What do they ask u to do in PIP?

But if the boss memang jahat wanna kenakan the employee, how?

Is Singapore different in style?

My email from management just ended with this sentence:

'We appreciate your acknowledgment.'





I have not signed anything at all.

No physical letter has been issued to me.

I just received an email from the company.

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Aug 30 2024, 09:10 PM

Manager have to justify to HR why this staff kena pip.

Lots of paperwork and justification. Not just because boss is jahat.

HR will only listen to the manager. They're all in cahoots.

5% that kena PIP actually made it through i guess, and sometimes its not because your performance meet the crazy target that they set, but because they kesian u and decide to give u another chance

they have written black and white documents with targets that u need to meet during the PIP, and even if u meet them, they still can fire u off actually and say u didnt meet the target, PIP is just a formality and to protect the company in case the employee sue the company for unfair dismissal

and yes its one of the ways for the bosses to kenakan employees that they dont like or have beef with, last time my ex company 1 staff kena, he was star performer in his team for many quarters and even won award in the company as a star performer, then one day his team change manager and the new manager didnt like him, and put him in PIP to force him out, end up he resigned also

To trigger stage 3, aka start of PIP.

Your supervisor/manager should already gave repetitive performance warning/reminder which you never heed.

This is the 'evidences' whether in past email/reviews/chat to remind you that certain things can't do or must deliver which you failed to meet.

So yeah, people who get PIP already getting warned by supervisor about their low performance. Just they don't listen and the tidak apa attitude as long my salary come in monthly.

Start look for job, there's no cap for number of PIP. you miraculously pass 1 pip (like 5-10% chance). few months down the road there can be another one. Also PIP are low performer which may not entitle to bonus/increment. bleak future in the company.

2 outcomes, pass and you stay. failed and you're out.

Throw letter

Define performance metric within 1 or 2 quarter

Like picking up specific skillet or deliverable within certain period of time

If that boss really target you .in the description he can add some vague and arguable expectation to hailat you

HR usually will side manager..unless HR feel like manager action might lead to potential legal issue

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Aug 30 2024, 10:18 PM

Start looking for new job lo. PIP means telling you to resign in a polite way.

You make think of PPAP song only

Management didn't do anything meh?
Not question why suddenly new manager and get one of the "best" performer with PIP

My first time hearing PIP was from k/. But if I remember correctly, someone did survive after PIP.

u just summed up /k in nutshell deswai got so mani experts here with big celeri left right hand

lel

in the end management sided with the new manager iirc, and he resigned himself, im not really sure of the full details because he is in another team but i did see his name in the company star performer award a few times during townhall meetings, and one day he suddenly resigned just like that, many ppl were shocked, then i go kepoh from other colleagues what happened, and all i heard is the team change to new manager for a few months, and PIP

How's the new manager's team/department?

Yeah..... Some bosses will throw out people that won't "assimilate" with their old cultures

Had it before, jump before it simmered though

is PIP a new thang in corporate world?

i've left corporate life since 2010 lol..

I tell U, if U wanted to remove a worker due to his/her bad performance even if U did full stages of PIP also, she can sue U back from labor law.

Just happened last year in a fmcg company. The lady executive level has serves more than 10 years. Bad performance. Done PIP and paid her 1 month in advance to ask her leave.

She bohsong go labor law, company then pay back I forget 24 months or 28 months. True story because the lady company is our principal meanwhile we are the distributor

the team only he 1 person kena iirc, others are safe, i also not sure what happened between him and his new manager, didnt go kepoh much and just minding my business haha, but that incident also reminded me that no matter how well u perform in a company, also useless punya, because in MNC everyone is replaceable, the company can easily hire new staff to replace the old ones

and also maintain a good relationship with your manager/supervisor, he/she is the one who will be deciding to put u into PIP, and the HR will not question their decision because there are too many teams and impossible they go check each team punya PIP decision lol,
if u always ular but always kiss your manager's ass then he/she will not put u into PIP and put another person in your team into PIP, but if u work very hard and perform very well but not ngam with your manager always argue then he/she will put u into PIP to get rid of u lol

https://dnh.com.my/case-spotlight-performan...n-pip-pitfalls/

this?