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 Proton x70 2025 Vibration UPDATE#4, Advise Please thanks

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jojolicia
post Dec 11 2024, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Dec 11 2024, 12:34 PM)
Perhaps something was very wrong with this car from the very begining already. If only you had put your foot down and not accepted the car as urged by the sales personnel until they had rectified everything then only signing the DO. That begs the question, if it's a new vehicle hot off the production floor, why then is rectification necessary ? If rectification is necessary, then production workflow has to be rearranged correct ? But are other X70s facing similar issues ? No. That is why Pre-Delivery Inspection is so important and it has to be done in your terms, not the sales personnel instigating don't worry the service dept will take care of it. For me, I only do Pre-registration inspection. I don't accept PDI crap bullshit.
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Bolded. This is good advice.
Thanks bro for the head up.

I never thought of this all these years. Dumb me

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post Dec 11 2024, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Dec 11 2024, 12:43 PM)
Bolded. This is good advice.
Thanks bro for the head up.

I never thought of this all these years. Dumb me
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post Dec 11 2024, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Dec 11 2024, 12:46 PM)
It is not going to be easy because many will turn you down but if you know your way around things, it's possible to get it done.
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Noted. I read you.
Shouldn't be a problem because I normally deal with a recurring person, pi mai tang tu few makes only

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post Dec 11 2024, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Dec 11 2024, 12:34 PM)
Perhaps something was very wrong with this car from the very begining already. If only you had put your foot down and not accepted the car as urged by the sales personnel until they had rectified everything then only signing the DO. That begs the question, if it's a new vehicle hot off the production floor, why then is rectification necessary ? If rectification is necessary, then production workflow has to be rearranged correct ? But are other X70s facing similar issues ? No. That is why Pre-Delivery Inspection is so important and it has to be done in your terms, not the sales personnel instigating don't worry the service dept will take care of it. For me, I only do Pre-registration inspection. I don't accept PDI crap bullshit.
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Really regret and overlook at this important step. But sometime the car problem won’t be realised until we drive for at least a period of time and get the feel of it. Malaysia is so weak in lemon law and the period of us to report the problem should be at least 3-7 days. Even we buy stuff from Shopee or Lazada also is being covered, but buying 100k car is like playing with luck..


QUOTE(prdkancil @ Dec 11 2024, 12:38 PM)
I think maybe ABS pump .
My car kena b4 , it only happen occasionally and hard to simulate it . Ask them check with the  OBD computer scanner c got any error on the ABS system ornot .
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They refuse to do any further check as per SOP, no problem being shown on the spot = can’t check further. What a joke. They said they’re service 50-60 cars per day.
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post Dec 11 2024, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Dec 11 2024, 12:46 PM)
It is not going to be easy because many will turn you down but if you know your way around things, it's possible to get it done.
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Well said!
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post Dec 11 2024, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Dec 11 2024, 12:51 PM)
Really regret and overlook at this important step. But sometime the car problem won’t be realised until we drive for at least a period of time and get the feel of it. Malaysia is so weak in lemon law and the period of us to report the problem should be at least 3-7 days. Even we buy stuff from Shopee or Lazada also is being covered, but buying 100k car is like playing with luck..
They refuse to do any further check as per SOP, no problem being shown on the spot = can’t check further. What a joke. They said they’re service 50-60 cars per day.
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Join x70 group in fb / whatapps group , ask members intro reputable workshop and ask them scan / check only .
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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Dec 11 2024, 12:51 PM)
Really regret and overlook at this important step. But sometime the car problem won’t be realised until we drive for at least a period of time and get the feel of it. Malaysia is so weak in lemon law and the period of us to report the problem should be at least 3-7 days. Even we buy stuff from Shopee or Lazada also is being covered, but buying 100k car is like playing with luck..
They refuse to do any further check as per SOP, no problem being shown on the spot = can’t check further. What a joke. They said they’re service 50-60 cars per day.
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Although there is no Lemon Law, the existing law is sufficient too to give you victory. Just that you will need to speak to a lawyer on how to go about building your case.
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post Dec 11 2024, 12:57 PM

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SC problem

Find another SC
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post Dec 11 2024, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(prdkancil @ Dec 11 2024, 12:55 PM)
Join x70 group in fb / whatapps group , ask members intro reputable workshop and ask them scan  / check only .
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X70 group that has 104k members not allow me to post my problem. They just delete my post eventually.

