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jaycee1
post Dec 10 2023, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Dec 10 2023, 02:25 PM)
That's the thing. When we bought the bike, the distributorship was under KTNS and they had a small network of service centers in Klang Valley. That changed when Mforce took over, who promptly cancelled this network and tapao all official after-sales & warranty-related work for themselves.

Stuff that involves error codes obviously needs a special OBD tool which most workshops won't have, although some may now have it. But if the bike is still under warranty, you hv no choice but to put up with Mforce lor.

Mforce tapao everything for all the Chinese brands it represents. So you can imagine the fucking queue of bikes every day at Mforce in Segambut. The only other outlet I know is in Seri Kembangan or something... so far lehhh, fukk dat!
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Sorry to hear that. MForce is the only bugbear when it comes to Chinese bikes here. If something goes wrong with the bike, it would be weeks before it gets sorted out.

I think you can find Bridgestone T32s in the 18/17 combo. I think that's what our own ajaibman uses on his. What I want to know is how did you make the MT60s last 25000kms? Lol.
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post Dec 11 2023, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Dec 10 2023, 11:00 PM)
T32s most shops have to order, as a result they're around RM1500 a pair. Niamah...
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Ouch

That's the thing about MForce bikes. Some comes with good tyres but after market don't have replacements

The CLX adventure and Motomorini xcape comes with excellent scorpion STRs....but no one brings those sizes here.

It's one of the reasons keeping me from buying the CLX. Damn tough to find good sporting 18" fronts.

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post Dec 13 2023, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Dec 12 2023, 07:09 PM)
got wht parts?
full with order option?
dont jz sell oil filter ....

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Later say pre-order only. Hahahaha. Wait 1 month to arrive.

Ultimately it depends on Mforce's commitment for older customer bikes. But can MForce really stock up so many parts for so many bike models they sell/sold? If you buy an MForce bike, you are likely pretty much on your own for parts.
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post Jan 5 2024, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jan 3 2024, 11:30 AM)
Okay so I finally got clarification from one of the technicians named Evan. He finally tells me what the problem is - 2x bent exhaust valves in one of the cylinders. He explains that it is due to a loose 'valve guard' (whatever that is) from the factory, so it's a manufacturer defect and not due to user negligence or abuse.

So they have started doing a top overhaul for this bike. If that's the case then it makes sense they wanna change the oil, filter and plugs only, coz they would have removed the top end and valvetrain off the engine block.

It would have been so much easier if they had explained this much earlier.

This explanation puts Mforce in the clear, so they're not the shysters  I thought they were before. Mea culpa.

That aside, I dunno why I keep ending up with lemon bikes... sighh... kena mandi bungalah, buang sial...
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I can imagine the relief. But keeping a customer in the dark for months is still unacceptable.

However you case isn't unique..heard quite a few owners have had bikes parked for a long time waiting for troubleshooting.

I think it's a manpower issue. Everyone taichi ..end up nothing gets done. They are probably swamped at the service centre....as you guess, segambut probably just ships everything back to PG.

Checking for a no start, no run problem is actually quite simple and straightforward. First check for spark and fuel. Then compression and leak down test.


First the Dominar, now the CLX... U sure got bad luck with cheap bikes.

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post Jan 17 2024, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(minmin @ Jan 16 2024, 03:54 PM)
i owned Dominar 400, CBR650R, 800MT and now 800NK

800NK is really a fun bike, really no brainer to get this for 38k ish compare to a KTM 790 at around 70K...

The bike throttle improved tremendously, even better then 800MT. Brake is also good, suspension and build quality...really cant find any downside except there is no TC.

Power is super, i think the fun factor is on par with MT09. and u only need phone to unlock the bike...(they gave wireless key as well)

together with carplay...
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Good, if they sell enough NKs maybe MForce will support the bike and owners more. Kudos being the brave soul that would still give MForce a chance.

Since you have an 800NK, did yours come with a USB charging port? Right side, under the tank fairing?

Dealer seems to be unsure if it's standard item included with the bike. Which is really weird, since China manufacturer usually throws everything in....which is even weirder as they DID give you every option as standard on the NK. Dealer says have to buy separately. (Around 100). From which dealer did you get your NK from?

