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post Aug 8 2024, 11:53 AM, updated 2y ago

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Making early final arrangements
By ALLISON LAI
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Thursday, 08 Aug 2024

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Last stop: Some of the coffin shops and funeral parlours found on Jalan Masjid, Ipoh. — RONNIE CHIN/The Star

PETALING JAYA: Rising costs and limited options are driving more Malaysians to plan their final arrangements carefully, such as securing affordable burial plots or columbarium niches in advance, say industry players.

They said this allows individuals to plan the payment of their final arrangements, providing peace of mind as well as financial security for themselves and their loved ones.

Malaysia Funeral Public Association secretary-general Nick Chow said rising costs have made pre-planning a more practical and accepted practice.

“The price surge is not isolated to a single aspect, but a domino effect touching every part of the industry,” he said in an interview.

For example, he said coffins for burial have seen a 50% to 250% increase in the past 10 years, while cremation coffins have risen by 30% to 150%.

“Many essential funeral items have also gone up by 20% to 250%,” said Chow, who estimated a standard cremation funeral package costs between RM10,000 and RM30,000, with a burial package ranging from RM20,000 to RM50,000.

“The cost of a basic burial plot can range from RM40,000 to RM80,000 alone, before adding the funeral package.”


The director of Wan World Funeral Services said pre-owning packages for burial plots and columbarium niches are gaining popularity as people seek to secure affordable final resting places.

“This trend is gaining traction due to the rising cost of living and materials.

“Being prepared allows them to not be burdened by the financial strain of final arrangements and ensures that one’s wishes are heeded, rather than leaving that responsibility to grieving family members,” he said.

As the population ages and costs continue to rise, Chow says he expects the demand for these services to grow.

“Securing a final resting place in advance allows individuals to lock in current pricing and avoid future increases, providing peace of mind,” he said, adding that various reasons were behind the general price increase for funeral services, regardless of religious beliefs.

He noted that the recent diesel subsidy rationalisation has also led to higher transportation costs, creating a knock-on effect that has impacted the entire supply chain and raised prices across the board.

However, Chow said that the poor and underprivileged can always reach out to the association for assistance as it has been offering coffin donations and funeral services for the needy.

Perak-based Fook Loke Sau Casket Centre director Thung Siew Ching also cited increased costs in all essential funeral services, such as transportation, funeral staff, funeral parlour rental, cremation and burial sites.

“Other essential funeral items such as flowers, decorations, paper paraphernalia, burial clothes, incense and candles have also increased in price by 10% to 20%.

“This includes the coffin, which is the most important for any funeral, where prices have also gone up by at least 20%,” she said.

To alleviate families’ burdens and concerns, Thung said her company remains committed to support those facing financial constraints – to ensure that everyone has access to dignified final arrangements.

“We understand (times are) hard (so) we don’t simply raise prices.

“Also, any fixed-price package may not address what the family needs or match what they want.

“It’s important to provide affordable options and customised services to meet the diverse needs of the community,” she said.

Thung said the most basic cremation coffin that costs several hundred ringgit is still available, and is suitable for charity or those who need fast cremation.

“A funeral may cost from as low as RM3,000 to more than RM200,000.

“It only makes sense when providers respond by offering more flexible options and customisable packages – to cater to the diverse needs of consumers seeking to secure their final resting places in a cost-effective and meaningful way,” she said.

A casket and funeral service provider in Melaka who only wanted to be known as Heng said personalised packages with flexible payment plans will become increasingly popular in addressing evolving needs.

“People are more accepting of the notion of planning their final arrangements.

“This shift in mindset reflects a growing desire for control, financial security and the ability to alleviate the burden on loved ones during a difficult time,” he said.

Heng added that those who plan ahead were able to pay for their burial plot by installments, locking in the current price and lessening unexpected costs for their family.

Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...al-arrangements
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 11:57 AM)
type c je yang pening pasal mati
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 11:57 AM)
type c je yang pening pasal mati
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Setiap kaum ada adat dan agama dia.
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 11:57 AM)
type c je yang pening pasal mati
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berapa manyak dah masuk notifications tuuuuuuu

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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 11:57 AM)
type c je yang pening pasal mati
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komen macam c*bai

ingat sini fesbuk ke
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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ Aug 8 2024, 12:00 PM)
Setiap kaum ada adat dan agama dia.
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tapi ada jugak orang tak beragama yang tak kesah asal ada tempat kebumi
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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ Aug 8 2024, 12:00 PM)
Setiap kaum ada adat dan agama dia.
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i understand. im sorry if offended you.
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QUOTE(DValentine @ Aug 8 2024, 12:03 PM)
komen macam c*bai

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type c bukan jenis mudah chill ke?
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20-50k better spend for travel

When alive got pay for travel package home package wedding package..

Die also need package

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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 11:57 AM)
type c je yang pening pasal mati
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not all type -C like this

only those yang 迷信
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sky burial legal or not here?

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even if u dont pay la, later u die sure got ppl handle your corpse and burial/funeral one mah
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Serious question..if family no money for burial what the worse can happen? Surely govt won't let the deceased rot without proper burial right.
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If gonna cremate anyway why choose mahal2

ok, last respect right? Give the best for the last departure.

But think of the living too. They need the money as well. Losing a breadwinner is bad enough, why burden urself with expensive customs

Funeral parlours make money out of u, nirvana make tonnes of money of of u.

Ok i cannot comment. I diam
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actually how much does a muslim burial cost?

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lah @latipbogiba terus kena sus w that comment

meanwhile others commented more things about type M rilek je still posting around


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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 11:57 AM)
type c je yang pening pasal mati
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type *** get government land for burial.

very cheap, think is only RM100 per plot?

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 8 2024, 12:13 PM)
actually how much does a muslim burial cost?
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if remember at most 100-200 only .


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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 11:57 AM)
type c je yang pening pasal mati
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i understand. im sorry if offended you.
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 12:05 PM)
hahaha
type c bukan jenis mudah chill ke?
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fuk that went escalated fast

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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Aug 8 2024, 12:15 PM)
if remember at most 100-200 only .
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100-200 is prolly the coffin and everything
what about the land?...they don't pay for it?

for chinese or christian, the land part is the most expensive which is why people today opt for cremation

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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 11:57 AM)
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Wtf

Tame like hell la this comment. I bet many cinas also agree with him

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Cremate and throw into the sea. Cheapest.
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100-200 is prolly the coffin and everything
what about the land?...they don't pay for it?
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No coffin for muslim

Kain kafan only
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 8 2024, 12:16 PM)
100-200 is prolly the coffin and everything
what about the land?...they don't pay for it?

for chinese or christian, the land part is the most expensive which is why people today opt for cremation
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muslim no coffin one.

just kain kafan

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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Aug 8 2024, 12:14 PM)
lah @latipbogiba terus kena sus w that comment

meanwhile others commented more things about type M rilek je still posting around
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ekcelli depends on the mods dis time oso but from the comment iykyk hiuhiuhiuhiuhiu

ayam last time kana sused few years ago just only comment m sampah only then later iykyk lar again

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QUOTE(gogocan @ Aug 8 2024, 12:11 PM)
Serious question..if family no money for burial what the worse can happen? Surely govt won't let the deceased rot without proper burial right.
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Govt got give cheap cremation services (not inclusive of monks). I think still got public columbarium
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QUOTE(gogocan @ Aug 8 2024, 12:11 PM)
Serious question..if family no money for burial what the worse can happen? Surely govt won't let the deceased rot without proper burial right.
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Serious answer:

If Muslim, the state religious authorities handle it as a last resort. Can't decide where to be buried, but at least they handle the dead body

Non-Muslims, rely on NGO's/Charity. Some like Tzu Chi will assist in some cases for unclaimed bodies from the hospitals where they can't find next of kin. Disposal via cremation. Even for non-type C, non-Tzu Chi belief deceased

I have seen cases where the state religious authorities deal with it when the hospital can't determine if they were Muslim or not, but usually for people from places where the population is mostly Muslim (Indonesia, Bangladesh, etc)
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QUOTE(acbc @ Aug 8 2024, 12:16 PM)
Cremate and throw into the sea. Cheapest.
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i think they now ban

got to do it hush hush
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Wtf

Tame like hell la this comment. I bet many cinas also agree with him

Consider rescinding mods
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is true.

A lot want to seek burial plots.

The other day I attended my friend father funeral, he said the father already paid 80k reserve long time ago for him and wife.
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Aug 8 2024, 12:16 PM)
Wtf

Tame like hell la this comment. I bet many cinas also agree with him

Consider rescinding mods
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ayam edi commented him earlier but iykyk lar

anyways thats really fast

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i think they now ban

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Pay some fishermen to do it. They also happy to earn some extra cash. No need to do any prayers or such. Just throw the canister into the sea and 1 minute silence.
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Muslim.. got public cemetery right.. under state gomen
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Pay some fishermen to do it. They also happy to earn some extra cash. No need to do any prayers or such. Just throw the canister into the sea and 1 minute silence.
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yes that's what my friend in the funeral biz told me.

or he can just bury the ashes in a common burial plot in a plantation.
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QUOTE(ganz @ Aug 8 2024, 12:21 PM)
Muslim.. got public cemetery right.. under state gomen
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Pretty much

Handy when the state helps with the cost of funerals
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 11:57 AM)
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lol sussed
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Aug 8 2024, 12:16 PM)
Wtf

Tame like hell la this comment. I bet many cinas also agree with him

Consider rescinding mods
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i say sus his ass


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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Aug 8 2024, 12:20 PM)
is true.

