Not even CN reviewer.. or I could be looking at the wrong venue?

Our biggest beef with the CFmoto brand is the after-sales service with Mforce which is open only during office hours (weekdays only).

It's a royal pain in the ass.

My wife's bike mysteriously died on her way to work last Saturday (I suspect it's ignition-related) and since it's technically still under warranty she had it towed to Mforce and left it there in front of the guardhouse after filling in the forms. No news from them for the whole week until I called them on Fri. That's when I was told they had just decided to prepare to have the bike sent to Penang.

Refused to tell me what's wrong with it. Although they said it'll take 2 weeks, I knew better than to believe it lah. Will probably take a whole effing month.

Not impressed.

Meanwhile, we're expecting the tyres to need replacements once the bike passes the 25000km mark. Finding a replacement set for that 18" + 17" combo is proving to be fucking aggravating...

Got outside workshop can do CFMoto, if warranty is not an issue.. can do in any big bike shop that use to do either Kawasaki or KTMs.

the CLX700 and 650 series. 80% Er6 Kawa engine with bore-up pistons and Titanium valves.

Just the electronics run by Bosch with "KTMesque" wiring.. 

Yes, M-Force sucks when it comes to aftersales service for all of their brands at least in the Central region, don't have the familiarity with their Jawi HQ in Penang.

Not sure about that "sidai" part, but from my experience ordering stuff directly from CFMoto CN dealership via Taobao is very fast (took only 3 days for the brake disc rotor and pads to arrive).

Just need to find the right mechanic in MY who is accustomed to doing Continental bikes especially when it comes to the electronics part.

Search the part number online

https://cfmoto.motohobi.ee/product/2022-motorcycle-cf700-2a

once found search for it on Taobao,

off course is not a direct hit result but in most cases, it was the closest of the kind, then from there chat with the seller to check.

Today 22 Dec, still no picture no sound from Mforce Penang. Called them up. They still haven't even looked at the bike. Next week baru tengok, they said. Perghhhh... pook kai hamkarchan....

Yesterday they sent my wife a quotation for her to pay, even though the bike is still under warranty. First they claimed they had to tear down the whole engine so it needs fresh engine oil when reassembled. Then they said the bike is almost due for a major service at 20000km anyway, so might as well do it.

My problem with this is:

1) Engine tear down! At under 20000km? What the fuck????
2) They still *REFUSED* to say what the problem is. Huge red flag.
3) Manual says major svc is not due until 40000km.
4) The parts they quoted are not stuff needed for major service. Air filter, coolant & brake fluid all need to be replaced at 20000km. Either they don't know, they're incompetent or they're bullshitting my wife.
5) If they really had torn down the engine, they should definitely charge for coolant as well. The fact they didn't is telling.
6) They backdated the quotation. Sales ppl do this to pad their numbers, which may reveal the actual motivation behind this amount.

I'm starting to think Mforce ppl are full of shit & they're not honest.

Okay so I finally got clarification from one of the technicians named Evan. He finally tells me what the problem is - 2x bent exhaust valves in one of the cylinders. He explains that it is due to a loose 'valve guard' (whatever that is) from the factory, so it's a manufacturer defect and not due to user negligence or abuse.

So they have started doing a top overhaul for this bike. If that's the case then it makes sense they wanna change the oil, filter and plugs only, coz they would have removed the top end and valvetrain off the engine block.

It would have been so much easier if they had explained this much earlier.

This explanation puts Mforce in the clear, so they're not the shysters  I thought they were before. Mea culpa.

That aside, I dunno why I keep ending up with lemon bikes... sighh... kena mandi bungalah, buang sial...

Not to troll, but having identify it is a manufacturing defect, the invoiced consumables are still billable?

Maybe it would feel a bit like the BMW R1250RT which is also a big cc 2-cylinder bike? The beemer is a boxer though.

V2 and Boxer, lots of low down torque, but it might have more responsive throttle due to the more direct drive chain instead of shaft in BMW.

On the downside, Chain Maintenance lor...

From the feedback of KTM 1290 owner, this bike got electronic sensitivity, ensure the Battery is fully optimize, below 90% of health, will show lots of christmas tree light in the dashboard (even though its not really electrical or sensory issue)

But IMHO, to pay 89k of wealth for a Mainland bike.... I'll wait for now thanks.. (80% due to MForce  )

for power train it like scooter, i mean just trottle, or this 6 speed gear?

i owned Dominar 400, CBR650R, 800MT and now 800NK

800NK is really a fun bike, really no brainer to get this for 38k ish compare to a KTM 790 at around 70K...

The bike throttle improved tremendously, even better then 800MT. Brake is also good, suspension and build quality...really cant find any downside except there is no TC.

Power is super, i think the fun factor is on par with MT09. and u only need phone to unlock the bike...(they gave wireless key as well)

together with carplay...

The 500SR engine is already in patent papers...

https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-news/...ars-in-patents/

"When it comes to performance, we can logically expect the 500SR to sit below the 675SR in CFMoto’s pyramid of power, sliding between that 100-hp-plus triple and the 50-hp, 449cc 450SR twin (which is sold under the name 450SS in the US). As a direct rival to small fours including Kawasaki’s Ninja ZX-4RR and Kove’s 450RR, CFMoto will be looking to get around 80 hp from the 500SR."

Details of the 500 SR VOOM confirmed  :thumbsup:

https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-news/...ails-confirmed/

So, which do you prefer? The 500 SR VOOM or the 675 SR?