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post Aug 31 2024, 12:29 PM

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U nvr heard those startup DTI plan

Do the impossible

Improvement is childplay
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post Aug 31 2024, 12:29 PM

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Years ago my manager without leadership skills put me under PIP with a view to kick me out. None of my colleagues wanted to take over my unfavorable jobs. So I was tacitly & quietly removed from the PIP.
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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Aug 31 2024, 12:29 PM)
Naive n strawberries
U nvr heard those startup DTI plan

Do the impossible

Improvement is childplay
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May you explain more ?
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post Aug 31 2024, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Aug 31 2024, 12:35 PM)
May you explain more ?
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Improvement is based on personal scale
Do better compare last year

DtI

Do something no1 achieved b4
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post Aug 31 2024, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Aug 31 2024, 12:27 PM)
Almost 2 years only.......

"I wonder if they are doing this crazy thing because they need to pay my CPF contributions. My basic salary is quite high compared to those other staff with work permits from Malaysia/other nations in the same company.
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I doubt cpf being the reason la.

Are you being seen as a non team player or a road block or you seen giving bad influence to others in the team by someone above in your line of work?

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post Aug 31 2024, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Aug 31 2024, 12:23 PM)
Lets say u work there for 5 years, u should entitled minimum like 5 months + (X) months notice period. Some company just ask u to leave after pay u MSS/VSS of 5 months + notice period (usually 3 months) on that day, some company will pay the 5 months after u finished the notice period
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This notice period is not only for staff who want to resign but also for the termination notice period, which requires staff to stay longer ?
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post Aug 31 2024, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Aug 31 2024, 12:46 PM)
I doubt cpf being the reason la.

Are you being seen as a non team player or a road block or you seen giving bad influence to others in the team by someone above in your line of work?
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So, has your company or have you heard from friends that people might receive a PIP letter from company after getting Singapore PR status?



I’m ok in my shift team.





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post Aug 31 2024, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Aug 31 2024, 12:59 PM)
So, has your company or have you heard from friends that people might receive a PIP letter from company after getting Singapore PR status?

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No, never heard of. Myself 2+ decades of work so far I only applied PIP for reasons I mentioned in my earlier post. One now currently under warning for timeline issue.
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post Aug 31 2024, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Aug 31 2024, 01:28 PM)
No, never heard of. Myself 2+ decades of work so far I only applied PIP for reasons I mentioned in my earlier post. One now currently under warning for timeline issue.
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Do Your company Performance Improvement Plan have these three outcomes?

1) Terminate the employee

2) Extend the PIP

3) Discontinue the program (meaning the employee has passed and their performance has improved)

And the email will not state these 3 outcomes right?


Recently my company cut cost,control OT,.....



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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Aug 31 2024, 01:47 PM)
Do Your company Performance Improvement Plan have these three outcomes?

1) Terminate the employee

2) Extend the PIP

3) Discontinue the program (meaning the employee has passed and their performance has improved)

And the email will not state these 3 outcomes right?
Recently my company cut cost,control OT,.....
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Both resigned upon enrollment of program. 1st on  month 1, 2nd on  month 2

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Some PIP is for show, i have a couple useless members in my team, doing nothing, make mistakes and waiting ppl to wipe their ass

my team lead tell me he did everything he can, complaint to hr, complaint to big boss, put them pip but in the end ntg changes
team lead even told me the only thing he didnt do is fired them, u want me to fired them? he told me, useless lead POS

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Aug 31 2024, 12:27 PM)
Almost 2 years only.......

"I wonder if they are doing this crazy thing because they need to pay my CPF contributions. My basic salary is quite high compared to those other staff with work permits from Malaysia/other nations in the same company.
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Oh then you are in deep shit bro since you are Malaysian in Singapore. They probably want to reduce staff from Malaysian already
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post Aug 31 2024, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Aug 31 2024, 03:15 PM)
Oh then you are in deep shit bro since you are Malaysian in Singapore. They probably want to reduce staff from Malaysian already
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They make such a big deal out of that little bit of CPF contribution... Isn't it just a small amount of money?



You work at sg also?

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Aug 31 2024, 03:49 PM)
They make such a big deal out of that little bit of CPF contribution... Isn't it just a small amount of money?
You work at sg also?
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Nope unfortunately
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post Sep 1 2024, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(fourzee @ Aug 30 2024, 02:50 PM)
in simple term -- Big Brother is watching you -- Kim Bang Non style
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Has any staff successfully passed the 3-month PIP period?

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post Sep 2 2024, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Aug 30 2024, 02:35 PM)
Performance Improvement Plan
One more word - " monitoring " will cause different meaning......................
My company only have 1 stage of Performance Improvement Plan (PIP).

Sent email straightaway.

No stage 1 (counselling) and stage 2(verbal warning).

Stage 3: Send the email from [start date] to [end date].

Do all MNCs Performance Improvement Plan have these three outcomes?

1) Terminate the employee

2) Extend the PIP

3) Discontinue the program (meaning the employee has passed and their performance has improved)

And the email will not state these 3 outcomes right?
Some company do not write this into their their handbook?

My email from management just ended with this sentence:

'We appreciate your acknowledgment.'

