Another contender frm zontes...

cfmoto 675srr officially launched rm37,888. nice looking bike, according to a bike reviewer in China, cfmoto not increasing this bike's hp is because they need the current engine and gearbox to fit many more variants like the 450 engine series, they don't want to spend too much on r&d and fitting different models with different internals. So this 675 series will also be looking at the NK, MT, CL etc.

This post has been edited by Avex: Nov 1 2024, 07:27 PM

Sendayan motor cfmoto flagship store launch.

Was following the fiasco of the 3 cylinders engine in China recently, basically there was a flame war between Zontes' CEO and CFMoto because CFMoto paid an influencer to do dyno runs with a specially tuned 675SR, which led to unrealistic HP that outperformed the Zontes, but actually the Zontes' has a faster engine, at least for those being sold to the market. Then came the scandals about the Chinese made dyno machine being wildly inaccurate and unreliable, and it didn't help that CFMoto marketed the 675SR as 'no parallel under 1L bikes', which is of course not true.

Another interesting thing I learned is that the J.Juan brake used for the 800NK (also being used for the 703 and 675) is the best brake system China manufacturers can buy at the moment (the others not sold to them), and it is actually pretty shit based on the reviews, so in China the insiders know regardless of how powerful the engines get, they cannot solve the 'brake problem' yet. What do you think about the brakes jaycee

This post has been edited by JustForFun: Nov 2 2024, 03:57 PM

in my previous short test ride on the 800nk it does feel a bit inadequate but still fairly usable.
imo, its okay for normal rider but could be better. how 450sr can get brembo but not 675sr and 800nk

Now that you mention it, I don't understand as well, but basically that's what the CEO of Zontes mentioned, that the J. Juan brakes at the moment is the best available to them, not sure best in term of value or what... but that's also clearly the case because most of the bikes around that cc level are using the same brake system.

Also the 450SR Brembo has downgraded FF brake pads, which is apparently not same as the sample bike they gave to reviewers.

But back to topic, the 675SR turned out to be a disappointment after all the hype. The early reviews were sample bikes specially tuned and the mass produced one s**k ass, for this price, the 800K is a much better bike, all thanks to KTM for the engine (and pretty much the experience from manufacturing the Duke 790 helped).

thats a serious allegation.. guess need to wait some dyno run from the owners

so I went to CFmoto Sendayan after checking out MotoGP booth

aggressive sitting position, might be suitable for 175cm and above or gonna have bad time at traffic stop

didn't test ride

Personally, I don't think the j Juan brakes has any inherent issues. Plenty of stopping power. Just the initial bite is not as sharp as I like. And in this segment with potentially newer riders, probably a good thing. ABS action is pretty good on the NK. Not too intrusive. Allows a bit of lock before activating.

I didn't stay for the 675 launch. Got too hot and left early and there was no test ride for the new bike anyway.


They could have made the 675 a bit more aggressive and a bit more powerful. Right now, the NK still beats it...as long as you can keep the front wheel on the ground.

Right now, less than 4k separates the 500 voom, 675sr and the 800NK. In fact with ongoing rebates on the 800NK, it's actually cheaper than the 675sr and only 1k more than the 500 voom.

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Yup, that was the main complaint. The brake was not responsive at all until at least half of it is applied, although the stopping power is good enough from there onwards.

I think for balance, the J Juan's aren't as bad as you put it. It's certainly about on par to what youd find on class players like the base z900 and 8S. The NK is tuned to be a more street able and comfortable bike not to be compared to supersports. Yes if you ride an NK at well over 90% (as I have), then yes, it's shortcomings are apparent in terms of brakes, weight distribution and suspension.

Take the brake complaints with a grain of salt, it's easy for reviewers to compare to the best they have sampled, forgetting what or to which buyer demographic the bike was tuned for.

You really don't want a herky jerky front brake for a daily bike, especially for newer riders that haven't mastered fine motor skills. The duke790 has the same brake setup and I have not heard much brake complaints on that either.

In fact for some reason, its about the same as the Brembo stylema setup on the 700CLX sport in terms of stopping power, and the rear brakes is much better than the Brembo equipped CLX.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Nov 3 2024, 08:38 PM

bro do you own 800nk? how long been riding that bike?

J.Juan was bought over by Brembo and I think it was equipped on some KTM and Bajaj before that

braking power is simple, and straightforward
- mc to caliper ratio
- caliper rigidity
- caliper piston extension length
- lever ratio
- hose length
- pads material
- pads groove
- rotor material
- operating temperature

9 months. 26k km. Currently the 2nd highest mileage 800nk.in Malaysia. Soon to be highest.

If you want my review and the issues I have with that, can go to the 800nk thread.....somewhere here on the forum. I will be posting updates periodically.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Nov 12 2024, 02:56 PM

Too add, pad size, number of pistons, hose type

In all fairness, it's tough to get bad brakes nowadays. Modern brakes all work quite well, only if they are sized up correctly for he bike/weight/riding style. You'd be considered nitpicking if you are complaining about brake feel on all but the cheapest bargain bin parts. Once you move up to a midsize, the brakes are usually ok for daily riding. If you are a track jungky then maybe you are that 5% that the stock brakes will be insufficient.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Nov 12 2024, 03:03 PM

that airscoop is bad for streets

I think there would be a mesh grill inside there?

Here's a very brief overview of the 675SR vs. the ZX6:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=hgVcS2rE2UM

This could be cfmoto's best looking naked bike

I may be partial, but I think the 800nk looks better. Not sure if the colour has anything to do about it...but this example.looks more like the 450nk then the bigger brother...just looks like.a cheaper build.