Hi, after joining and quitting many jobs (8-9 jobs) and jobless for 2 years i landed my self an office job (management role). Everyone is awesome including the boss, there are many many things to learn and i even admit i need time to learn all the stuff. Everyone is super chill about it but i have trouble focusing when i am being taught.


I am only 6 days into my new job and in probation, work hours is 8-5pm. I started last week monday and havent rest since then. My rest day is determined this Sunday. I usually sleep around 11pm night and wake up next morning feel like not enough rest.

I am heavily in debt from borrowing money from others and my house rent hutang is building up too. Next month i am requested to travel to another state for training but it worries me because that means my current rent house will be empty (no-one living for the next 3-6 months).

The 2 years of jobless is caused by my work burn out + family divorce issue. It made me lost my job and blamed myself everyday. I seek mental help from a psychiatrist and i got diagnosed with MDD. I am sorry that i have to use mental health / issues as an exccuse.


I feel extremely bad and regret if i were to resign myself because my colleague and the boss put high expectations and are they also glad i joined the team.


What should i do my fellow Malaysians, who are in the workforce?

Put on your big girl pants and suck it up bro

Sufficient sleep is very important for good health and performance during work. Try sleeping earlier with one hour of no-screen before sleep.

Magnesium related supplement is also known to improve sleep. U have to trial and error until you found what works for you. That's the same for work too(start by small changes then if no use only go bigger measure ie switch job).

Someone once said, if you eat well, everything starts to fall in place nicely. Have you been eating well or bad eating habits? Malaysian diet isn’t the best in the world. Try fixing what you eat , drink and see if it makes a difference. By eating properly (and the right amount) you may not feel as lethargic and tired. It’s easier said than done but give it a try.

i havent been eating well, i am losing weight currently due to not eating enough, ever since day 1 of this job. i dont have appetite in the morning and afternoon. i feel tired when i wake up in the morning and dont have energy to even sit down and eat breakfast.

lunch break 12pm noon go out no mood eat, feel tired lack motivation. also very anxious because im not doing a good job.

go home 5pm inside no energy already.

2molo repeat again.

bank only have rm200 for this entire month, i dont want to borrow / lend money from others anymore, i cannot increase debts

Don’t give up. Everyone has problems in life. Speak to people or seek professional help. You are not alone

See a doctor

Get help

since you have MDD, are you taking medicine? Feelling tired, no energy, lack of desire, no appetite are all sympton of depression.

I also have depression and anxiety disorder, still under medication.

You need to identify the trigger, for me is financial burden, I think you also have the same.

I am not sure how are you going to survive with that RM200 without borrowing. But I can suggest you what you can do on depression part.

1. When you wake up, think of 20 things you can be grateful of, write it down.

2. Acceptance of what is happening.

3. Do meditation if your religion allow, it will help stay focus.

4. take medication.

5. accept your weakness and your dark side

bro, count your blessing, aint easy to get a job again after 2 yrs jobless
PS: idk if you're taking effort to find job though

You need better health.

Sleep more
Exercise more
Eat better food. If you’re trying to save, eggs is the answer. When I avoid red meat if possible so sometimes I eat 5-6 eggs a day. Don’t worry about the cholesterol. Remove all processed and sugared food

I think leaving your current job is going to addon further burden to your financial woes, no? Since your boss and colleagues are good so far, seems like they're reasonable people.

Although you mention 8am-5pm is your work hours, how late do you work? I suggest sleeping even earlier (ie. 10pm) if you're worn out from the day's work.

If you have been working late everyday due to huge workload and stress, discuss with your superior on the problems you're facing and see if there's anything he can do about it. Sometimes they can be flexible and make certain arrangement to ease you until you're more used to the work assigned. By simply resigning without talking to your superior is not a good idea (unless he/ she is a terrible person).

To be honest, it doesn't matter if you feel you're not "living up to their expectation" because everyone takes time to adapt and adjust especially in the first 3-6 months. It's a new environment and new work processes and they will understand it. So I suggest not give up so soon and give it another try after talking to your superior and see how things goes. The job market isn't too stable right now, so don't make rash decision unless you've secured another better opportunity elsewhere.

Just my 2 cents worth of opinion. Sorry to hear what you went through previously, but don't let it get to you. Find ways to stand up again and rebuild your life step-by-step. There's a lot more the world has to offer than gloom and doom. You just need to meet the right people to point you the right direction and show you some hope.

You need to seek help from people close to you. Your friends or family makes a lot fo difference. That's the only way to break out of it.

Seems like your expectation and anticipation towards yourself is very high, understand that you have jobless for 2 years. but don't push yourself too much, a reasonable rest and break could bring you longer journey and resulting better outcome.
Stay strong.

after 6pm no coffee, magnesium, exercise, before 11pm sleep, divert your attention something like hobby, cold water bath

Exercise for at least 3 hours daily. I do this regularly on the weekdays whenever I'm hitting the road to drive back from KL.

It sounds daunting, but trust me, go out and walk, and start to run from time to time and just sweat it out. You'll feel so much better and livid in mood, mind focus, as well as others. Your face will sort of brighten up soon enough.

Next, take Magnesium supplement. It helps for sleep. I do take it. Not promoting / affiliated with anything, but the mineral brand I'm taking is VITAScience Magnesium 150mg.

Also, please do not just take the supplement without exercising... Do both.

This post has been edited by Hastebreak: Apr 20 2025, 01:20 AM

How can a person be jobless for 2 years and still have work burn out 6 days into the job?

