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AFAIK, around 2012, the government instructed TM HSBB Fibre to give access to other ISPs like Astro, Maxis and Digi, as per MSAP terms.
....... Thereafter, Maxis began contracting with housing developers to exclusively lay Maxis fibre cables in their new Taman/s, in order to have a captive market, but Maxis's "backhaul" connection to the Internet for their "exclusive" new Taman/s was still via TM HSBB Fibre network. Before that, most old/existing Taman/s had TM fibre cables deployed in their backlanes whose residents might subscribe to ISPs other than TM Unifi Fibre if there were available ports. Eg .......

https://www.maxis.com.my/ms/about-maxis/new...omes-in-melaka/ - Maxis dan Teladan Setia bekerjasama untuk membawa kesalinghubungan fiber ke lebih ramai penduduk Melaka
23 Mar 2022

- Perkongsian bakal membawa kesalinghubungan fiber ke lebih 2,100 penduduk di Taman Bertam Heights, Melaka
- Memanfaatkan binaan fiber Maxis untuk membawa kesalinghubungan yang lancar melalui pelan Maxis Home Fibre setelah serahan milikan kosong
- Pelan Maxis Home Fibre menawarkan kelajuan pantas sehingga 800Mbps dan pengalaman WiFi yang dipertingkatkan

IOW, Maxis does not has it's own HSBB Fibre network like TM.

TIME Fibre mostly services many condos and apartments, not TM Unifi Fibre. Was this by government arrangement.?
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https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ile-says-fahmi/ - 2024/11/09 - mcmc-can-impose-additional-conditions-on-u-mobile-says-fahmi
CYBERJAYA: The Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) has the right to impose additional conditions on U Mobile Sdn Bhd before granting them the spectrum to operate the country’s second 5G network, says communications minister Fahmi Fadzil.

He said these conditions are necessary to maintain balance and ensure healthy competition among telecommunications companies (telcos).

“This is standard procedure. We must distinguish between the criteria for selection and the conditions for spectrum allocation. ...

Emphasising that the additional conditions are designed to ensure effective collaboration between U Mobile and Digital Nasional Bhd (DNB), Fahmi added a similar approach was taken with Celcom Digi Bhd during their merger in 2022.

“When Celcom and Digi merged, MCMC imposed conditions, including the return of some spectrum.

“If U Mobile plans to collaborate with other telcos to develop the country’s second 5G network, MCMC will apply similar conditions,” he said. ....
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As per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Nasional ..., MCMC has allotted DNB1 ....
200MHz for mid-band 3.5GHz (= 4Gbps of bandwidth),
80MHz for low-band 700MHz (= 1.6Gbps of bandwidth) and
1600MHz for high-band/mmWave 28Ghz (not used by most of the masses),
which bandwidth DNB1 has been selling to the 5 celcos, eg Maxis is paying RM360 million per year per 1,000 cell towers for 1Gbps of 5G access while the other celcos are paying RM288 million per year (= fewer cell towers). This is besides the upfront (deposit) payment of RM230 million per celco for 5G access.

With DNB2 or U Mobile deploying it's 5G infrastructure soon, what will happen to the above 5G spectrum.?, let's say if TM Unifi Mobile and Maxis will decide to dump DNB1 next year and collaborate with DNB2 via a cheaper RAN agreement.? Re-allotment.?
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https://theedgemalaysia.com/node/698751 - MRCB, Berjaya Land and IJM confirm in consortium to bid for KL-Singapore HSR project - 26 Jan 2024

https://www.maxis.com.my/en/about-maxis/new...nt-development/ - Maxis partners IJM Perennial and GlobalComm to deliver integrated connectivity and smart city solutions to Penang’s latest iconic waterfront development
19 Aug 2024

So, how come Maxis did not get the 5G DNB2 contract.?

How come CelcomDigi, a well-connected GLC, also did not get.?

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https://soyacincau.com/2024/11/06/mcmc-why-...network-tender/ - 2024/11/06 - MCMC explains why U Mobile was picked to roll out Malaysia’s second 5G network
= was MCMC lying.?, as alleged by the newswav article above.?
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Maybe MCMC has reserved DNB1 to be taken over by CelcomDigi and Maxis who both have deep pockets to fund DNB1.
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Nov 19 2024, 04:55 PM

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Latest related news update: .......