A lot want to seek burial plots.

The other day I attended my friend father funeral, he said the father already paid 80k reserve long time ago for him and wife.
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What do u get with rm80k?

Long ago means will be worth more now?
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Aug 8 2024, 12:16 PM)
Wtf

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Consider rescinding mods
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cina here, tak terasa pun. memang pun cina punya funeral paling pening. it's facts. why sus him? I kena sus for a month by strawberry mod also for stating fact lol.

back on topic: friend's dad passed on, buta buta funeral costs 80-90k. i personally thinking when my parents also pass on already, where am i gonna find that money to cover their funeral costs.

sigh
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QUOTE(leftycall9 @ Aug 8 2024, 12:00 PM)
Setiap kaum ada adat dan agama dia.
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Not because of adat. People make business out of funeral. Paper house, car and etc does not really cost much in term of material. Yest in small town people don't die daily unlike big city. This generate more money. smile.gif
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i think they now ban

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Uh, no

Sea burials are legal in Malaysia

Sure permits and notifications are required, and limited to designated locations, but it is not banned

And this is why funeral directors have a job: to help guide through the process
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i say sus his ass
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I saw this too some time ago

Cardboard box

Dont spend unnecessary money, but i know some people want jaga “face” and give the best to their loved ones

If u really wanna give the best to ur loved ones, do it when they are alive

Not give expensive coffin and burn big paper house, big paper car, paper maid and iphone kertas
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QUOTE(ganz @ Aug 8 2024, 12:21 PM)
Muslim.. got public cemetery right.. under state gomen
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i think this is why it's cheap
people don't need to pay for the land part
meanwhile land part for other religion is the most expensive part

the funeral itself is actually very cheap
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QUOTE(Zot @ Aug 8 2024, 12:27 PM)
Not because of adat. People make business out of funeral. Paper house, car and etc does not really cost much in term of material. Yest in small town people don't die daily unlike big city. This generate more money.  smile.gif
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It's legal business still.
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Muslim burial site mostly donated (wakaf) by fellow muslim

Some handle by wakaf foundation like wakaf al nur

So no cost for site

gali kubur RM 100
Transport RM 100-150
mandi & kafan RM 100-150

Cost above mostly covered by khairat kematian & donation..practically free

That's all..no need fancy²..just plant some tree as marking..old people last time just put ketchup bottle.

But of course if u want to add gravestone / casing etc which is unncessary u need to add up more..around maybe RM300-1k.

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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Aug 8 2024, 12:26 PM)
cina here, tak terasa pun. memang pun cina punya funeral paling pening. it's facts. why sus him? I kena sus for a month by strawberry mod also for stating fact lol.

back on topic: friend's dad passed on, buta buta funeral costs 80-90k. i personally thinking when my parents also pass on already, where am i gonna find that money to cover their funeral costs.

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Times change lor

Last time ancient cina 99% of the ppl peasants and lead shitty lives. So if got chance they have a comfortable after life they will pull out all the stops and spend as much as they can with elaborate ceremonies.

Now we are richer, lead happier lives (real one), just let go when you die. Give the money to your kids.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 8 2024, 12:16 PM)
100-200 is prolly the coffin and everything
what about the land?...they don't pay for it?

for chinese or christian, the land part is the most expensive which is why people today opt for cremation
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land mostly wakaf/sedekah so its free
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hahaha
type c bukan jenis mudah chill ke?
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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Aug 8 2024, 12:26 PM)
cina here, tak terasa pun. memang pun cina punya funeral paling pening. it's facts. why sus him? I kena sus for a month by strawberry mod also for stating fact lol.

back on topic: friend's dad passed on, buta buta funeral costs 80-90k. i  funeral costs 80-90k. i personally thinking when my parents also pass on already, where am i gonna find that money to cover their funeral costs.

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fuk thats a hell lot of money

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QUOTE(atook @ Aug 8 2024, 12:33 PM)
land mostly wakaf/sedekah so its free
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this is the very reason it's cheap
the funeral part for other religion is cheap...it's the land or placement that's expensive
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 11:57 AM)
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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Aug 8 2024, 12:26 PM)
cina here, tak terasa pun. memang pun cina punya funeral paling pening. it's facts. why sus him? I kena sus for a month by strawberry mod also for stating fact lol.

back on topic: friend's dad passed on, buta buta funeral costs 80-90k. i personally thinking when my parents also pass on already, where am i gonna find that money to cover their funeral costs.

sigh
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QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Aug 8 2024, 11:56 AM)
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 8 2024, 12:29 PM)
i think this is why it's cheap
people don't need to pay for the land part
meanwhile land part for other religion is the most expensive part

the funeral itself is actually very cheap
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I don't know if land is provided but govt but most of funeral grounds are "tanah wakaf". People donate their land for public use, like they can wakaf the land for cemetery use, wakaf the land to build mosque, etc. Lands that are wakaf by individual cannot be changed or taken by govt. This has also has become an issue too when the land end up in the middle of commercial area. There were discussion about it and I did not follow up what is the outcome.

I can say after 3rd or 4th generations, no one probably visit the grave during Qing Ming. Some got children migrated to other countries. Who would pay for maintenance if relative cannot be traced anymore? In Muslim case, those old grave they will reuse for new body. The remains (bones) of the previous "dweller" will be moved to area that dense with other bones (buried much close to each others) to create more space. That is why it is cheap.
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QUOTE(atook @ Aug 8 2024, 12:39 PM)
cannot buat loan ?
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Will you lend money for funeral expenses?

If they fail to pay up, do what? Seize the burial plot? Exhume the body and campak to the sea so can resell the plot?
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Cremation carton box more environmentally friendly and affordable. Remember they were widely used during COVID pandemic.
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QUOTE(amboi_asamboi @ Aug 8 2024, 12:26 PM)
What do u get with rm80k?

Long ago means will be worth more now?
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You mean the burial area?

no idea, my friend book punya.

I only went to attend the funeral at Xiao En, didn't go to the cemetary.
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type c je yang pening pasal mati
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20-50k better spend for travel

When alive got pay for travel package home package wedding package..

Die also need package
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sky burial legal or not here?

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type c je yang pening pasal mati
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Cremation carton box more environmentally friendly and affordable. Remember they were widely used during COVID pandemic.
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Not many takers for environmentally friendly coffins
By GERARD GIMINO and HO JIA WEN
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PETALING JAYA: Despite the growing popularity of environmentally friendly coffins in neighbouring countries like Singapore, its use has yet to take off locally.

Since its introduction in Malaysia in 2013, these coffins only account for 5% to 10% of total coffin sales, said the Malaysia Funeral Public Association.

Association president Kong Thian Hau said the older generation may also be less inclined to use coffins made of cardboard.

“Those with traditional mindsets may be relatively conservative and find these hard to accept,” he said when contacted.

However, Kong said Generation Y, or those born in the 1990s, could be more open to the idea.

“We also expect higher use of environmentally friendly coffins when it is their time to carry out funeral planning,” he said.

Kong explained that environmentally friendly coffins are generally made of thick cardboard and corrugated paper, or materials that have lower carbon footprint, which results in less emissions during cremation.

“It uses many patented technologies to provide moisture resistance, load-bearing capacity and more. It is not just simply about using thick cardboard,” he said.

While some perceive cardboard coffins to be cheaper, the reverse is actually true.

“Existing products in Malaysia are mainly imported from places such as the United States and Hong Kong. Due to the exchange rate and transportation cost, prices may be higher than traditional ones,” he said.

Association deputy chairman Jamelia Looi Heng Ling said those producing eco-coffins pay close attention to ensure the production chain is eco-friendly, in addition to the materials used.

“Environmentally certified products are generally more expensive.

“In light of this, prices of environmentally friendly coffins are relatively higher,” she said, adding that the imported ones are only suitable for cremation and not burials.

“Cremation must also be carried out with specially formulated technology. Thick cardboard is relatively easy to burn and the flame intensity cannot be too strong.

“Otherwise, the outer layer of the coffin will be completely burnt before the body inside has turned into ashes,” she said, adding that most crematoriums in the country are only suitable for cremating traditional coffins.

“If environmentally friendly coffins are used, they usually need to be sent to specific private crematoriums, which can result in higher total funeral costs,” she added.

Fook Loke Sau Casket Centre director Thung Siew Ching said some people have qualms using environmentally friendly coffins, especially those who organise wakes for the deceased.

