Pip = sure win method to kick u out without legal consequences.
Singapore company PIP, MAXIS CASE COMPARE
Singapore company PIP, MAXIS CASE COMPARE
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Aug 30 2024, 03:44 PM
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Pip = sure win method to kick u out without legal consequences.
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Aug 30 2024, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(buysellaccount @ Aug 30 2024, 03:35 PM) no severance package, they will just serve you notice to terminate you, either pay you the notice period in liu or force you to work till last day, handling over etc.life will be difficult like hell for you. management will be damn happy because you are not able to sue them for unjust dismissal, unless you can proof the PIP is done in unjust method. many of the PIP targets set on you, they will ask you to sign and accept in black and white, very difficult to dispute. This post has been edited by matrix88: Aug 30 2024, 03:59 PM |
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Aug 30 2024, 04:04 PM
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usually PIP mean you already f*ck up.
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Aug 30 2024, 04:13 PM
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find new job liao, usually only like 5% of ppl will survive PIP, because the management will make it impossibly hard to complete the PIP if u kena PIP, means your company already want to fire u ledi, they already 'given up' on you |
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Aug 30 2024, 04:23 PM
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I never kena PIP. But my year end KPI very low. So end up im resigned and now im join gov. Salary not high but secure with pencen
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Aug 30 2024, 04:30 PM
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Aug 30 2024, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Aug 30 2024, 04:13 PM) find new job liao, usually only like 5% of ppl will survive PIP, because the management will make it impossibly hard to complete the PIP The survivor 5 percent can pass the target set by management?if u kena PIP, means your company already want to fire u ledi, they already 'given up' on you |
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Aug 30 2024, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Aug 30 2024, 03:57 PM) no severance package, they will just serve you notice to terminate you, either pay you the notice period in liu or force you to work till last day, handling over etc. Now no need to sign one.life will be difficult like hell for you. management will be damn happy because you are not able to sue them for unjust dismissal, unless you can proof the PIP is done in unjust method. many of the PIP targets set on you, they will ask you to sign and accept in black and white, very difficult to dispute. They thought they are banking industry...... You received bank letter before then you will know Management will just send it to your email inbox, and you will be considered to have acknowledged it even if you do not click to open and read it. This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Aug 30 2024, 06:22 PM |
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Aug 30 2024, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Aug 30 2024, 02:57 PM) usually dont need warning to go into PIP Now no need to sign the PIP?and very often when people get PIP, they are almost sure to be terminated, many will start looking for job and leave even before PIP is complete. rarely people come out of PIP scratchless, unless it is for wayang type, where there is a certain percentage of people that needs to go thru (bell curve) thing. Now They thought they are banking industry...... You received bank letter before then you will know.... Management will just send it to your email inbox, and you will be considered to have acknowledged it even if you do not click to open and read it. This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Aug 30 2024, 06:22 PM |
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Aug 30 2024, 06:16 PM
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Aug 30 2024, 06:19 PM
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My manager had his PIP redacted after he fought back with local HR. His KPI is above average each year, good client review, no official warning was ever given, and its more toward new management personal beef with the previous management team member. All the reasoning to get him into PIP were not related to his job scope. Just dont sign the PIP if you think its not justifiable. Quazacolt and amboi_asamboi liked this post
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Aug 30 2024, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(faridr @ Aug 30 2024, 06:19 PM) My manager had his PIP redacted after he fought back with local HR. Now some MNC management thought they are banking industry......His KPI is above average each year, good client review, no official warning was ever given, and its more toward new management personal beef with the previous management team member. All the reasoning to get him into PIP were not related to his job scope. Just dont sign the PIP if you think its not justifiable. You received bank letter before then you will know.... Management will just send it to your email inbox, and you will be considered to have acknowledged it even if you do not click to open and read it. |
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Aug 30 2024, 06:34 PM
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PIP = company wants to legally terminate an employee
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Aug 30 2024, 06:35 PM
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Aug 30 2024, 06:37 PM
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Aug 30 2024, 06:39 PM
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Aug 30 2024, 06:40 PM
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Aug 30 2024, 08:25 PM
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Aug 30 2024, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(7up @ Aug 30 2024, 03:36 PM) TrueIt is just a polite way of saying This job not fit you, you are too lazy to work, you are just lazy, you are sux in so many level and you just wouldn't admit it Apply any one of it. Go find new job No free meail, no iron bowl. Work hard and keep learning new things This post has been edited by taitianhin: Aug 30 2024, 08:31 PM |
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Aug 30 2024, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Aug 30 2024, 06:21 PM) Now some MNC management thought they are banking industry...... Well, you will still need to sign it, without your signature, they cant put you under PIP. But only applicable to MNC.You received bank letter before then you will know.... Management will just send it to your email inbox, and you will be considered to have acknowledged it even if you do not click to open and read it. |
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