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post May 15 2025, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(HumanExtinction @ May 15 2025, 05:30 PM)
I've sent over my resume. Already answered why the company attracts me etc. And they sent me back this bullshit process to fill in. Like what the actual fuck? asking you what do you do in your free time? What do I obsessed with? Oh and you will need do a test, just an hour so we can steal your ideas. It's not even a technical position. Are they high or something? I have never seen someone asked what's their previous boss shortcoming. I dont even have words anymore.

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what kind of job you apply that need to fill in all those bs?
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post May 15 2025, 08:36 PM

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what kind of job you apply that need to fill in all those bs?
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get in and sack the bugger that makes those questions
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post May 15 2025, 08:40 PM

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That makes you the supervisor then
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My friend told me some questions are probably traps
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post May 15 2025, 09:05 PM

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Confirm data farming la. I see the site ald 6 tracking content blocked by firefox youtube only got 3
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post May 15 2025, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(HumanExtinction @ May 15 2025, 06:02 PM)
just a normal tech company
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Lol. Not worth it then
QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 15 2025, 06:30 PM)
this is the state of our HR today
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Always like this

QUOTE(HumanExtinction @ May 15 2025, 06:41 PM)
marketing role
sigma school.., i have a few more also like this kind of pattern
https://sigmaschool.co/about-us#join-us
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Thanks. Avoided
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post May 15 2025, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(rtk73 @ May 15 2025, 09:31 PM)
Always like this
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i feel like it's getting worse as time goes by
they're literally milking more and more info from you to resell, asking more and more useless and pointless question which doesn't help on anything or even the job itself

they might not be hiring at all, just getting info from a lot of people to resell
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post May 16 2025, 12:02 AM

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TS how old are you?

just saying this phenomena is not new, chances to land on an interview let alone a job offer thesedays are much tougher compare to say pre-Covid years

with the layoffs here and there, and each year thousands of freshgrads flooded into the market, it is really employer's market now

this is the era of doing what shit also competitive af, even influencer the sponsor would evaluate you from various angles, gone were the days of the newbie benefits that occurred early 2010s, now IG and XHS algorithms are posing more challenges to content creators

now really wait for the world to reset itself, either coming from Russia or US or CCP or Bharat

really cannot brain what would be our next gen have to endure
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post May 16 2025, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ May 16 2025, 12:02 AM)
TS how old are you?

just saying this phenomena is not new, chances to land on an interview let alone a job offer thesedays are much tougher compare to say pre-Covid years

with the layoffs here and there, and each year thousands of freshgrads flooded into the market, it is really employer's market now

this is the era of doing what shit also competitive af, even influencer the sponsor would evaluate you from various angles, gone were the days of the newbie benefits that occurred early 2010s, now IG and XHS algorithms are posing more challenges to content creators

now really wait for the world to reset itself, either coming from Russia or US or CCP or Bharat

really cannot brain what would be our next gen have to endure
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Old enough. I know this phenomena is not new and just want to call out bullshit practices like this. Create an account, fill in all your work history which already been on the CV, fill in more useless info and in the end to either get ghosted or lowball. And company complaint NOBODY wants to work anymore.

We should not let them get away with bullshit practices like what this company show. It's not even the internet big Four or some prestige company like Apple, Amazon, or any famous tech company. It's a bloody local company. They just need someone desperate enough to fill all this and lowball the candidate wages to death. Imagine asking stupid question like where is your supervisor now and will you willing to arrange a call with the supervisor etc, just like what parisiansky said, they want to hire me or my supervisor?

What happened to a simple submit your cv, get a phone call, get interviewed and voila you get the job. Man I missed the good old time. Everyone should have a decent shot and a fair chance to get an interview and not be tortured by whatever this is. If its management level or super high pay then I still can understand. It's just a normal job with normal pay.

God i agree with you and hope the economy fucking crash or any reset coming to end of this bullshit. Fuck all of these greedy assholes and fuck capitalism.

This post has been edited by HumanExtinction: May 16 2025, 12:31 AM
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post May 16 2025, 12:34 AM

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Old enough. I know this phenomena is not new and just want to call out bullshit practices like this. Create an account, fill in all your work history which already been on the CV, fill in more useless info and in the end to either get ghosted or lowball. And company complaint NOBODY wants to work anymore.

We should not let them get away with bullshit practices like what this company show. It's not even the internet big Four or some prestige company like Apple, Amazon, or any famous tech company. It's a bloody local company. They just need someone desperate enough to fill all this and lowball the candidate wages to death. Imagine asking stupid question like where is your supervisor now and will you willing to arrange a call with the supervisor etc, just like what parisiansky said, they want to hire me or my supervisor?