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...ster-says-fahmi - 2024/11/27 - 'Horrifying and concerning': DNB's dealings a mystery when I became minister, says Fahmi
.... Fahmi was responding to Hassan Abdul Karim (PH-Pasir Gudang), who had asked about claims that [the previous Perikatan Nasional coalition, led by then-prime minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin, allocated RM16.5bil of taxpayer money for the first 5G network rollout through DNB.

Fahmi said he could not explain DNB further as it was now under the Digital Ministry’s purview. ...

= DNB1 and DNB2 are now under Digital Ministry or Gobind Singh Deo. Was the recent award of DNB2 to U Mobile decided solely by the Digital Ministry or by MCMC.?
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https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...der-says-gobind - 2024/11/28 - DNB -audit-reveals-all-dealings-in-order-says-gobind
.... Gobind said the RM16.5bil funds to DNB were for a 10-year period and did not fully involve government funds.

He said government funds only involved a RM500mil equity injection in 2021 and a shareholder loan of RM450mil from the Minister of Finance Inc in May 2023.

“As of 2024, DNB has also spent as much as RM5 bil for developing and maintaining its 5G network,” he said.

“Apart from that, DNB’s expenditure was carried out through private loans, including banks and other sources,” he added.

Gobind added that government funds in DNB as well as bank loans, would be taken over by telecommunications companies and later paid to the government as part of the transition process to the dual-network 5G model.

“In other words, the government will still be paid by telcos and clearly shows that it will not sustain any losses,” he said.

Gobind said 41 projects worth RM51.8mil were awarded by DNB this year through a tender process.

“We always emphasise transparency when it comes to any steps taken by DNB,” he said, adding that it will continue being an industry player.

“I want to stress here, that we will investigate if there are any issues. We take an open approach,” Gobind added. ...


So far, DNB1 has spent RM5 billion to deploy 5G through a RM450 million loan from the government, the remainder from loans from banks, ... collected RM1.165 billion from the 4 celcos as their 14% share subscription stake and charging each celco about RM300 million per year for 5G access (= RM1.5 billion in total).

DNB1 should have an operating expenses of about RM2 billion per year since it is not a normal celco which the latter usually has an op-ex of about RM4 billion per year, eg CelcomDigi has to pay thousands of staff to service it's subscribers.

DNB1 should need another RM2 billion (total deployment costs = RM7 billion) to achieve 99% coverage of all populated areas in Malaysia, including rural areas. At 5% interest rate, it cost DNB1 about RM300 million per year to slowly pay off the RM5.4 billion debt (after minus the celcos' share subscription injection of RM1,165 billion + RM450 million govt stake).

So, DNB1 needs to collect about RM2.3 billion per year from the celcos, in order to be sustainable.

Correct.?
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Nov 29 2024, 02:44 PM

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Related news: .......

https://www.msn.com/en-my/lifestyle/other/g...3deff81da&ei=39 - Gobind: No second 5G network until MOF gets their money back, DNB’s RM16.5 bil budget not funded by govt - 3 days ago
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Latests news update on DNB2: .......

https://www.klsescreener.com/v2/news/view/1...-to-mawar-setia - Confusion over Temasek's ST Telemedia stake size after it inks deal to pare down 'majority stake' in U Mobile to 20%
TheEdge Thu, Dec 05, 2024
.... The buyer of the stake is Mawar Setia Sdn Bhd — a company owned by Tan Sri Vincent Tan and Johor princess Tunku Tun Aminah Sultan Ibrahim. Mawar Setia was incorporated in April this year and is 70%-owned by Tan and 30% by Tun Aminah based on information retrieved from the Companies Commission of Malaysia (SSM). Tun Aminah is the only daughter of Malaysia’s King, Sultan Ibrahim.

The statement made no mention of the value of the stake to be sold. ...

AFAIK, Singapore's Temasek or ST Telemedia was the major shareholder = had management rights, in U Mobile.

