they have written black and white documents with targets that u need to meet during the PIP, and even if u meet them, they still can fire u off actually and say u didnt meet the target, PIP is just a formality and to protect the company in case the employee sue the company for unfair dismissal

and yes its one of the ways for the bosses to kenakan employees that they dont like or have beef with, last time my ex company 1 staff kena, he was star performer in his team for many quarters and even won award in the company as a star performer, then one day his team change manager and the new manager didnt like him, and put him in PIP to force him out, end up he resigned also

Define performance metric within 1 or 2 quarter

Like picking up specific skillet or deliverable within certain period of time

If that boss really target you .in the description he can add some vague and arguable expectation to hailat you

HR usually will side manager..unless HR feel like manager action might lead to potential legal issue

is PIP a new thang in corporate world?

i've left corporate life since 2010 lol..

TS, if you PIP means they gonna get rid of you.

Start looking for another job.

https://dnh.com.my/case-spotlight-performan...n-pip-pitfalls/

this?

You retired since 2010 or become boss?

Do all MNCs Performance Improvement Plan have these three outcomes?

1) Terminate the employee

2) Extend the PIP

3) Discontinue the program (meaning the employee has passed and their performance has improved)
Third outcome cannot happen?

Can, but very few gets out.

PIP is generally last resort, for company to terminate an employee while not risk any constructive dismissal, they have to show the person has really failed to perform.

If you screw up one time or whatnot, your boss usually will just talk to you and sort it out right. PIP comes in when all has failed and they want to get rid, so they will come up with a really hard target to meet (but not impossible) and likelihood if the person can't do their normal job well, they won't perform this harder target.

a bit out topic
but just to give another prospective

You think most ppl in corporate are capable or qualified for their job?

Leaving corporate is the best decision I ever made
(although left the 5 fig paycheck behind)

I'm lucky as I explored
wht I interested to do
wht I good at
wht I capable to do

years before I left the company
and never looked back

a bit out topic
but just to give another prospective

You think most ppl in corporate are capable or qualified for their job?

Leaving corporate is the best decision I ever made
(although left the 5 fig paycheck behind)

I'm lucky as I explored
wht I interested to do
wht I good at
wht I capable to do

years before I left the company
and never looked back

a bit out topic
but just to give another prospective

You think most ppl in corporate are capable or qualified for their job?

Leaving corporate is the best decision I ever made
(although left the 5 fig paycheck behind)

I'm lucky as I explored
wht I interested to do
wht I good at
wht I capable to do

years before I left the company
and never looked back

3 stage, 3 substage for each

Stage X
- substage 1 - set improvement plan
- substage 2 - monitoring
- substage 3 - evaluation - continue with next stage (still problematic) or exit the system (improved)

each stage last for 3 months, so employee have 9 months to improve

in last stage, Stage 3, if still problematic, the employee will received surat dinasihatkan berhenti

No counseling stage first?

Many companies only have Stage 1 for 3 months.
Stage 2 happens at the same time as Stage 1.

I think Stage 3 is just 1 day, which is 3 months later.
If the company issues a letter advising the employee to resign, I believe this act constitutes a violation of labor law.

Same sector?

When there is pip, there is no violation of law.

And for me there is no counseling stage. If I want to get an idiot out of my team, I just issue him pip and for sure he will be gone. No way he can meet the expectations I set. Been there, done that. That's the power of pip.

Different 🙂