Previously before buy I ask owner for their views on the car also happened same thing, they delete my post.

No negative post is allows there..

I’m from east Malaysia so the choices of reliable workshop is limited
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post Dec 11 2024, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Dec 11 2024, 12:56 PM)
Although there is no Lemon Law, the existing law is sufficient too to give you victory. Just that you will need to speak to a lawyer on how to go about building your case.
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I’m just a normal person that just earn sufficient enough for my family.

Don’t have big money to hire lawyer unfortunately
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post Dec 11 2024, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(GagalLand @ Dec 11 2024, 12:57 PM)
SC problem

Find another SC
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I have went to two service centres 4s and 3s. Both can’t rectify the problem.

Those two are the famous one in my town.

I located in east Malaysia Sabah..
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post Dec 11 2024, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Dec 11 2024, 01:00 PM)
X70 group that has 104k members not allow me to post my problem. They just delete my post eventually.

Previously before buy I ask owner for their views on the car also happened same thing, they delete my post.

No negative post is allows there..

I’m from east Malaysia so the choices of reliable workshop is limited
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Wtf dont allow negative post , that admin of the page shd be staff from proton shakehead.gif
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post Dec 11 2024, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(prdkancil @ Dec 11 2024, 01:04 PM)
Wtf dont allow negative post , that admin of the page shd be staff from proton  shakehead.gif
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In the beginning, I thought because the way I asked for problem. I ask like the following:

Any proton x70 owner can help to list down the problem that they have and what stuffs that they have claimed before?

Then I got a comment saying that who the F are you? Why want to ask such thing? Then my post get deleted.

I proceed to buy x70 and then my car got problem. I post at there saying my x70 just few days old but having issue of vibration. They not allow the post as well/

Now brake got issue, I mentioned sc not helpful also kena reject..

Yet the group has 100k+ members..
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QUOTE(prdkancil @ Dec 11 2024, 01:04 PM)
Wtf dont allow negative post , that admin of the page shd be staff from proton  shakehead.gif
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Not independent, very dangerous to join such groups, who goal is to conceal the truth and mislead others.
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post Dec 11 2024, 01:33 PM

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That's why need to buy 2.. I for spare parts. 1 forndrive
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post Dec 11 2024, 01:44 PM

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hello, i had brake peddle sink to floor on my old x5 before.

i also didnt know why

took to sc they checked log and it was the aeb braking the car because it thought i was going to hit the car in front, even though foot was on break, it sunk to bottom
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post Dec 11 2024, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Dec 11 2024, 01:00 PM)
X70 group that has 104k members not allow me to post my problem. They just delete my post eventually.

Previously before buy I ask owner for their views on the car also happened same thing, they delete my post.

No negative post is allows there..

I’m from east Malaysia so the choices of reliable workshop is limited
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Sabah have good sc?
Base on what I heard, most of the SC there is terrible, especially for owners with higher end model that comes with a lot of complicated electronic.

SC there is just not prepared to service/maintain these type of vehicle.

So when comes to sc, I expect the same situation happen for proton higher end model...

Source: flen that live in Sabah and own some kind of european brand car...
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post Dec 11 2024, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Dec 11 2024, 01:15 PM)
Not independent, very dangerous to join such groups, who goal is to conceal the truth and mislead others.
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True.. I joined the other smaller group of x70 is much better and the peoples there are helpful just like here.