“There are those who use dry ice in this process, which can result in moist conditions that some quarters may be uncomfortable with,” she said.

On the other hand, there is ready demand for environmentally friendly urns.

“It is made in a way that will dissolve upon touching water. However, the urn must be carefully handled as it is made with material similar to paper and dissolves quickly,” she said.

Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...riendly-coffins

inb4 Muslims don't use confins
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 11:57 AM)
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Can go convert. When die got people go snatch body straight burial. All FOC, Senang dan murah.
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Not many takers for environmentally friendly coffins
By GERARD GIMINO and HO JIA WEN
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PETALING JAYA: Despite the growing popularity of environmentally friendly coffins in neighbouring countries like Singapore, its use has yet to take off locally.
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Can go convert. When die got people go snatch body straight burial. All FOC, Senang dan murah.
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If you got no family, then never mind. If you got family, all your belongings will not go to them anymore
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Oh ya hor. Didn't think about that perspective.

What if already do will before hand?
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Oh ya hor. Didn't think about that perspective.

What if already do will before hand?
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Oh ya hor. Didn't think about that perspective.

What if already do will before hand?
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Conversion to Islam invalidates any wills created prior to being Muslim

And Muslim's can only give max 1/3 of their estate of non-Muslims
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 11:57 AM)
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enjoy your holiday

no need send postcard
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No effect. That’s why it’s called Hotel California
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 8 2024, 12:16 PM)
100-200 is prolly the coffin and everything
what about the land?...they don't pay for it?

for chinese or christian, the land part is the most expensive which is why people today opt for cremation
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Conversion to Islam invalidates any wills created prior to being Muslim

And Muslim's can only give max 1/3 of their estate of non-Muslims
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But can Non-muslim give their estate to muslim?
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If you got no family, then never mind. If you got family, all your belongings will not go to them anymore
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Easy, just die penniless and let them have the body
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Aug 8 2024, 01:04 PM)
But can Non-muslim give their estate to muslim?
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Yes

No limitation in how much non-Muslims can will their estate to Muslims

Nak beri 100% pun boleh
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Easy, just die penniless and let them have the body
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Where your family go during Ching Ming?
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Where your family go during Ching Ming?
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To the Muslim cemetery lor

inb4 don't have family

inb4 no relatives
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Where your family go during Ching Ming?
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Visit quietly other times.

Qing ming always packed anyway
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what about India funeral? is it expensive to?
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To the Muslim cemetery lor

inb4 don't have family

inb4 no relatives
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If nobody claim, your body will be cremated
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cina dont have free burial land?
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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Aug 8 2024, 12:20 PM)
is true.

A lot want to seek burial plots.

The other day I attended my friend father funeral, he said the father already paid 80k reserve long time ago for him and wife.
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my friend early 30s already bought funeral plot RM60k 5 years instalment

current life not that good but already planned for death. don't understand him
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Wtf

Tame like hell la this comment. I bet many cinas also agree with him

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Acherly ayam agree, nothing offensive also. Donno why he kena sus.
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1. simpan duit for coffin - done
2. beli condo for urn - done
3. simpan duit for funeral rites and wake - tengah create tabung

tu lah... hikayat seorang cina zaman moden.
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It's expensive because it's difficult to get land allocation for non-Muslims. In Melaka, the Catholics and Protestants are expected to share the same area despite being different denominations.

I think most Malays really underestimate how challenging it is for the minorities. Consider these article from 2022 as comparison:

For Malays:
Harga barang naik, meninggal dunia perlu ada RM5,000
https://www.kosmo.com.my/2022/07/01/harga-b...rlu-ada-rm5000/

GEORGE TOWN – Umat Islam yang tidak menyertai khairat kematian perlu menyediakan antara RM2,000 hingga RM5,000 sebagai kos untuk menyempurnakan majlis pengebumian mereka yang semakin meningkat ketika ini. Wang itu termasuk digunakan bagi perbelanjaan majlis tah­lil tiga malam berturut-turut, tempahan makanan dan pembe­lian batu nisan. Selain itu, kos berkenaan juga bagi menampung van jenazah, kelengkapan kapan dan lain-lain.

For Chinese:
https://malaysiagazette.com/2022/06/20/kos-...umian-melonjak/
PULAU PINANG – Kos pengebumian untuk kaum Cina telah melonjak dengan harga keranda sahaja telah meningkat berterusan selama 10 tahun.

Presiden Pertubuhan Istiadat Pengebumian Orang Awam Malaysia, Kong Thian Hau berkata, harga keranda untuk pengebumian cara menanam telah meningkat antara 50 hingga 250 peratus dalam 10 tahun sementara keranda untuk pengebumian pembakaran meningkat antara 30 hingga 150 peratus.

Beliau berkata, harga untuk keranda tradisional yang melibatkan banyak kerja tangan pula boleh mencecah antara RM18,000 hingga RM28,000 sebuah, antaranya kerana semakin kekurangan tenaga mahir untuk menghasilkannya dan banyak masa diperlukan dalam proses pembuatan.

“Kenaikan harga keranda didorong oleh pelbagai faktor termasuk kos bahan mentah, kadar pertukaran, kos buruh, pengangkutan, malahan kesan rantaian daripada perang,” katanya kepada China Press.

Ujarnya, untuk pembakaran, pakej pengebumian dengan membakar yang ditawarkan adalah antara RM10,000 hingga RM30,000 manakala pengebumian tanah pula memerlukan antara RM20,000 hingga RM50,000.
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cina dont have free burial land?
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Aug 8 2024, 01:12 PM)
It's expensive because it's difficult to get land allocation for non-Muslims. In Melaka, the Catholics and Protestants are expected to share the same area despite being different denominations.

I think most Malays really underestimate how challenging it is for the minorities. Consider these article from 2022 as comparison:

For Malays:
Harga barang naik, meninggal dunia perlu ada RM5,000
https://www.kosmo.com.my/2022/07/01/harga-b...rlu-ada-rm5000/

GEORGE TOWN – Umat Islam yang tidak menyertai khairat kematian perlu menyediakan antara RM2,000 hingga RM5,000 sebagai kos untuk menyempurnakan majlis pengebumian mereka yang semakin meningkat ketika ini. Wang itu termasuk digunakan bagi perbelanjaan majlis tah­lil tiga malam berturut-turut, tempahan makanan dan pembe­lian batu nisan. Selain itu, kos berkenaan juga bagi menampung van jenazah, kelengkapan kapan dan lain-lain.

For Chinese:
https://malaysiagazette.com/2022/06/20/kos-...umian-melonjak/
PULAU PINANG – Kos pengebumian untuk kaum Cina telah melonjak dengan harga keranda sahaja telah meningkat berterusan selama 10 tahun.

Presiden Pertubuhan Istiadat Pengebumian Orang Awam Malaysia, Kong Thian Hau berkata, harga keranda untuk pengebumian cara menanam telah meningkat antara 50 hingga 250 peratus dalam 10 tahun sementara keranda untuk pengebumian pembakaran meningkat antara 30 hingga 150 peratus.

Beliau berkata, harga untuk keranda tradisional yang melibatkan banyak kerja tangan pula boleh mencecah antara RM18,000 hingga RM28,000 sebuah, antaranya kerana semakin kekurangan tenaga mahir untuk menghasilkannya dan banyak masa diperlukan dalam proses pembuatan.

“Kenaikan harga keranda didorong oleh pelbagai faktor termasuk kos bahan mentah, kadar pertukaran, kos buruh, pengangkutan, malahan kesan rantaian daripada perang,” katanya kepada China Press.

Ujarnya, untuk pembakaran, pakej pengebumian dengan membakar yang ditawarkan adalah antara RM10,000 hingga RM30,000 manakala pengebumian tanah pula memerlukan antara RM20,000 hingga RM50,000.
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how about sea burial like Osama Bin Laden?
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Cremate and throw into the sea. Cheapest.
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QUOTE(ray123 @ Aug 8 2024, 01:12 PM)
It's expensive because it's difficult to get land allocation for non-Muslims. In Melaka, the Catholics and Protestants are expected to share the same area despite being different denominations.

I think most Malays really underestimate how challenging it is for the minorities. Consider these article from 2022 as comparison:

For Malays:
Harga barang naik, meninggal dunia perlu ada RM5,000
https://www.kosmo.com.my/2022/07/01/harga-b...rlu-ada-rm5000/

GEORGE TOWN – Umat Islam yang tidak menyertai khairat kematian perlu menyediakan antara RM2,000 hingga RM5,000 sebagai kos untuk menyempurnakan majlis pengebumian mereka yang semakin meningkat ketika ini. Wang itu termasuk digunakan bagi perbelanjaan majlis tah­lil tiga malam berturut-turut, tempahan makanan dan pembe­lian batu nisan. Selain itu, kos berkenaan juga bagi menampung van jenazah, kelengkapan kapan dan lain-lain.