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post Mar 2 2024, 03:47 PM

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Looks like dealers dumping bikes also. 2nd hand prices koyak
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post Mar 4 2024, 09:10 PM

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Hmmm..interesting. notice the rear hugger on the CLX? Yep it's the same one on the NK.

And from the pictures, it shows a freshly shipped bike with the rear hugger partially installed.

I'm thinking maybe they are all shipped like this and the local dealer is responsible to do the final set up.

So..... I wonder who fucked up on my bike...... MForce or GSCycle.


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post Apr 5 2024, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Apr 5 2024, 02:28 PM)
Danial not helping? or he's no longer there? 

My CLX also change the steering cone bearing in 15k km  mileage, it same as Kawa GTR 1400 or Ducati Monster 795/6 ..

But true, dont buy any bike under MForce for now, unless CFMoto breaks up and create their own aftersales (which I doubt)
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Danial is still there. But I think MForce is playing football. Everything also thrown back to Pg.

As far as I know they just do regular service... Any troubleshooting also throw back to Pg. Even then heard from other guys there, do diagnostics also need 1 month booking. MForce is hopeless.

Just don't buy any MForce bikes and save yourself a shit load of headache.

PG also a real POS. I told them to do the 1000k service while the bike was there....then they shipped the bike back without doing the service. Ask Segambut, say need booking. WTF.
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post May 20 2024, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(harryleesbr @ May 20 2024, 04:14 PM)
450mt...what else....
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450NK

Said 3 bike launch. So maybe tmrw another teaser for the 3rd bike.
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post Oct 21 2024, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Oct 20 2024, 03:49 PM)
38k for a 500cc inline-4 bike.
its competition is qjmotor 600cc bikes (extra 100cc and brembo brakes)
at that price also can get used z900 and gsx s750
but cfmoto is the only bike with less than 200 kg curb weight.

people might buy it for the look because I do think it is the prettiest compared to others hmm.gif
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I cant get over the look of the bulbous rear end and bucktooth front headlight. They should have made the rear more slim and integrated the headlights into the air intakes and DRLs.

Anyway. 49nm at 10,000rpm isn't going to pull your arms off. Any of the similarly priced twin 800 cc bikes or older 750 fours would seriously gap it.

Probably can be considered if you are willing to wait for major rebates and discounts to come.

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post Oct 22 2024, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Oct 22 2024, 08:06 AM)
I agree. I am one of their target market. I'm not into getting the highest specs on paper but as long as it can be a good replacement for my old FZ6 will be good enough already. Besides, I am not one who would take a bike to 10/10 of its abilities (because clearly, I'm not that level of rider), so, as long as it isn't slower than any new 35k bike out there, I'm alright already. For the same price, I doubt there are any new bikes that are close to it in performance anyway...hmmm, maybe the QJ600rr, but that's heavy and taller than comfortable for my short legs  biggrin.gif

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Well my 800NK was only 36k with change (35,888). So........

20hp more, nearly double the torque at 4000rpm less.
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post Oct 22 2024, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Oct 22 2024, 06:05 PM)
It's actually quite often mentioned in the Chinese forums that the designs of CFMOTO bikes are outsourced to Italian designers... Whether they are any good, as in all cases is subjective lol.
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The recent cfmoto were in house designs from CFMOTO's European design arm.. The designer was Carles Solsona. Previously worked for MV Agusta and Ducati. Reason to believe he knows how to make a good looking bike.

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The original design concept that led to the 800NK.

Always thought the 800nk had a hint of MV Agusta DNA. As it turns out......

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post Nov 2 2024, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Nov 2 2024, 03:56 PM)
What do you think about the brakes jaycee
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Personally, I don't think the j Juan brakes has any inherent issues. Plenty of stopping power. Just the initial bite is not as sharp as I like. And in this segment with potentially newer riders, probably a good thing. ABS action is pretty good on the NK. Not too intrusive. Allows a bit of lock before activating.

I didn't stay for the 675 launch. Got too hot and left early and there was no test ride for the new bike anyway.