After the above development, who will manage U Mobile and DNB2.?
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Could be related to .......

https://www.t-mobile.com/news/un-carrier/t-...ond-with-spacex - T‑Mobile Takes Coverage Above and Beyond With SpaceX
August 25, 2022
Companies share their vision to provide truly universal coverage, pairing SpaceX’s breakthrough satellite constellation with T‑Mobile’s industry‑leading wireless network

New service aims to connect vast majority of smartphones already on T‑Mobile’s network to Starlink satellites

Companies issue invitation to world’s carriers to expand globally with reciprocal roaming ...

https://www.t-mobile.com/business/industry-...in-remote-areas - business/industry-solutions/connected-vehicle-network/direct-to-cell-communications-in-remote-areas

https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/27/2430739...te-fcc-approval - 2024/11/27 - Starlink’s direct-to-cell satellite service is the first to receive FCC approval / The ball is now rolling to eliminate cell service ‘dead zones.’

= presently, T-Mobile and Starlink's Direct-to-Cell text-messaging service is only available to T-Mobile's Business subscribers who can use their smartphones to SMS/IMS even in very remote areas not covered by 4G/5G cell towers.
....... Later, it may be expanded to voice calls and Internet data.
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Latest News Update on DNB2: .......

https://www.lowyat.net/2025/341234/u-mobile...k-15-18-months/ - Vincent Tan: U Mobile To Launch Second 5G Network Within 15-18 Months
He also noted that the telco will conduct the rollout without assistance from local partners.
20 Jan 2025
U Mobile Sdn Bhd is optimistic about deploying Malaysia’s second 5G network independently within the next 15 to 18 months, according to chairman Tan Sri Vincent Tan. Speaking during a media briefing, he dismissed concerns about the company’s capability to undertake the project without government funding or local partners.

Tan highlighted plans to collaborate with Chinese telecommunications giants Huawei Technologies Co Ltd and ZTE Corp for equipment supply and financing. He noted that both companies are the best choices in terms of 5G technology, adding that U Mobile will rely on its capital expenditure and bank financing to support the rollout. However, details regarding the total capital required remain undisclosed. ...

On a related note, U Mobile last week announced the signing of a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with CIMB to secure financial support for its upcoming 5G network rollout. ....

= high value targets for the CCP like politicians, government executives, CEOs, professionals, business tycoons, journalists, etc should avoid DNB2 because it will be using Huawei and ZTE equipment from communist CCP China. Correct.? Got hidden backdoor spyware for the CCP.?

Ordinary folks = no-value targets for the CCP, should be OK using DNB2 but some of them should avoid visiting China bc the CCP can jail any foreign visitor who has vehemently condemned the CCP or Emperor Xi, like the Falungong, Serpentza, AMDKs, etc.
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jan 21 2025, 04:41 PM

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Are you saying DNB1's Ericsson equipment from Sweden has hidden backdoor spyware for the FBI.?
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My repost below fyi, .......

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=111093531

Also, recently, .......

https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/...asury-telecoms/ - US Sanctions Chinese Hackers for Treasury, Telecom Breaches - 20 Jan 2025
.... Responding to Escalating Chinese Hacks on US Infrastructure

The recent Treasury and Telecoms hacks highlight the “increasingly reckless” cyber activity by the People’s Republic of China (PRC) government and affiliated actors, OFAC said.

The latest sanctions follow several similar designations recently issued against individuals and companies connected with PRC-backed cyber-attacks on US targets. ...
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Example, ......

https://www.computerworld.com/article/17101...nt-edition.html - For real Windows 10 privacy, you need the China Government Edition - 12 June 2017
Windows 10 is infamous for having snooping baked in, but one government stood up for user privacy. Oh, the irony!

Because Windows doesn’t make much money for Microsoft these days, the company decided, beginning in Windows 10, that snooping on users à la Google and Facebook could be profitable. But one country said enough was enough. It would stand up for its users’ “privacy.” That country? The People’s Republic of China.

Cough. Didn’t see that one coming, did you?

Well, I say “privacy” because China is infamous for tracking its computer users and censoring the internet with the Great Firewall of China. But just because the powers that be in Beijing want to know every move their citizens make doesn’t mean they want Microsoft joining in on the spying.