For Chinese:
https://malaysiagazette.com/2022/06/20/kos-...umian-melonjak/
PULAU PINANG – Kos pengebumian untuk kaum Cina telah melonjak dengan harga keranda sahaja telah meningkat berterusan selama 10 tahun.

Presiden Pertubuhan Istiadat Pengebumian Orang Awam Malaysia, Kong Thian Hau berkata, harga keranda untuk pengebumian cara menanam telah meningkat antara 50 hingga 250 peratus dalam 10 tahun sementara keranda untuk pengebumian pembakaran meningkat antara 30 hingga 150 peratus.

Beliau berkata, harga untuk keranda tradisional yang melibatkan banyak kerja tangan pula boleh mencecah antara RM18,000 hingga RM28,000 sebuah, antaranya kerana semakin kekurangan tenaga mahir untuk menghasilkannya dan banyak masa diperlukan dalam proses pembuatan.

“Kenaikan harga keranda didorong oleh pelbagai faktor termasuk kos bahan mentah, kadar pertukaran, kos buruh, pengangkutan, malahan kesan rantaian daripada perang,” katanya kepada China Press.

Ujarnya, untuk pembakaran, pakej pengebumian dengan membakar yang ditawarkan adalah antara RM10,000 hingga RM30,000 manakala pengebumian tanah pula memerlukan antara RM20,000 hingga RM50,000.
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18 Jan how many figures?
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Acherly ayam agree, nothing offensive also. Donno why he kena sus.
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how about sea burial like Osama Bin Laden?
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Most of us prefer not to be on the USA's Most Wanted Terrorist list and be taken out by US Special Forces just so we can get a FOC sea burial
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Making early final arrangements
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PETALING JAYA: Rising costs and limited options are driving more Malaysians to plan their final arrangements carefully, such as securing affordable burial plots or columbarium niches in advance, say industry players.

They said this allows individuals to plan the payment of their final arrangements, providing peace of mind as well as financial security for themselves and their loved ones.

Malaysia Funeral Public Association secretary-general Nick Chow said rising costs have made pre-planning a more practical and accepted practice.

“The price surge is not isolated to a single aspect, but a domino effect touching every part of the industry,” he said in an interview.

For example, he said coffins for burial have seen a 50% to 250% increase in the past 10 years, while cremation coffins have risen by 30% to 150%.

“Many essential funeral items have also gone up by 20% to 250%,” said Chow, who estimated a standard cremation funeral package costs between RM10,000 and RM30,000, with a burial package ranging from RM20,000 to RM50,000.

“The cost of a basic burial plot can range from RM40,000 to RM80,000 alone, before adding the funeral package.”


The director of Wan World Funeral Services said pre-owning packages for burial plots and columbarium niches are gaining popularity as people seek to secure affordable final resting places.

“This trend is gaining traction due to the rising cost of living and materials.

“Being prepared allows them to not be burdened by the financial strain of final arrangements and ensures that one’s wishes are heeded, rather than leaving that responsibility to grieving family members,” he said.

As the population ages and costs continue to rise, Chow says he expects the demand for these services to grow.

“Securing a final resting place in advance allows individuals to lock in current pricing and avoid future increases, providing peace of mind,” he said, adding that various reasons were behind the general price increase for funeral services, regardless of religious beliefs.

He noted that the recent diesel subsidy rationalisation has also led to higher transportation costs, creating a knock-on effect that has impacted the entire supply chain and raised prices across the board.

However, Chow said that the poor and underprivileged can always reach out to the association for assistance as it has been offering coffin donations and funeral services for the needy.

Perak-based Fook Loke Sau Casket Centre director Thung Siew Ching also cited increased costs in all essential funeral services, such as transportation, funeral staff, funeral parlour rental, cremation and burial sites.

“Other essential funeral items such as flowers, decorations, paper paraphernalia, burial clothes, incense and candles have also increased in price by 10% to 20%.

“This includes the coffin, which is the most important for any funeral, where prices have also gone up by at least 20%,” she said.

To alleviate families’ burdens and concerns, Thung said her company remains committed to support those facing financial constraints – to ensure that everyone has access to dignified final arrangements.

“We understand (times are) hard (so) we don’t simply raise prices.

“Also, any fixed-price package may not address what the family needs or match what they want.

“It’s important to provide affordable options and customised services to meet the diverse needs of the community,” she said.

Thung said the most basic cremation coffin that costs several hundred ringgit is still available, and is suitable for charity or those who need fast cremation.

“A funeral may cost from as low as RM3,000 to more than RM200,000.

“It only makes sense when providers respond by offering more flexible options and customisable packages – to cater to the diverse needs of consumers seeking to secure their final resting places in a cost-effective and meaningful way,” she said.

A casket and funeral service provider in Melaka who only wanted to be known as Heng said personalised packages with flexible payment plans will become increasingly popular in addressing evolving needs.

“People are more accepting of the notion of planning their final arrangements.

“This shift in mindset reflects a growing desire for control, financial security and the ability to alleviate the burden on loved ones during a difficult time,” he said.

Heng added that those who plan ahead were able to pay for their burial plot by installments, locking in the current price and lessening unexpected costs for their family.

Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...al-arrangements
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for non, want cheap?....... cremation n dump into sea lor
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hahaha
type c bukan jenis mudah chill ke?
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susah kalau mostly suka implement victim mentality. any race ada this kind of people.

but yeah, their budaya is actually not really good even for themselves.
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QUOTE(evolance7 @ Aug 8 2024, 01:39 PM)
susah kalau mostly suka implement victim mentality. any race ada this kind of people.

but yeah, their budaya is actually not really good even for themselves.
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Yup.

Type-C all about $$
From the moment you born until death all $$
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QUOTE(ganz @ Aug 8 2024, 12:21 PM)
Muslim.. got public cemetery right.. under state gomen
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Jabatan Agama handle our funeral with zakat moneh.

and also got muslim land owners that donate their lands to become graveyard for fellow muslims.

We do not profit from the dead but i am not surprised to see later that even muslims will start making profits from the dead.

even donations nowadays also sudah jadi big big business and in the end the intended recipient get nothing will the collectors posting buying big cars and big houses in soc med.
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i understand. im sorry if offended you.
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Knp other race dint follow cremation?
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susah kalau mostly suka implement victim mentality. any race ada this kind of people.

but yeah, their budaya is actually not really good even for themselves.
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Yup.

Type-C all about $$
From the moment you born until death all $$
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 12:05 PM)
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type c bukan jenis mudah chill ke?
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When I die, just cremate my body with no ceremony then throw in the ocean or something. Not gonna make my family pay a small fortune for a grave.
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type c je yang pening pasal mati
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Kecian kena sus.

Those who liked this comment why no sus?
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cina dont have free burial land?
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You got free land can gip to me? I would like to have one.
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this is basically a BIG advert for funeral planners and private cemetery developers to sell their installment plan via FOMO.. basically B40/M40 issue la..

deswai i told my wife i will never invest in a plot for investment sake..
never profit off the dead.. bad karma

i will just buy one from those association when time is near with cash.. currently going price for a couple spot in a columbarium is around 50K.. funeral around 25K per person.. so 100k sud cover me and spouse..

good thing about this type of columbarium is you cant invest... if u don want the spot, u have to resell it back to the association at the original buying price..

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my friend early 30s already bought funeral plot RM60k 5 years instalment

current life not that good but already planned for death. don't understand him
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I told my family if I mati liao, just cremate me and throw me into sea.

I don't want to be a burden to my kids, even after death.

money better use to pass to them.
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QUOTE(seather @ Aug 8 2024, 02:00 PM)
this is basically a BIG advert for funeral planners and private cemetery developers to sell their installment plan via FOMO.. basically B40/M40 issue la..

deswai i told my wife i will never invest in a plot for investment sake..
never profit off the dead.. bad karma

i will just buy one from those association when time is near with cash.. currently going price for a couple spot in a columbarium is around 50K.. funeral around 25K per person.. so 100k sud cover me and spouse..

good thing about this type of columbarium is you cant invest... if u don want the spot, u have to resell it back to the association at the original buying price..
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Even cremate plot also expensive nowadays. All commercialized die also susah lo
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QUOTE(seather @ Aug 8 2024, 02:00 PM)
this is basically a BIG advert for funeral planners and private cemetery developers to sell their installment plan via FOMO.. basically B40/M40 issue la..

deswai i told my wife i will never invest in a plot for investment sake..
never profit off the dead.. bad karma

i will just buy one from those association when time is near with cash.. currently going price for a couple spot in a columbarium is around 50K.. funeral around 25K per person.. so 100k sud cover me and spouse..

good thing about this type of columbarium is you cant invest... if u don want the spot, u have to resell it back to the association at the original buying price..
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Wow...100k..current price?
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problem with chinese traditional thinking
die2 must have a jackup price burial plot

cremate and ashes back to sea/earth cannot?
at least can help coral growth

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QUOTE(gogocan @ Aug 8 2024, 02:16 PM)
Wow...100k..current price?
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the columbarium is brand new la.. finish building in 2020.. got escalator and aircon tongue.gif
so 50k for a double is OK.. got cheaper ones at the old columbarium.. i believe cheapest is 3k for a single..