Im sorry but you’re soft. Many people have it rougher than you. Many people have undiagnosed depression, and still soldier on.

You’re not alone, be grateful for what you have. Dont give up easily and then regret losing everything.

Hey there. It sounds like you're carrying a heavy load right now, and it takes courage to share all of that. It's completely understandable that you're feeling overwhelmed with the new job, the debt, the upcoming travel, and the echoes of the past two challenging years. You're not making excuses by mentioning your mental health; it's a significant part of your experience and impacts how you're feeling.

Let's break things down and see if we can find some helpful paths forward:

Regarding your difficulty focusing during training:
Be open with your boss (to a degree): Since they seem chill, you could say something like, "I'm really excited to learn everything, and I'm finding there's a lot of information to absorb. To make sure I grasp it well, could we try [suggest a specific learning style that works for you, e.g., hands-on practice after explanation, written notes I can refer to, breaking down tasks into smaller steps]?" You don't need to disclose your MDD unless you feel comfortable and it's relevant to the conversation.
Take active notes: Even if you struggle to focus while someone is talking, the act of writing things down can help engage your brain and give you something to refer back to.
Ask clarifying questions: Don't be afraid to ask "Can you explain that again?" or "Just to be sure I understand..." It's better to clarify now than to make mistakes later.
Break down learning sessions: If possible, see if training can be broken into shorter chunks with breaks in between.
Prioritize sleep: You mentioned not feeling rested. Even though your rest day is Sunday, try to implement small changes during the week. Can you wind down earlier? Create a more relaxing bedtime routine? Even an extra 30 minutes of quality sleep can make a difference.


Addressing your debt and rent:
Prioritize and strategize: Make a clear list of all your debts, including the amounts and who you owe. Then, create a realistic budget of your income and expenses. Identify areas where you can cut back temporarily to allocate more towards debt repayment.
Communicate (where appropriate): For your house rent, could you have an honest conversation with your landlord? Explain your upcoming travel for work and see if there's any temporary arrangement possible, even if it's just delaying a payment slightly or finding a short-term subletter (though this might be difficult for 3-6 months).
Explore debt management options: Look into resources available in Malaysia for debt counseling or management. Agencies like AKPK (Agensi Kaunseling dan Pengurusan Kredit) can provide free advice and help you create a debt repayment plan.
Regarding the empty house during training: This is a valid worry. Could a trusted friend or family member stay there temporarily, even if it's just for a few weeks, to give the appearance of occupancy? Alternatively, explore if your landlord would be open to a short-term lease break or a reduced rent during your absence, though this might be a long shot.


Navigating the upcoming out-of-state training:
Focus on the opportunity: Try to reframe the training as a chance for growth and skill development, which can ultimately benefit your career and financial situation.
Logistics planning: Once you have more details about the training location and duration, start planning the logistics. This might include transportation, accommodation during training, and how you'll manage your belongings back home.
Communicate with your boss: Discuss any concerns you have about the duration of the training and its impact on your current living situation. They might have suggestions or support available.


Dealing with the past and your mental health:
Continue seeking professional help: It's commendable that you sought help for your MDD. Continue your therapy and medication as prescribed. Consistent mental health support is crucial, especially during times of stress.
Practice self-compassion: You've been through a lot. Try to be kind and understanding towards yourself. The past doesn't define your future, and you're taking positive steps by working again.
Focus on the present: While it's important to acknowledge your past experiences, try to focus your energy on what you can control in the present – learning your new job, managing your finances, and taking care of your well-being.


Celebrate small wins: Acknowledge your progress, no matter how small it seems. You landed a management role, and your colleagues and boss appreciate you. That's a significant achievement!
Regarding the fear of disappointing your colleagues and boss:


Their positive feedback is genuine: Try to trust their assessment of you. They see your potential and are happy to have you on the team.
Growth takes time: Everyone understands that you're new and have a learning curve. It's okay not to know everything immediately. Your willingness to learn and your positive attitude likely contribute to their high expectations.
Honest effort is what matters: As long as you are putting in your best effort and showing a willingness to learn and contribute, that's what truly counts.
In summary, here's a possible action plan:

Prioritize your well-being: Make small but consistent efforts to improve your sleep. Continue your mental health treatment.


Financial clarity: List all debts, create a budget, and explore debt management options like AKPK. Communicate with your landlord about your situation.


Workplace strategies: Communicate your learning needs to your boss, take active notes, ask questions, and break down learning.


Training logistics: Gather details about the out-of-state training and plan accordingly. Discuss any major concerns with your boss.


Self-compassion: Be kind to yourself and acknowledge your progress. Focus on the present and what you can control.


It's a lot to handle, but remember that you don't have to solve everything at once. Take things one step at a time. Lean on the support systems you have, whether it's your mental health professional, understanding colleagues, or potential financial advisors. You've shown resilience by navigating a difficult period and landing this new job.

This post has been edited by coyouth: Apr 25 2025, 04:23 PM

TS, looks like you are not ready for the real deal.

You are still mentally unsteady.

But I tell you, you are damn lucky to get a job, after 2 years being jobless and changed job 8-9 times with each just lasting 1 year or so.

I say you better treasure this job.

Charlie Munger used to say, when people are faced with the toughest situation, they somehow find the power to face the adversity and fight it and conquer it.

I seriously don't know how you going to overcome, but if you screw it this time, you may not be so lucky the next as economy turmoil is already here with the tariff war.

Not enough sleep can cause sudden death, take care