So China gave Microsoft a choice: Rip out its snoopware, or forget about selling Windows 10 to government or enterprise customers. Microsoft, never known for turning down a dollar or a yuan, caved. ...
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Note that the US Constitution prohibits the powerful US government from spying or invading the privacy of her citizens except for law enforcement purposes, eg against terrorists, foreign spies, organized crime syndicates, pedophiles, etc, ... besides from restricting her citizens' right to freedom of religion, freedom to bear arms, freedom of speech, freedom of the Press, freedom to protest peacefully, freedom to pursue prosperity, etc.
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https://dgap.org/en/research/publications/i...lecoms-industry - DGAP Analysis - The Impact and Limits of Sanctions on Russia’s Telecoms Industry
Maria Kolomychenko - 12 March 2024
.... I explain how the Russian telecoms sector functions, the reasons behind its total reliance on Western technology, and how it manages to survive under sanctions. I then examine three vectors that the Russian telecommunications industry is currently pursuing in detail:

- The continuation of the purchase of advanced Western telecom equipment using so-called gray or parallel imports
- The search for new suppliers in Asia and the forging of stronger ties with second-tier (“tier 2”) suppliers from countries that have not joined export restrictions toward Russia
- Attempts to stimulate the production of domestic telecom equipment and the transition of telecom operators to its use

This analysis lays out why large telecom operators in Russia are not ready to risk their business and experiment with unknown equipment. Instead, they willingly take advantage of the government’s permission to “parallel import” the necessary equipment. As a result, despite the withdrawal of global vendors like Cisco, Nokia, and Ericsson from the Russian market, their equipment worth tens of millions of dollars is still supplied to Russia. While these are huge figures in absolute terms, far more is needed to fully meet the industry’s needs. ...
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So, how come Russia has been buying US$ millions of USA's Cisco equipment via parallel imports using 3rd-party countries like China and Israel.?
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Also, hidden kill switches =/= hidden backdoor spyware, and ...

"killing" subscription-based cloud services =/= hidden backdoor spyware.
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Fyi, .......

https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/lat...cl-co-comments/ - 17 Oct 2022
Author:
James Rogers, MarketWatch
Cisco ended operations in Russia, but its gear allegedly being shipped through China & other countries; incl. co. comments
Cisco gear is being shipped into Russia from China and other countries, leaked customs database shows, 17 October 2022

A purportedly leaked Russian customs database shows around 500 shipments of Cisco gear arriving in Russia in August, months after the networking giant halted its business operations in that country.

Information extracted from the database and shared with MarketWatch appears to show that Cisco Systems Inc. products entered Russia from a number of countries, with the majority of shipments coming from China. Other countries of origin include Vietnam, Switzerland, Mexico, Malaysia, Australia, Thailand and Holland, as well as the U.S., according to the data.

In the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February, a host of major U.S. corporations, including Cisco, ended their Russian operations...

“On March 3, 2022, Cisco announced stopping all business operations in Russia and Belarus, including sales and services,” a Cisco spokesperson told MarketWatch via email. “This included discontinuing business with all Cisco partners and distributors in Russia and Belarus, which means they can no longer source products via authorized channels.

“On June 23, we announced the decision to begin an orderly wind-down of our business in Russia and Belarus,” the Cisco spokesperson added. “Cisco stands by this decision”... ....
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/inside-the-gra...russia-23b60391 - Inside the Gray Market Keeping Cisco Tech in Stock in Russia
Nearly a year after it stopped selling routers and other equipment, Cisco’s gear remains easy to buy - 14 Feb 2023
Weeks after Moscow invaded Ukraine, tech giant Cisco Systems Inc. stopped all sales of its hardware into Russia, and Washington issued a series of broad sanctions against the country, including restricting the sale of Cisco equipment.

As the war approaches its first anniversary, that same gear is still easy to find at a range of retailers in Moscow. It is being supplied by a network of third-party vendors in places like Turkey and Asia that have sprung up without Cisco’s authorization and are largely out of reach of American enforcement.

The U.S. has chided countries like Turkey and China for supplying Russia with gear that is aiding Moscow’s war effort or cushioning the blow of Western sanctions. But Western goods—while greatly curtailed—are still pouring into the country, too.

Tracking how Cisco products still make it into the country helps take measure of the difficulty in isolating Russia economically.