25k per funeral is kinda standard nowadays.. no?
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Cremate and throw into the sea. Cheapest.
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in SG there is a package cremate and mix it with soil. Back to nature
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even if u dont pay la, later u die sure got ppl handle your corpse and burial/funeral one mah
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serious question to cina fren,

whats the difference between burial at land, cremation?

what is the Nirvana for? saw the big building. keep body inside?
need to pay monthly ke?
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problem with chinese traditional thinking
die2 must have a jackup price burial plot

cremate and ashes back to sea/earth cannot?
at least can help coral growth
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and backward superstitous thinking. Often heard ashes at sea mean will suffer in cold waters
and I often reply it's better than trapped in a box 6 feet under.
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serious question to cina fren,

whats the difference between burial at land, cremation?
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Depends on the person. Some people don't like the idea of being cremated, so prefer full body burial.

Others don't mind, or in fact prefer, cremation
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Depends on the person. Some people don't like the idea of being cremated, so prefer full body burial.

Others don't mind, or in fact prefer, cremation
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Cost main consideration. Got money can buy one lot or a hill.

No money, throw sea also can.
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QUOTE(aizielectreon @ Aug 8 2024, 02:34 PM)
serious question to cina fren,

whats the difference between burial at land, cremation?

what is the Nirvana for? saw the big building. keep body inside?
need to pay monthly ke?
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depends on personal belief lo..
because some old generation take the phrase "back to earth to get eternal peace" literally
but current generation more accepting to cremate..

that big building is a columbarium la.. after cremate the ashes store in individual urn.. that store in the columbarium..
u need to pay in full before u can use it.. either one lump sum or monthly installment
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type c je yang pening pasal mati
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QUOTE(Zot @ Aug 8 2024, 12:42 PM)
I don't know if land is provided but govt but most of funeral grounds are "tanah wakaf". People donate their land for public use, like they can wakaf the land for cemetery use, wakaf the land to build mosque, etc. Lands that are wakaf by individual cannot be changed or taken by govt. This has also has become an issue too when the land end up in the middle of commercial area. There were discussion about it and I did not follow up what is the outcome.

I can say after 3rd or 4th generations, no one probably visit the grave during Qing Ming. Some got children migrated to other countries. Who would pay for maintenance if relative cannot be traced anymore? In Muslim case, those old grave they will reuse for new body. The remains (bones) of the previous "dweller" will be moved to area that dense with other bones (buried much close to each others) to create more space. That is why it is cheap.
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Unlike some focus on the racing koyak feeling for this topic
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First time?
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Most people don't die more than once.

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masuk islam jer

tax payers fund your funeral


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imagine 10 more years our earth cukup tanah to kubur people?
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yes this is usually type c problem

but gad dahm the price its like buying a landed house in the late 80's

unker already told waifu if unker ripped just cremate and throw the ash at the sea of my home town. If still got heart want sembah unker at home just pick up some bone fragments keep it in a jar.
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say true things also can kena one this particular topic, so will remain brief

again

i come with nothing.....

just put ur mind to the logic of the ever decreasing amount land against the exponentially increasing population - lol we won't, because we can't, because it's like that, because when land becomes scare - we won't be here already - not our problem - wat a lovely mindset

logic won't stay in this land because...........ah, why bother stepping on other people's foot

sekian
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 11:57 AM)
type c je yang pening pasal mati
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not really

moden Gen Z type-C wouldn't oppose to the idea of ashes being casted at sea, river, space, etc

some even open to the idea of donating their bodies to medical school

meanwhile bangsa syurgo can only have land burial, until SG govt have to priotize their needs at the expense of the majority there ...


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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Aug 8 2024, 03:02 PM)
masuk islam jer

tax payers fund your funeral
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Hahaha comment that shows you got no type-M friends.

pity you.
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Aug 8 2024, 03:07 PM)
not really

moden Gen Z type-C wouldn't oppose to the idea of ashes being casted at sea, river, space, etc

some even open to the idea of donating their bodies to medical school

meanwhile bangsa syurgo can only have land burial, until SG govt have to priotize their needs at the expense of the majority there ...
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Dont compare that shit hole and here.
Here got no problem for land burial + no one taking profit from dead people like certain type.
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bakar, scatter into the sea
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Aug 8 2024, 03:07 PM)
not really

moden Gen Z type-C wouldn't oppose to the idea of ashes being casted at sea, river, space, etc

some even open to the idea of donating their bodies to medical school

meanwhile bangsa syurgo can only have land burial, until SG govt have to priotize their needs at the expense of the majority there ...
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https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...gers-at-temple/
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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Aug 8 2024, 12:09 PM)
even if u dont pay la, later u die sure got ppl handle your corpse and burial/funeral one mah
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depends on donasi lo.

that's why some single ppl converted to islam :X
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Hidup susah, mati pun susah. Jadi Dewa jelah.

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Hidup susah, mati pun susah. Jadi Dewa jelah.
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Not having kids to go through this is easier (and cheaper)
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 8 2024, 01:13 PM)
actually how much does a muslim burial cost?
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Very seldom more than 2k all-in. Even then unheard of for people to not have enough money, since even local gomen will give aid to fund it for the needy.
https://www.selangor.gov.my/petaling.php/pa...iew/310?mid=171

Also we're taught that burying the dead is an obligation of the whole community, so people won't just 'leave' any body unattended and chances are people would still do it regardless without pay.

Anyway latip post liddat also kena sus? sweat.gif

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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 11:57 AM)
type c je yang pening pasal mati
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betul, type M je semua dpt free. apa lagi type c mau????
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QUOTE(kotaro_minami @ Aug 8 2024, 03:14 PM)
Dont compare that shit hole and here.
Here got no problem for land burial + no one taking profit from dead people like certain type.
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there is no profit or loss
land itself is not free
and somebody has to fund the land part...for both buying the land and maintaining it
that's why chinese has qingming

burial in HK now so expensive is because of land issue....the funeral part is very cheap
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Dafuq sus-ed? This statement is so factual. Had same headache too, and its own father.

Dude just sat us kids down and told us that he did not standby his funeral plot and requested us to settle for him in case anything happened, so now all siblings (except one pai ka seng) are surveying those Nirvana package to get a twin ash columbarium for our parents. That is the headache on our part but no complaints, as much as we kena punished the way ktard strawberries despised, he still provided to all of us amply that we all are free in the world - at the cost of his finances.

So how the hell is that comment sus-able? That fiasco happens because of type C with this egoistic claim 'at least we work hard at at it' when its never the case, while monopolizing anything that brings in money that eventually troubles every single race in the universe.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 8 2024, 04:47 PM)
there is no profit or loss
land itself is not free
and somebody has to fund the land part...for both buying the land and maintaining it
that's why chinese has qingming

burial in HK now so expensive is because of land issue....the funeral part is very cheap
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Quick question, who usually maintain the gazetted cemeteries land plot for nons?

Have passed by quite a few that looks to be like government-designated burial ground, but they always look not well taken care of / rather abandoned compared to private cemeteries.
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QUOTE(keybearer @ Aug 8 2024, 03:54 PM)
Quick question, who usually maintain the gazetted cemeteries land plot for nons?

Have passed by quite a few that looks to be like government-designated burial ground, but they always look not well taken care of / rather abandoned compared to private cemeteries.
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i cannot say as a whole lah ah
but it's usually the landowner who took care of it, they have a management team

the cheaper one...at least in sabah, one of which my father is placed is owned under MCA
so MCA subsidized it, they have a management team on it which maintain the place

other i don't really know, which is why some are more well taken care than others
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melayu tiap2 tahun bayar duit khairat kematian la

kalao tak bayar tu kalo mati kena bayar ribu2 jugak kat masjid

tanah perkuburan bawah majlis agama islam negeri

banyak tanah masjid dan tanah kubur asalnya adalah tanah persendirian yang diwakafkan
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Aug 8 2024, 03:07 PM)
not really

moden Gen Z type-C wouldn't oppose to the idea of ashes being casted at sea, river, space, etc

some even open to the idea of donating their bodies to medical school

meanwhile bangsa syurgo can only have land burial, until SG govt have to priotize their needs at the expense of the majority there ...
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The problem is not you not caring about your own funeral.

The problem is can you throw your daddy and mummy into sea, river, space, etc.

When it comes to your turn, the headache is on your kids not you. The money comes from your kids not from you.
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QUOTE(keybearer @ Aug 8 2024, 03:54 PM)
Quick question, who usually maintain the gazetted cemeteries land plot for nons?

Have passed by quite a few that looks to be like government-designated burial ground, but they always look not well taken care of / rather abandoned compared to private cemeteries.
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Depends on the cemetery

The different Chinese clan associations, a specific church/temple, the faith denomination, sometimes a private benefactor

Because of this diverse range of ownership, maintenance can vary. Some clan association may have money, some specific church/temple may have no money, others like the Jewish cemetery in Penang are maintained by a Indian family for 3 generations
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Many becomes hungry ghost due to no proper burial.

