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 Auctioned house has RM 21K unpaid TNB bill

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vhs
post Jan 7 2024, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(sprix @ Jan 7 2024, 01:21 PM)
Aik.. why tnb so generous one? Normally will cut after exceed depo..
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From past experiences, TNB will not cut the meter even when the debt exceed deposit. Why TNB is willing to do that, don't know. But that is what happens out there and that's why you keep seeing TNB debts in thousands or tens of thousands.

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post Jan 7 2024, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:41 PM)
then those register the TNB account under the tenants name is just a gimmick ???.. owner still liable to the bill ??.... might as well owner skip that process and take higher utility deposits,..
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Owner not legally liable for the bill. But won't get TNB service since meter already cut and won't get reconnected until bill settled. So can live in the house without legal obligations to TNB if one install solar and just run on solar and genset. But not many can do that lah.

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post Jan 7 2024, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(vhs @ Jan 7 2024, 02:10 PM)
Whoever has the need to use the house eventually have to bear the cost of reconnection. Legally the fee is owed by previous owner/tenant, but TNB cut the power just the same and won't reconnect until the debt is settled. So the new owner cannot wait forever so eventually is forced to pay.

If someone knows a trick that can convince TNB to reconnect the meter without clearing the past debt due to debt not owed by new owner, please share here. Asking for a friend. tongue.gif
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But the post by TS makes it seem like TNB waived the payment for new owner since it is a lelong unit.
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post Jan 7 2024, 02:21 PM

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really madafaker type one. before i have my own house, i oso rent house. before handing over key to owner i pay all bills. check apa barang rosak di rumah and get them all repaired.
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post Jan 7 2024, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(vhs @ Jan 7 2024, 02:12 PM)
From past experiences, TNB will not cut the meter even when the debt exceed deposit. Why TNB is willing to do that, don't know. But that is what happens out there and that's why you keep seeing TNB debts in thousands or tens of thousands.
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seriously, TNB just pemalas makan gaji buta......they just refuse to take any legal action on the owner who hutang bill, instead they will expect new owner to settle hutang which is easier n less hassle for TNB
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post Jan 7 2024, 02:22 PM

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Duduk free + tak nak bayar bill. Totally sampah penyewa.
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post Jan 7 2024, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Jan 7 2024, 02:15 PM)
But the post by TS makes it seem like TNB waived the payment for new owner since it is a lelong unit.
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Got a friend last time won lelong house and later found out bill shock of unpaid TNB bill which he was forced to bear. Coupled with other issues, he gave up on the house and prior payment all forfeited. So it will be nice to know how to convince TNB change owner means no longer need to pay the past bill if wanna reconnect the meter.

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post Jan 7 2024, 02:26 PM

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Macam ni saya pun tak nak bayar. Guna sampai mati pun boleh.
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post Jan 7 2024, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(ThirdSon @ Jan 7 2024, 01:17 PM)
wow! ini machiem pun ada kah
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install gate + lock
don't pay TNB bill
TNB can't suspend electricity
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PROFIT
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post Jan 7 2024, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Jan 7 2024, 02:15 PM)
But the post by TS makes it seem like TNB waived the payment for new owner since it is a lelong unit.
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QUOTE(vhs @ Jan 7 2024, 02:22 PM)
Got a friend last time won lelong house and later found out bill shock of unpaid TNB bill which he was forced to bear. Coupled with other issues, he gave up on the house and prior payment all forfeited. So it will be nice to know how to convince TNB change owner means no longer need to pay the past bill if wanna reconnect the meter.
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TNB can change name and start new account as long as you are the legal new owner.
The previous debt will always be accounted to the previous account bearer name be it ex owner or tenant name.
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post Jan 7 2024, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(vhs @ Jan 7 2024, 02:14 PM)
Owner not legally liable for the bill. But won't get TNB service since meter already cut and won't get reconnected until bill settled. So can live in the house without legal obligations to TNB if one install solar and just run on solar and genset. But not many can do that lah.
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then still the same,.. owner still liable,.. else can't even rent out or sendiri use the premise without electric,.. so change to tenant name or remain owner name,.. still the same consequences,..
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post Jan 7 2024, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jan 7 2024, 02:31 PM)
TNB can change name and start new account as long as you are the legal new owner.
The previous debt will always be accounted to the previous account bearer name be it ex owner or tenant name.
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boss, those who bought lelong house, if previous owner got maintenance bill arrears, new owner need to settle also right?
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post Jan 7 2024, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:19 PM)
if the account is under previous owner,.. then the bill should be bear by previous owner,.. new owner shouldn't bear previous owner debt,... if the account is under tenant name,.. then TNB should chase tenant,..
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This. That why all my rumah sewa bill under tenant. Not my name.
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post Jan 7 2024, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(pandah @ Jan 7 2024, 01:17 PM)
Tnb can't ask police to go together to the house to terminate the connection?
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Tnb don't care
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post Jan 7 2024, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ Jan 7 2024, 02:33 PM)
This. That why all my rumah sewa bill under tenant. Not my name.
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according to some,.. if tenant lari,.. the bill still under the address,.. so won't connect back the power supply,... until the bill is settle,.. so as the owner,.. u bayar or not ??.. if u not bayar cannot rent to other tenant,.. cos new tenant won't get electric even register as new account to your address,..,..
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post Jan 7 2024, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jan 7 2024, 02:33 PM)
boss, those who bought lelong house, if previous owner got maintenance bill arrears, new owner need to settle also right?
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Maintenance fees, cukai taksiran, etc will always tied down to the unit number.
Need to pay/settle.

Refer the POS. most banks cover this up until the auction date. but is pay first and claim back process.
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post Jan 7 2024, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(watzisname @ Jan 7 2024, 02:00 PM)
This is why i don't like to rent to tenants

I had multiple tenants don't pay or don't pay the whole amount

Yes, I know you are supposed to change TNB to tenant's name when u rent. But it's still a hassle dealing with tenants

Some older houses have their meter inside the house, so officer can't intrude to cut supply if no one at home. Normally tenant will just ignore and hide inside house if they see TNB officer
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just don't rent to low income people and you should be fine. up your rent
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post Jan 7 2024, 02:54 PM

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post Jan 7 2024, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Jan 7 2024, 01:19 PM)
if the account is under previous owner,.. then the bill should be bear by previous owner,.. new owner shouldn't bear previous owner debt,... if the account is under tenant name,.. then TNB should chase tenant,..
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That in theory though…….in practice? Willl tnb end up asking new owner to pay?
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post Jan 7 2024, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(pandah @ Jan 7 2024, 01:17 PM)
Tnb can't ask police to go together to the house to terminate the connection?
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Police will say must need court order 1st.


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