They could have made the 675 a bit more aggressive and a bit more powerful. Right now, the NK still beats it...as long as you can keep the front wheel on the ground.

Right now, less than 4k separates the 500 voom, 675sr and the 800NK. In fact with ongoing rebates on the 800NK, it's actually cheaper than the 675sr and only 1k more than the 500 voom.

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post Nov 3 2024, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Nov 3 2024, 12:53 PM)
Yup, that was the main complaint. The brake was not responsive at all until at least half of it is applied, although the stopping power is good enough from there onwards.
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I think for balance, the J Juan's aren't as bad as you put it. It's certainly about on par to what youd find on class players like the base z900 and 8S. The NK is tuned to be a more street able and comfortable bike not to be compared to supersports. Yes if you ride an NK at well over 90% (as I have), then yes, it's shortcomings are apparent in terms of brakes, weight distribution and suspension.

Take the brake complaints with a grain of salt, it's easy for reviewers to compare to the best they have sampled, forgetting what or to which buyer demographic the bike was tuned for.

You really don't want a herky jerky front brake for a daily bike, especially for newer riders that haven't mastered fine motor skills. The duke790 has the same brake setup and I have not heard much brake complaints on that either.

In fact for some reason, its about the same as the Brembo stylema setup on the 700CLX sport in terms of stopping power, and the rear brakes is much better than the Brembo equipped CLX.

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post Nov 12 2024, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(mytaffeta @ Nov 12 2024, 12:26 PM)
bro do you own 800nk? how long been riding that bike?
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9 months. 26k km. Currently the 2nd highest mileage 800nk.in Malaysia. Soon to be highest.

If you want my review and the issues I have with that, can go to the 800nk thread.....somewhere here on the forum. I will be posting updates periodically.

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post Nov 12 2024, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Nov 12 2024, 01:44 PM)
J.Juan was bought over by Brembo and I think it was equipped on some KTM and Bajaj before that

braking power is simple, and straightforward
- mc to caliper ratio
- caliper rigidity
- caliper piston extension length
- lever ratio
- hose length
- pads material
- pads groove
- rotor material
- operating temperature
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Too add, pad size, number of pistons, hose type

In all fairness, it's tough to get bad brakes nowadays. Modern brakes all work quite well, only if they are sized up correctly for he bike/weight/riding style. You'd be considered nitpicking if you are complaining about brake feel on all but the cheapest bargain bin parts. Once you move up to a midsize, the brakes are usually ok for daily riding. If you are a track jungky then maybe you are that 5% that the stock brakes will be insufficient.

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Nov 13 2024, 12:27 PM)
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This could be cfmoto's best looking naked bike
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I may be partial, but I think the 800nk looks better. Not sure if the colour has anything to do about it...but this example.looks more like the 450nk then the bigger brother...just looks like.a cheaper build.
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post Nov 14 2024, 11:10 AM

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Yes I agree the 800 sits too tall. But then again it pays dividends in terms of comfort at the expense of handling...

The 675 is a bit more sporty.

But it seems the black 800nk colour choices are more cohesive and upmarket, especially with the blacked out engine cases and bronze wheels.

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post Dec 8 2024, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Dec 8 2024, 09:26 AM)
800NK engine teardown in China. Camshafts are fucked but the dude says somebody added Coke to the engine. Whether or not it suffers from the same lubrication issues as KTM's LC8Cs, I dunno.

Gempakk guna industrial ultrasonic cleaner - kalau kat Msia confirm pakai petrol je.


Very interestingly though, if you compare it with what we see in the LC8C teardown video below, the CFmoto's engine is designed slightly differently. For example, you can clearly see the additional oil passages under the camshaft bridge in the CFmoto unit that are not present in the KTM one.


MEANWHILE.... KTM has till Feb to conduct a corporate Hail Mary before being forced into bankruptcy.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/billroberson/2...-of-insolvency/
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Looks to me the damage in the case of the cfmoto is on the cam journals. While KTMs cheese cam is at the cam lobes.
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post Jan 21 2025, 01:27 PM

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Just done 33333km on my NK in 11 months

Just done VC last week. Happy to report nothing unusual. VC is in spec. Cam wear is not abnormal.

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