Please plan yourself not to become hungry ghost.

Owaiii...
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type c je yang pening pasal mati
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type m pun pening bang...pening dia datang kemudian hari...
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Many becomes hungry ghost due to no proper burial.

Please plan yourself not to become hungry ghost.

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Nearly free.
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cina dont have free burial land?
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Cina where got free things one.

Before die use normal note, die edy need hell bank notes in hell also




I still dont understand the purpose of hell bank notes

Use it to bribe the hell officer?

Use it to buy what? Pump petrol for the paper alfart & masili?

Anyone asked this before or all just follow and burn?
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Anyone asked this before or all just follow and burn?
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the youngsters today are all asking it
it doesn't make sense at all
only old people believe bulat2
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QUOTE(amboi_asamboi @ Aug 8 2024, 04:19 PM)
Cina where got free things one.

Before die use normal note, die edy need hell bank notes in hell also


I still dont understand the purpose of hell bank notes

Use it to bribe the hell officer?

Use it to buy what? Pump petrol for the paper alfart & masili?

Anyone asked this before or all just follow and burn?
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 8 2024, 04:21 PM)
the youngsters today are all asking it
it doesn't make sense at all
only old people believe bulat2
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Don't forget this: https://www.businessinsider.com/qingming-ba...es-masks-2022-4
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Type-C afterlife is rough: dead already still need to be concerned about the pandemics of the living
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Dafuq sus-ed? This statement is so factual. Had same headache too, and its own father.

Dude just sat us kids down and told us that he did not standby his funeral plot and requested us to settle for him in case anything happened, so now all siblings (except one pai ka seng) are surveying those Nirvana package to get a twin ash columbarium for our parents. That is the headache on our part but no complaints, as much as we kena punished the way ktard strawberries despised, he still provided to all of us amply that we all are free in the world - at the cost of his finances.

So how the hell is that comment sus-able? That fiasco happens because of type C with this egoistic claim 'at least we work hard at at it' when its never the case, while monopolizing anything that brings in money that eventually troubles every single race in the universe.
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Don't forget this: https://www.businessinsider.com/qingming-ba...es-masks-2022-4
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Type-C afterlife is rough: dead already still need to be concerned about the pandemics of the living
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Covid?

Lol

Got anyone burn viagra or condom?


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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 11:57 AM)
type c je yang pening pasal mati
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Covid?

Lol

Got anyone burn viagra or condom?
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1) Sendiri baca artikel

2) Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me

3) But I give my ancestors "gold ingots". Let them choose themselves.
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QUOTE(dark_paladin @ Aug 8 2024, 04:26 PM)
Normal la bro..mana2 got people like this. Skit2 report/sus. Hati x boleh terguris sikit. Don't matter if Melayu ker Cina ker India ker Mat Saleh or lain2. layan jer
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What you say is somewhat true, but in /k hati type C paling senang terguris. Fakta sikit terus melolong mangsa.
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 12:57 PM)
type c je yang pening pasal mati
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I thought can just incinerate?
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not to kecam as a whole but the concept behind it make sense
but the way it's delivered doesn't at all

the simplest example is, ok...the dead need money at the afterworld....this is the part that make sense
the part that doesn't make sense is everything after like if i burn it, how do i know he/she received it? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 11:57 AM)
type c je yang pening pasal mati
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What you say is somewhat true, but in /k hati type C paling senang terguris. Fakta sikit terus melolong mangsa.
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Not as if non-type-c are any less paling senang terguris
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I thought can just incinerate?
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Technically yes

But 3 day wake costs, elaborate ceremonies including prayers during wake, good feng shui place for columbarium add all up and you get an unnecessary bomb.

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not to kecam as a whole but the concept behind it make sense
but the way it's delivered doesn't at all

the simplest example is, ok...the dead need money at the afterworld....this is the part that make sense
the part that doesn't make sense is everything after like if i burn it, how do i know he/she received it? hmm.gif
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Those with Christian faith no need to worry about those things anymore.
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Bury backyard free.
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Also technically not legal (or hygienic)
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Aug 8 2024, 04:04 PM)
The problem is not you not caring about your own funeral.

The problem is can you throw your daddy and mummy into sea, river, space, etc.

When it comes to your turn, the headache is on your kids not you. The money comes from your kids not from you.
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Why not ?

I've already discussed my funeral arrangements with my kids and reminded them to claim death benefits from epf too.
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Aug 8 2024, 04:38 PM)
Technically yes

But 3 day wake costs, elaborate ceremonies including prayers during wake, good feng shui place for columbarium add all up and you get an unnecessary bomb.
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If poor just go govt crematorium few hundred only
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No backyard how?

Also technically not legal (or hygienic)
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Technically yes

But 3 day wake costs, elaborate ceremonies including prayers during wake, good feng shui place for columbarium add all up and you get an unnecessary bomb.
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Let's say parents religious but kids closeted atheist, when parents die the kids do all the ceremonies?
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Aug 8 2024, 04:04 PM)
The problem is not you not caring about your own funeral.

The problem is can you throw your daddy and mummy into sea, river, space, etc.

When it comes to your turn, the headache is on your kids not you. The money comes from your kids not from you.
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Headache onlyi if u wan bangala. I see someone said apa faktual type c like he live in all chinese hsehold. Spouting nonsense like shit.

Those with headache is those with no money but wan everything fancy.

My unker die..funeral normal no fancy cremated ashes buy cheapest place. Nothing fancy nothing expensive. Not only my unker..tons of ppl i saw passed away all type c nothing fancy nothing expensive just simple funeral cremation etc
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Aug 8 2024, 04:57 PM)
Why not ?

I've already discussed my funeral arrangements with my kids and reminded them to claim death benefits from epf too.
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It will be difficult when the time comes. Guilt, sadness whatever.

Maybe an easy way of thinking will be this: if it were your father/mother, will you be willing to? even if they told you to go ahead.

Probably the only way to force it will be to put it into your will lol, throw me into the sea or else you get nothing lol.
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QUOTE(party @ Aug 8 2024, 05:47 PM)
Headache onlyi if u wan bangala. I see someone said apa faktual type c like he live in all chinese hsehold. Spouting nonsense like shit.

Those with headache is those with no money but wan everything fancy.

My unker die..funeral normal no fancy cremated ashes buy cheapest place. Nothing fancy nothing expensive. Not only my unker..tons of ppl i saw passed away all type c nothing fancy nothing expensive just simple funeral cremation etc
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I already mentioned before, the fella that died couldn't care less lol. The only problem is the family.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Aug 8 2024, 05:49 PM)
It will be difficult when the time comes. Guilt, sadness whatever.

Maybe an easy way of thinking will be this: if it were your father/mother, will you be willing to? even if they told you to go ahead.

Probably the only way to force it will be to put it into your will lol, throw me into the sea or else you get nothing lol.
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Seriously, you need to think of death as a natural event and not something to avoid.

My dad talked to me before he died and I threw his ashes into South China Sea. Told my kids just offer my body as a cadaver after any organs can be donated. Then dispose anywhere, eg plant fertilizer.

Must live life to the fullest and spend time with loved ones. After death, the body is no longer important.
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Aug 8 2024, 05:58 PM)
Seriously, you need to think of death as a natural event and not something to avoid.

My dad talked to me before he died and I threw his ashes into South China Sea. Told my kids just offer my body as a cadaver after any organs can be donated. Then dispose anywhere, eg plant fertilizer.

Must live life to the fullest and spend time with loved ones. After death, the body is no longer important.
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Good for you.

The problem isn't the old guy. As I have repeated many times, the old guy is gone, the end. No post credits scene. What happens after is of no consequence to him. The problem is with the family.

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Unfortunately, we don't live in a vacuum, people and kids can be cruel and insensitive.

If you can handle it that's great. Even better if you have trained your kids to handle it with grace.
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Let's say parents religious but kids closeted atheist, when parents die the kids do all the ceremonies?
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Usually will do unless charsiew. My grandparents also I go with the flow. when my mom passed as the eldest I had to lead the prayers not that I understood what they were chanting kek. More for keeping relatives happy than anything.
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Let's say parents religious but kids closeted atheist, when parents die the kids do all the ceremonies?
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I will do it for my parents, anyway parents got simpan banyak duit for their own burials.

As for me, sila ambil body buat medic students practise bedah bedah.
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People are buying lots in Nirvana and reselling them like properties nowadays...

ayamz got see the agent before when follow them go visit outlet... they so excited to show... me this is theirs new home later on... topkek.. and show me another the agent bought.. say this is for 'investment'. will sell later for higher price to whom want the lot...