What happened to a simple submit your cv, get a phone call, get interviewed and voila you get the job. Man I missed the good old time. Everyone should get a decent shot and a fair chance to get an interview and not be tortured by whatever this is. If its management level or super high pay then I still can understand. It's just a normal job with normal pay.

God i agree with you and hope the economy fucking crash or any reset coming to end of this bullshit. Fuck all of these greedy assholes and fuck capitalism.
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the side effects of AI bubble-ism

first they encouraged you to use AI to polish your CV, then they invent some mechanism to detect if you are using AI to assist you during the application, then they introduce even more steps to make sure you are "genuine" as in not to "rely" on AI in the process of getting a job

sounds LPPL

there's very less trust between the employee and employer now

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post May 16 2025, 12:45 AM

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the side effects of AI bubble-ism

first they encouraged you to use AI to polish your CV, then they invent some mechanism to detect if you are using AI to assist you during the application, then they introduce even more steps to make sure you are "genuine" as in not to "rely" on AI in the process of getting a job

sounds LPPL

there's very less trust between the employee and employer now
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AI is not the issue, the only issue is with these greedy corporation. Wanting infinite growth while keep having layoffs. I guess record profits every year are not enough huh. AI is supposed to make life and work easier but instead it is used as a weapon to threaten and torture employee.

Some of these are ghost jobs too. Jobs don't even exist and they're just there to make the company look like they're growing.

Employer: Nobody wants to work anymore!
Employee: I’m interested in that job and your company sounds great, here’s my CV and I have enough experience to handle the role.
Employer: Nobody qualified, experienced and affordable wants to work anymore!

This post has been edited by HumanExtinction: May 16 2025, 12:46 AM
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We have a process in place at our company to filter out applicants who aren’t genuinely interested in the position. For example, when we recently hired for an Account Manager role, we received around 78 applications and had to use this system to narrow it down to a shortlist of 10 candidates.

But I do agree the questions are a lot. My company we give two tasks only.
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you can do everything with AI, just with a bit of manual input here and there. for the video part, you can ask AI to write a script for you. try to memorize it a little, then jot down some key points and place them next to the camera. this way, you can speak in your own words while still having prompts to guide you.

supervisor part, just ask the AI how to respond appropriately. feed it the relevant details, and it can help draft your reply.

it might seem a bit tedious, but honestly, i don’t think it should take more than two hours.

edited: this is AI example for the intro vid:

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post May 16 2025, 01:39 AM

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how i hate having the need to take video as introduction
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post May 16 2025, 01:43 AM

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how i hate having the need to take video as introduction
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i don’t think anyone will really enjoy it, but to be honest, it kinda suits the position he’s aiming for, right? i mean, how can you do marketing for a company if you can’t even market yourself?
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i don’t think anyone will really enjoy it, but to be honest, it kinda suits the position he’s aiming for, right? i mean, how can you do marketing for a company if you can’t even market yourself?
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The only time that I will consider marketing myself is through an actual interview, face to face having a conversation with my potential future boss or colleagues. What a CV is not enough until the company needs to pull all these little stunts?

Or the company is really that busy until cannot arrange a 30 min interview with the candidate? Man stop defending these bullshit practices. Like what I said above, it’s a normal job not some high management executive position. If you don’t want me in the beginning you can just straight away decline me. The issue is that they saw my CV, email me back and said that they are interested in me and proceed to ask me to fill in all these shit. Why not just arrange an interview? They can’t even do the most basic thing which is putting an effort to have an actual conversation.

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QUOTE(HumanExtinction @ May 16 2025, 01:53 AM)
The only time that I will consider marketing myself is through an actual interview, face to face having a conversation with my potential future boss or colleagues. What a CV is not enough until the company needs to pull all these little stunts?