QUOTE(ukiya21 @ Dec 11 2024, 01:33 PM)
That's why need to buy 2.. I for spare parts. 1 forndrive
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Hmmm.. How I wish I am that rich

QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Dec 11 2024, 01:44 PM)
hello, i had brake peddle sink to floor on my old x5 before.

i also didnt know why

took to sc they checked log and it was the aeb braking the car because it thought i was going to hit the car in front, even though foot was on break, it sunk to bottom
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Thanks for your sharing bro!

But unfortunately my model is executive one so it does not come with those safety feature like AEB.

I asked them to do further checking but they not even bother to do anything except visual inspect the rotor.

Hopeless on them.

QUOTE(sammm33 @ Dec 11 2024, 02:48 PM)
Sabah have good sc?
Base on what I heard, most of the SC there is terrible, especially for owners with higher end model that comes with a lot of complicated electronic.

SC there is just not prepared to service/maintain these type of vehicle.

So when comes to sc, I expect the same situation happen for proton higher end model...

Source: flen that live in Sabah and own some kind of european brand car...
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Sadly, your friend is saying the truth though.

The main foreman that diagnose the problem use the spanner to hammer my brake rotor part, knock here and there and just ask his man to unscrew and screw the thing. They not even dianogse any code or worse they said those things sometime can just drive and ignore, as long as able to drive.

Rather sad to stuck with this kind of sc.

I don't choose recond because want to heave peace of mind. who knows brand new proton that cost 100k+ give so much of headache as well.
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post Dec 11 2024, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Dec 11 2024, 04:24 PM)
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I asked them to do further checking but they not even bother to do anything except visual inspect the rotor.

Hopeless on them.
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Sadly, your friend is saying the truth though.

The main foreman that diagnose the problem use the spanner to hammer my brake rotor part, knock here and there and just ask his man to unscrew and screw the thing. They not even dianogse any code or worse they said those things sometime can just drive and ignore, as long as able to drive.

Rather sad to stuck with this kind of sc.

I don't choose recond because want to heave peace of mind. who knows brand new proton that cost 100k+ give so much of headache as well.
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yes, either they do not have the required tool/computer/hardware to perform diagnose.

or

they have the tool/computer/hardware, but the foreman is not equipped with enough knowledge/experience to use it.

was there this september, rent a motorcycle in kk, and travel from kk > kudat > ranau > tenom > kk.
manage to meet up with some of my old friend during my trip , and heard stories bout maintain their car...

there's a reason why in sabah, most of the vehicle is Landcruiser or hilux/double cab.
you might have an easier time finding people fixing these vehicle than your x70...

i assume you go for the executive 4wd,
cuz holy shet, the road condition over there is really bad.

anyhow , all the best in fixing your new baby,
will share here if i manage to get any info regarding good sc for x70 in sabah.


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QUOTE(sammm33 @ Dec 11 2024, 04:54 PM)
yes, either they do not have the required tool/computer/hardware to perform diagnose.

or

they have the tool/computer/hardware, but the foreman is not equipped with enough knowledge/experience to use it.

was there this september, rent a motorcycle in kk, and travel from kk > kudat > ranau > tenom > kk.
manage to meet up with some of my old friend during my trip , and heard stories bout maintain their car...

there's a reason why in sabah, most of the vehicle is Landcruiser or hilux/double cab.
you might have an easier time finding people fixing these vehicle than your x70...

i assume you go for the executive 4wd,
cuz holy shet, the road condition over there is really bad.

anyhow , all the best in fixing your new baby,
will share here if i manage to get any info regarding good sc for x70 in sabah.
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Trying to diagnose what is wrong within a CAN Bus system of a vehicle is like trying to find a needle in a haystàck. At this juncture I am not even sure that technicians at SC even have the complete wiring diagrams of the customers vehicles that they are working on. Heck, I don't even understand what the hell that I am trying to diagnose, macam kanak kanak baru masok tadika wei !

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