Ppl dying is gonna be a very good business in years to come as we're moving towards an aging society...

making money from the dead is gonna be very profitable...
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type c kawin n mati need to be grand
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https://helpdesk.mysejahtera.malaysia.gov.m...ra-application-

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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 12:04 PM)
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unker long plan go klang river and die there,
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QUOTE(Enjoise @ Aug 8 2024, 07:52 PM)
type c kawin n mati need to be grand
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better edit that or u will be incumbing gone later just like first page

oh wai………….

lel
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huat ah
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Srs question
Ekceli why y'all need to spend a lot in death ah? Is there some sort of objective goal behind it?
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Srs question
Ekceli why y'all need to spend a lot in death ah? Is there some sort of objective goal behind it?
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Usually will do unless charsiew. My grandparents also I go with the flow. when  my mom passed as the eldest I had to lead the prayers not that I understood what they were chanting kek. More for keeping relatives happy than anything.
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Good kid, I'm sure your late mom appreciated it. Stay strong bro
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QUOTE(billylks @ Aug 8 2024, 08:06 PM)
I will do it for my parents, anyway parents got simpan banyak duit for their own burials.

As for me, sila ambil body buat medic students practise bedah bedah.
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Malaysia got body donations? Good on you for planning to contribute to science and future doctors!
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Aug 8 2024, 06:24 PM)
Good for you.

The problem isn't the old guy. As I have repeated many times, the old guy is gone, the end. No post credits scene. What happens after is of no consequence to him. The problem is with the family.

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Unfortunately, we don't live in a vacuum, people and kids can be cruel and insensitive.

If you can handle it that's great. Even better if you have trained your kids to handle it with grace.
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lol, post got reported

if you can't even stomach something from random nobodies in an internet forum, how do you expect to be able to handle the criticism from "well meaning friends and family"?
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Good kid, I'm sure your late mom appreciated it. Stay strong bro
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Seriously, not cheap at all. Just bought mine last year, double burial plot. Plot itself already 92k. If include tombstone and etc, total cost is almost 150k. And this is not even the highest range one. Its just a normal plot.

The funeral service also i bought for 2 pax for 70k. Imagine, total cost for us to go is around 200k.
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QUOTE(gogocan @ Aug 8 2024, 12:11 PM)
Serious question..if family no money for burial what the worse can happen? Surely govt won't let the deceased rot without proper burial right.
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Chinese tradition collect white gold during funeral to help the deceased family. When it's other family turn the deceased family repay back the favor.

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Aug 8 2024, 09:58 PM)
Seriously, not cheap at all. Just bought mine last year, double burial plot. Plot itself already 92k. If include tombstone and etc, total cost is almost 150k. And this is not even the highest range one. Its just a normal plot.

The funeral service also i bought for 2 pax for 70k. Imagine, total cost for us to go is around 200k.
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I buy condo onli RM30k+ for twin sharing lol. But quite many years back, I think >10 years liao.

Funeral package didn't buy. Let the kids figure that one out. Don't want to do anything, just cremate and move into condo.
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 12:05 PM)
hahaha
type c bukan jenis mudah chill ke?
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sus lol
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lol /k demographic full of old farts. our hobby is reading obituaries to see if there is anybody we know.
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Aug 8 2024, 10:05 PM)
I buy condo onli RM30k+ for twin sharing lol. But quite many years back, I think >10 years liao.

Funeral package didn't buy. Let the kids figure that one out. Don't want to do anything, just cremate and move into condo.
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30k condo with aircond? Then its very cheap.

For package, i would recommend you to buy so you wont trouble your kids. Not the money issue, but more on the hassle when the time comes. When we pass away, for sure kids will be very panic and duno what to do. I learn this the hard way. There are really really many things to do when we pass away. Need to register here and there, contact ppl, make police report and etc with an unstable emotion.

If you have the package, then it will helps a lot. The person will come and settle almost everything for u. Just my 2 cents smile.gif
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Coming generation need pay installment for father mother grave
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Aug 8 2024, 10:08 PM)
30k condo with aircond? Then its very cheap.

For package, i would recommend you to buy so you wont trouble your kids. Not the money issue, but more on the hassle when the time comes. When we pass away, for sure kids will be very panic and duno what to do. I learn this the hard way. There are really really many things to do when we pass away. Need to register here and there, contact ppl, make police report and etc with an unstable emotion.

If you have the package, then it will helps a lot. The person will come and settle almost everything for u. Just my 2 cents  smile.gif
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We did think a lot about that. But I think at that time, we were undecided because we didn't want to make our kids feel like they were forced into doing it. Also, both of them were young at that time, donno if they were going to work in Malaysia or move elsewhere.

So we ended up doing the minimum, just cremate and a place to put the ashes. As for the funeral service, suka hati depa la. I think my wife picked out the clothes and the pictures, but that's about it I think.

Hopefully, the funeral parlor guys will be like tow truck operators in a car accident lol. In an accident these guys will reach faster than any ambulance or police car.
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QUOTE(Enjoise @ Aug 8 2024, 07:52 PM)
type c kawin n mati need to be grand
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Mostly no. Only those who believe in that sort of stuff actually benefit the departed
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Aug 8 2024, 09:42 PM)
lol, post got reported

if you can't even stomach something from random nobodies in an internet forum, how do you expect to be able to handle the criticism from "well meaning friends and family"?
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Why would anyone report an interesting discussion.
Your viewpoints are valid
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Why would anyone report an interesting discussion.
Your viewpoints are valid
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who knows.

but the truth is sometimes not easy to hear.

we are not religious types, but my wife and I bought a spot at the columbarium for ourselves so that our kids will not be asked these questions.

anybody ask, "oh, they prepared everything earlier"
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I told my waifu to just cremate my body and dump the ashes into sea or river.

She asked whether can throw into longkang.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Aug 9 2024, 12:33 AM)
I told my waifu to just cremate my body and dump the ashes into sea or river.

She asked whether can throw into longkang.
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Throw to longkang? Such irresponsible sohai. No wonder so many longkang kena clogged.

I just ask my wife to just feed my body to my dog. Much more useful.
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QUOTE(WyjSwmW @ Aug 9 2024, 12:42 AM)
Throw to longkang? Such irresponsible sohai. No wonder so many longkang kena clogged.

I just ask my wife to just feed my body to my dog. Much more useful.
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Kasi chan...not everyday you have people throwing body ashes unto longkang kot. The average longkang outside any coffee shop is as yucky as they come.


Maybe tapau and throw with kitchen garbage. Free burial in landfill. Or second cremation if garbage is incinerated.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Aug 9 2024, 12:33 AM)
I told my waifu to just cremate my body and dump the ashes into sea or river.

She asked whether can throw into longkang.
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You said can or not?
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QUOTE(haya @ Aug 8 2024, 01:05 PM)
Yes

No limitation in how much non-Muslims can will their estate to Muslims

Nak beri 100% pun boleh
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Don't mean to be racist. But doesn't this sound a bit loop sided/unfair?
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I told my waifu to just cremate my body and dump the ashes into sea or river.

She asked whether can throw into longkang.
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She just joking & playful or she hates u?

Then u should ask the next question

“If i die tomorrow, will u remarry?”
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Aug 9 2024, 12:33 AM)
I told my waifu to just cremate my body and dump the ashes into sea or river.

She asked whether can throw into longkang.
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Klang River acceptable?
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DBKL charge RM100 for cremation, cheap cheap saja.
Dunno got naik harga or not.


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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Aug 8 2024, 09:58 PM)
Seriously, not cheap at all. Just bought mine last year, double burial plot. Plot itself already 92k. If include tombstone and etc, total cost is almost 150k. And this is not even the highest range one. Its just a normal plot.

The funeral service also i bought for 2 pax for 70k. Imagine, total cost for us to go is around 200k.
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Why spend so much on something that doesn't matter at all? In 200 years no one will remember you.

Rather spend the 150k for overseas travel to 10 different countries.

QUOTE(mushigen @ Aug 9 2024, 12:33 AM)
I told my waifu to just cremate my body and dump the ashes into sea or river.

She asked whether can throw into longkang.
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How about toilet bowl like how I clear my Dyson dusts

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QUOTE(gashout @ Aug 9 2024, 06:05 AM)
Why spend so much on something that doesn't matter at all? In 200 years no one will remember you.

Rather spend the 150k for overseas travel to 10 different countries.
How about toilet bowl like how I clear my Dyson dusts
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Same logic ma, why spend 150k for traveling? After travel, you gsin nothing but 150k is gone.
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Same logic ma, why spend 150k for traveling? After travel, you gsin nothing but 150k is gone.
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Aug 9 2024, 07:10 AM)
Same logic ma, why spend 150k for traveling? After travel, you gsin nothing but 150k is gone.
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Eh traveling atleast you got peace of mind, experience new culture new friend maybe new knowledge

But when u dead , what you pay is for the extravaganza cost does not get you anything actually

You dead .