From March to November, Russia imported $12.4 billion worth of goods subject to sanctions or export bans from the West, including the sort of telecommunications equipment that Cisco provides, according to an analysis of customs data from 31 countries by Brussels-based think tank Bruegel. ...
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Fyi, ie 2024 or earlier flagship 5G phones may need an OTA update for 5.5G or 5G-A support, (including Vivo X-Fold 3 and X100) .......

https://www.androidauthority.com/5g-advance...lained-3430001/ - What is 5G Advanced and when will it release? - 23 Oct 2024
.... The good news is that today’s hardware already seems ready for the initial launch of 5G Advanced or 5.5G. The OPPO Find X7 series packs Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 SoC with the company’s X75 5G modem. It stands to reason that flagship Android smartphones released in 2024 could also support the new network type with a future software update. However, it’s more likely that next-gen chips like the Snapdragon 8 Elite have been developed with 5G Advanced compatibility in mind and new phones will launch with out-of-the-box support.
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https://www.lowyat.net/2025/342164/u-mobile...rk-pending-dnb/ - Fahmi: U Mobile’s Second 5G Network Rollout Pending Fulfillment Of DNB Agreement
The process is expected to take at least five months before the second 5G network is deployed.
- 6 Feb 2025
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Latest News Update: .......

https://www.lowyat.net/2025/342535/dnb-rest...ond-5g-network/ - DNB Starts Restructuring As Malaysia Transitions To Dual 5G Network
The government will sell its stake in DNB to other telcos.
- 13 Feb 2025
.... The minister said that the government currently holds a 34.9% stake in DNB along with special shares, but as part of the transition, the government will be compensated for its shareholding as it will transfer the shares to the other telcos involved with DNB. Moreover, the government’s loan injection into DNB will be repaid by the telco firms along with interest charges while government-guaranteed loans will be refinanced to release the government from its guarantee obligation.

While no figure has been officially stated, analysts estimate that CelcomDigi, Maxis, and Yes could be paying RM394 million each to buy out U Mobile’s and the government’s equity stakes in DNB. U Mobile chairman Vincent Tan revealed last month that its second 5G network will be rolled out in 15 to 18 months as the company prepares to be publicly listed by the end of the year.

= DNB1 will be owned by CelcomDigi, Maxis and YES with the government holding a special/golden share that comes with veto rights.
= DNB2 will be owned solely by U Mobile.

= TM Unifi Mobile will likely be an MVNO for 5G/6G services from DNB1 or DNB2, maciam Tune Talk, OneXOX, etc.
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From the above post's news link, .......

PUTRAJAYA: U Mobile Sdn Bhd, pengendali rangkaian 5G kedua Malaysia, menyasarkan untuk mencapai 80 peratus liputan dalam tempoh 12 bulan selepas perkhidmatan itu mula dilancarkan bermula separuh kedua tahun ini. ...

Earliest 80% 5G coverage by DNB2 is July 2026 = U Mobile will transition their subscribers from DNB1 to DNB2.
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Note that Huawei/ZTE equipment may have hidden backdoor to the CCP in China. Eg .......

https://topjohnwu.medium.com/huaweis-undocu...es-c3a5dd71a7cd - Huawei’s Undocumented APIs — A Backdoor to Reinstall Google Services - 1 Oct 2019
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=111255595


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My repost above fyi, ie AFAIK, it is habitual for CCP China to do so because ALL companies in communist China have to toe the CCP line, or else they are "disappeared". Eg most CEOs of high tech companies in China have close ties to the CCP, eg Tencent CEO's father was a top CCP cadre in Southern China, Huawei's CEO was a PLA member and his elder brother was a CCP member.
....... CCP China are interested in spying on high value targets, not ordinary folks.

.... (CCP) China ordered airlines not to take further deliveries of Boeing Co. jets, according to people familiar with the matter. It marked Beijing’s latest move to retaliate against Trump’s decision to hike levies to as high as 145% on Chinese goods. ...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...-calm-trade-war - 2025-04-15 - trump-says-up-to-china-to-make-tariff-offer-to-calm-trade-war
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Apr 16 2025, 02:33 PM

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Fyi, Ericsson, Nokia and Samsung are not US companies.

CCP China, Huawei, ZTE, etc got rich in the 2010s by hacking Western companies to steal their advanced technology, like how a thief got rich by stealing from the wealthy.
....... At that time, why would USA and the West want to hack the then poor and backward CCP China, Huawei, ZTE, etc.?
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