Or the company is really that busy until cannot arrange a 30 min interview with the candidate? Man stop defending these bullshit practices. Like what I said above, it’s a normal job not some high management executive position. If you don’t want me in the beginning you can just straight away decline me. The issue is that they saw my CV, email me back and said that they are interested in me and proceed to ask me to fill in all these shit. Why not just arrange an interview? They can’t even do the most basic thing which is putting an effort to have an actual conversation.
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i get your frustration and you know what? the employer probably saw it too. maybe that’s exactly why they set things up this way, to see how candidates handle pressure, uncertainty, or things not going their way. not every test is about skills; sometimes it’s about attitude.

try to see this as a test. do you think once you're hired, everything’s going to be smooth sailing? that every customer will always be nice, punctual, and reasonable?

so when things don’t go your way, is this how you’ll react? complaining, blaming others, and looking for validation from strangers online?

personally, i see all this negativity toward the company as an opportunity. fewer people willing to take it on means a better chance for me.

anyway, just my two cents. wishing you the best of luck!
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i get your frustration and you know what? the employer probably saw it too. maybe that’s exactly why they set things up this way, to see how candidates handle pressure, uncertainty, or things not going their way. not every test is about skills; sometimes it’s about attitude.

try to see this as a test. do you think once you're hired, everything’s going to be smooth sailing? that every customer will always be nice, punctual, and reasonable?

so when things don’t go your way, is this how you’ll react? complaining, blaming others, and looking for validation from strangers online?

personally, i see all this negativity toward the company as an opportunity. fewer people willing to take it on means a better chance for me.

anyway, just my two cents. wishing you the best of luck!
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I don’t think you understand what I try to express and everything you said is irrelevant to the situation here. This is not a fresh grad job nor it is a management level position. From the way I see you are no difference like what this company is trying to achieve, which is giving headache to the candidate.

You’re trying to shift the blame to me and act like I was the problem. It is true that they have the right to set up this type of process to filter out people but I also have the right to complaint and outright reject this type of practices. No need to guilt trip me as I have worked many roles before especially in the customer service department and I know what stress is.

You mentioned that
“they set things up this way, to see how candidates handle pressure, uncertainty, or things not going their way”

Let me ask you this, does questions they asked like (where is your supervisor now, would you be willing to arrange for us to talk with him/her, What is your best guess as to what that supervisor really felt at that time were your strengths and weaker points?) have anything to do with “how candidates handle pressure, uncertainty, or things not going their way“? Completely irrelevant. And as for the questions they ask up on top, they can ask during the interview as well. If they really want to see how candidates handle pressure, it should be during the interview itself. How does filling up pointless question have anything to do with how I handle pressure? Like what you suggested earlier, if I really wanted the job I can just use AI to fill in everything, where’s the pressure in that?

And how can you determine someone’s attitude online, moreover filling in all these useless question when you don’t even give candidate a chance to have an actual conversation with you?

I don’t think you know what you’re talking about but anyway I wish you all the best and pray that you or your future generation don’t have to face this kind of issue during job hunting smile.gif

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I don’t think you understand what I try to express and everything you said is irrelevant to the situation here. This is not a fresh grad job nor it is a management level position. From the way I see you are no difference like what this company is trying to achieve, which is giving headache to the candidate.

You’re trying to shift the blame to me and act like I was the problem. It is true that they have the right to set up this type of process to filter out people but I also have the right to complaint and outright reject this type of practices. No need to guilt trip me as I have worked many roles before especially in the customer service department and I know what stress is.

You mentioned that
“they set things up this way, to see how candidates handle pressure, uncertainty, or things not going their way”

Let me ask you this, does questions they asked like (where is your supervisor now, would you be willing to arrange for us to talk with him/her, What is your best guess as to what that supervisor really felt at that time were your strengths and weaker points?) have anything to do with “how candidates handle pressure, uncertainty, or things not going their way“? Completely irrelevant. And as for the questions they ask up on top, they can ask during the interview as well. If they really want to see how candidates handle pressure, it should be during the interview itself. How does filling up pointless question have anything to do with how I handle pressure? Like what you suggested earlier, if I really wanted the job I could use AI to fill in everything, where’s the pressure in that?

And how can you determine someone’s attitude online, moreover  filling in all these useless question when you don’t even give candidate a chance to have an actual conversation with you?

I don’t think you know what you’re talking about but anyway I wish you all the best and pray that you or your future generation don’t have to face this kind of issue during job hunting smile.gif
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have you ever met a tricky client who, before you even start your presentation, immediately asks, “so, what are your company’s weaknesses?” how would you handle that in real time when you can’t even figure it out now with all the time in the world?

or when a client insists on doing things their way, even if it’s totally out of the norm, are you just going to tell them: i set the rules.

from my first reply here, all i’ve been trying to do is help or maybe shift your perspective a little, for your own benefit. but if that’s not appreciated, i get it. not everyone thinks the same way, and that’s fair.

which approach is more beneficial in the long run? that’s debatable. but i always try not to blame the situation. instead, i ask myself what can i learn from this? and more importantly, how can i come out of it better? that’s the part i can control, so that’s where i choose to take charge, instead of stressing over what i can’t.
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