Its better to use that big amount of money somewhere else

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Serious question, if I don't buy a burial plot and make funeral arrangements for when I die, what are the consequences to me? I have no kids, no gf, no wife, no friends, no family, so the gov can't come after anyone and ask them to pay for me. The police can't come after me and try to lock me up coz I'm already dead. I don't care what happens to my body after I die since it doesn't concern me anymore. I don't see the point in wasting all that money for stuff that happens after I die and festivities that I won't even get to partake in. Might as well go cheong or travel.
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QUOTE(h4r8_kIlLeR @ Aug 8 2024, 05:46 PM)
Let's say parents religious but kids closeted atheist, when parents die the kids do all the ceremonies?
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Aug 8 2024, 06:43 PM)
Usually will do unless charsiew. My grandparents also I go with the flow. when  my mom passed as the eldest I had to lead the prayers not that I understood what they were chanting kek. More for keeping relatives happy than anything.
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QUOTE(billylks @ Aug 8 2024, 07:06 PM)
I will do it for my parents, anyway parents got simpan banyak duit for their own burials.

As for me, sila ambil body buat medic students practise bedah bedah.
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Usually no problem one, just go with the flow.

Unless like one of my relatives last time her family side from Jehovah char siew. Tak mau join praying session, nevermind. But i think macam cannot cry or grief also...muka berseri-seri...

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Maybe in the future, will have mass burial program in condo area.
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People don't even want to buy properties near/opposite grave sites. You think they want to buy a condo that has a gravesite in it?
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Aug 9 2024, 01:11 AM)
Don't mean to be racist. But doesn't this sound a bit loop sided/unfair?
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First day in Malaysia?

Why do the non's view the introduction of Sharia law in Malaysia? Is it because this is how Islamic law works?
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40 to 80K for burial plot?! better buy a car and burn the corpse inside it
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Aug 9 2024, 12:33 AM)
I told my waifu to just cremate my body and dump the ashes into sea or river.

She asked whether can throw into longkang.
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QUOTE(WyjSwmW @ Aug 9 2024, 12:42 AM)
Throw to longkang? Such irresponsible sohai. No wonder so many longkang kena clogged.

I just ask my wife to just feed my body to my dog. Much more useful.
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Frequent floods in Bandar Sri Damansara caused by blocked drains, uneven ground
By HAZEL TAN YAN LING
Metro News
Thursday, 08 Aug 2024

PARTS of Jalan Kepong-Kuala Selangor in Bandar Sri Damansara, Selangor, experience frequent flash floods because of uneven terrain and clogged drains.

The uneven terrain causes water to flow into lower-lying areas, leading to flash floods that affect shops and a Hindu temple along the roadside.

During a press conference, local activist Yee Poh Ping said despite several drain outlets at the side of the road, they were ineffective as sand and rubbish had clogged the drains.

He said drain water flowed from a nearby industrial area in Persiaran Jati on the Damansara-Puchong Expressway (LDP) whenever there was heavy rain.

“With so much water coming at once, the shallow drains can no longer contain the large volume of water.

“Floodwaters can be 0.3m deep, causing traffic disruption for cars coming from Selayang, Taman Daya, Batu Caves, Sri Gombak and Kepong,” he said.

Yee also said the road fell under several jurisdictions, including Public Works Department (JKR), Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL), Selayang Municipal Council (MPS) and Petaling Jaya City Council (MBPJ).

It is a no-man’s land, as the regulations and policies of local governments in our country are inconsistent.

“This results in many problems that cannot be properly solved.

“People cannot determine which road sections are under whose jurisdiction and are unable to lodge complaints to the right department.

“The authorities should have a discussion together to figure out a solution, instead of leaving it as it is,” he said.

Yee suggested both short-term and long-term solutions.

“JKR needs to regularly clean and maintain the drains.

“If the problem persists after clearing the drains, consideration should be given to relocating the shops along the road to a suitable location and adding more drains in the area to completely solve the flooding problem,” he added.

Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/metro-news...s-uneven-ground

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QUOTE(keybearer @ Aug 8 2024, 03:43 PM)
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Very seldom more than 2k all-in. Even then unheard of for people to not have enough money, since even local gomen will give aid to fund it for the needy.
https://www.selangor.gov.my/petaling.php/pa...iew/310?mid=171

Also we're taught that burying the dead is an obligation of the whole community, so people won't just 'leave' any body unattended and chances are people would still do it regardless without pay.

Anyway latip post liddat also kena sus?  sweat.gif
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Mana masok syurgo punya harga?
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QUOTE(gashout @ Aug 9 2024, 06:05 AM)
Why spend so much on something that doesn't matter at all? In 200 years no one will remember you.

Rather spend the 150k for overseas travel to 10 different countries.
How about toilet bowl like how I clear my Dyson dusts
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Mana enough 10 countries wor. I went Japan already 40k
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a cost free way - pledge to donate your body to science / medical school. brows.gif
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QUOTE(arshad @ Aug 9 2024, 08:21 AM)
Mana enough 10 countries wor. I went Japan already 40k
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QUOTE(aziratul @ Aug 9 2024, 07:37 AM)
Eh traveling atleast you got peace of mind, experience new culture new friend maybe new knowledge

But when u dead , what you pay is for the extravaganza cost does not get you anything actually

You dead .

Its better to use that big amount of money somewhere else

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It is a Si Tanggang thing versi type C.

In the olden days in China, it was even worse. The whole family is expected to mourn for months or years when the elderly passes. That is for orang marhaen. Emperor can even ask for people to be buried with him.

The many days required for the wake is usually because back in olden China, they had to allow enough days for the family to gather to pay their final respects. It is not for showing off.

It is much reduced nowadays. Give it a few more generations and it should reduce even more. But for now, expectations are such that if your kids do nothing, your kids will need to prepare to kena kecam.

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QUOTE(aziratul @ Aug 9 2024, 07:37 AM)
Eh traveling atleast you got peace of mind, experience new culture new friend maybe new knowledge

But when u dead , what you pay is for the extravaganza cost does not get you anything actually

You dead .

Its better to use that big amount of money somewhere else

Topkek
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Hmmm, ok, I don’t blame you though. This is the type of reply I would expect from the foreveralones in /k.
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Malaysia got body donations?  Good on you for planning to contribute to science and future doctors!
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HANDING OVER TO UNIVERSITIES OF ACADEMIC PURPOSES

The criteria for the suitability of a body to be donated to universities for learning or research purposes are as follows:

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The BODY IS NOT THAT OF A MUSLIM

The body remains unclaimed for more than 14 days.

The deceased, during their lifetime or their next of kin, does not object to the body being used for educational or medical research purposes.

It does not involve bodies that are the subject of post-mortem examination or those involved in inquests or investigations related to deaths under the Criminal Procedure Code.

There is no living next of kin to claim the body from the Forensic Medicine Department/Unit.

The procedure for handing over the body to university authorities follows the Circular of the Director-General of Health No. 5/2008 Guidelines for the Handing Over of Unclaimed

Bodies in Ministry of Health Hospitals to Local University Faculties for Educational or Medical Research Purposes.
SAUCE: http://myhealth.moh.gov.my/en/management-o...claimed-bodies/

cheap2 way to manage dead body - give to university - FOR SCIENCE !! biggrin.gif
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a cost free way - pledge to donate your body to science / medical school.  brows.gif
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I told my family, if i die just cremate me. No need funeral or post on social media about me passed away, save their money. Scatter my ash at the sea then sell off the urn, we already struggling so no need to spend too much for my death.
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QUOTE(amboi_asamboi @ Aug 9 2024, 01:30 AM)
She just joking & playful or she hates u?

Then u should ask the next question

“If i die tomorrow, will u remarry?”
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Joking...I hope. But I won't mind as I'm dead anyway. If she remarries, I sincerely hope the next guy treats her well.

QUOTE(differ @ Aug 9 2024, 02:39 AM)
Klang River acceptable?
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I don't think she wants to go there. The last time I changed tyres at kilang papan, she kept asking why take all the trouble.

QUOTE(gashout @ Aug 9 2024, 06:05 AM)
How about toilet bowl like how I clear my Dyson dusts
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Sked drainage plugged.

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Mana masok syurgo punya harga?
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QUOTE(United Rulez @ Aug 9 2024, 08:44 AM)
Usually no problem one, just go with the flow.

Unless like one of my relatives last time her family side from Jehovah char siew.  Tak mau join praying session, nevermind.   But i think macam cannot cry or grief also...muka berseri-seri...
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Cannot grief? Need put smiling face so that the spirit can go in peace not tethered to the world?

Also I wonder if atheist kids will buy the paper bangalow / Mercedes for their dead parents

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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Aug 8 2024, 12:05 PM)
hahaha
type c bukan jenis mudah chill ke?
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Kesian kena sus ke

Majority c chill, tapi mesti ada segelintir yg ada hati tisu
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Mana masok syurgo punya harga?
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Kalau Mati mahal, jangan Mati lah. Itu pun tak faham.

Atau simpan duit awal awal lah utk Mati. Rancang bila Dan kat mana nak Mati. Haa Kan selesai masalah.
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hahaha
type c bukan jenis mudah chill ke?
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Type c more flexible, can do any type of burial, it's just budget problem

 

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