I have not signed anything at all.No physical letter has been issued to me.I just received an email from the company.
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Direct to the point,
1) what happened btw you and and manager or senior manager
2) what was your yearly appraisal/performance rating in pass 3 years? Meet expectation/below expectation?

If consistently below expectation then can understand why they send you this.

I am not sure about Singapore, but in Malaysia banking line now, Is better to maintain good relationship with current management unless you are very sure that you won't be staying in this line. For high position, new employer needs to get "some feedback" from corrent employer before they can give you offer.

Like now for sure in the email they have explained and given you the targets that they want you to achiet, usually is wuantitative targets for evaluation purposes, if you still can't meet after the PIP then they can do necessary after the period.

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post Sep 11 2024, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Sep 2 2024, 12:58 PM)
Direct to the point,
1) what happened btw you and and manager or senior manager
2) what was your yearly appraisal/performance rating in pass 3 years? Meet expectation/below expectation?

If consistently below expectation then can understand why they send you this.

I am not sure about Singapore,  but in Malaysia banking line now, Is better to maintain good relationship with current management unless you are very sure that you won't be staying in this line. For high position, new employer needs to get "some feedback" from corrent employer before they can give you offer.

Like now for sure in the email they have explained and given you the targets that they want you to achiet, usually is wuantitative targets for evaluation purposes, if you still can't meet after the PIP then they can do necessary after the period.
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Only thing I know is just wait......



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post Sep 12 2024, 08:35 PM

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Difficulty sleeping and low mood can be quite challenging. Sometimes, it helps to identify possible causes of stress, anxiety, or lifestyle changes that may be affecting your sleep.

Here are a few suggestions to help manage your mood and improve sleep:





Sleep Routine: Try setting a consistent bedtime and wake-up time, even if it feels difficult at first.


Relaxation Techniques: Consider mindfulness, meditation, or breathing exercises to calm your mind before sleep.


Avoid Stimulants: Cut down on caffeine and screen time before bed.



Physical Activity: Light exercise during the day may help improve your mood and make it easier to fall asleep.




Talking to Someone: If you're comfortable, talking to a friend or seeking professional help may offer some relief.
Feel free to share more if you’d like to talk about what’s on your mind!



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I'm really sorry you're going through this, especially if you feel like you're being unfairly targeted and unsupported by your colleagues. Feeling betrayed and isolated can make the situation even more challenging.


Here are a few things you might consider:




Focus on What You Can Control:


While it’s hard to change others' behavior, focusing on your own work and improvements can help.

By doing so, you can ensure you’re doing everything possible to meet the expectations set for you.




Avoid Confrontation:


It’s tempting to confront colleagues if you feel betrayed, but staying calm and professional will serve you better in the long run.
Engaging in office drama might worsen the situation.





Document Everything:


Keep track of your work and any communication, especially if you're asked to meet certain targets.

Having a clear record of your progress can protect you if you need to defend your performance.

Black and white work instruction?



Talk to a Trusted Superior:

If you feel comfortable, share your concerns with a manager or HR department. Explain the situation calmly and focus on how it's affecting your performance and mental well-being.



Consider Professional Support:

Sometimes, talking to someone outside of work, such as a counselor or mentor, can help you work through your feelings of frustration and betrayal.




Remember, being the only one to receive the letter doesn’t always mean you’re the only one under scrutiny. The focus should be on how to improve and move forward positively. It’s tough, but try to maintain your professionalism and focus on your goals.






Receiving a performance improvement letter can be stressful, and it's understandable that it's affecting your mood and sleep. It's important to approach this situation with a clear mind, even though it feels overwhelming. Here are some steps that might help:




Understand the Feedback: Carefully review the areas mentioned in the letter. Understand what is expected of you and where you need to improve.



Set Clear Goals: Break down the required improvements into smaller, manageable steps. Set specific goals for each week to track your progress.




Ask for Support: If you’re unclear about certain expectations, reach out to your supervisor for clarification. You can also ask for feedback along the way to ensure you're on the right track.



****** Self-Care: Take care of your mental health during this time. Sleep, exercise, and breaks are essential to keep your mind fresh and focused on improvement. *********




***** Positive Mindset: Try to view this as an opportunity for growth. Performance improvement plans can sometimes lead to positive changes in your work habits and skills. *****



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Self-Care During Rest Days


Use your rest days to recharge fully, both mentally and physically. Doing something you enjoy, such as


a hobby, exercise, or spending time with friends, visit some meseum,hiking,visit some national park,Upper Peirce Reservoir


Route 6 (TreeTop Walk): Moderate to difficult, 7km


Explore the Treetop Walk with this looping trail that starts from Windsor Nature Park.


MacRitchie trails

Opening hours for the TreeTop walk

Mondays (except public holidays): Closed

Tuesdays to Fridays:
9am to 5pm (last entry at 4:45pm)

Weekends and public holidays:
8:30am to 5pm (last entry at 4:45pm)




can help reset your mood.


Consider Venting Safely

Talk to someone: If possible, vent your frustrations to a trusted friend or family member outside of work. Sometimes just expressing those feelings in a safe space can help release tension.


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