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Drian
post Oct 5 2023, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(vin6 @ Oct 5 2023, 01:22 PM)
Remember your sheet shows after 10 years you cant sell back because nem contract is over (not sure if government will continue or extend confirm have to reapply).
Take note - ppl who did their homework abt NEM soalr already know after 10 years they buy batteries and store access energy for night use. This will also consider as saving already but upfront cost would be battery .

Currently estimate price for 5kwh = RM5k-6k (can get cheaper , battery and solar prices keeps dropping).

Average we need at least 10kwh per house depending on lood/usage.
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That is true but at year 10 , investment side shows -37k which means additional 37k from the pocket.


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post Oct 5 2023, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 3 2023, 10:53 AM)
me wife and 4 ekor anak.

Average 3 biji aircon every night until morning. +1 study room aircon if star aligned and i get to play game. Even my friends and family shocked about my rm800+ bill. I also dunno why so high really.
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i think you need to learn how to conserve electricity
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post Oct 5 2023, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Oct 5 2023, 06:44 PM)
That is true but at year 10 , investment side shows -37k which means additional 37k from the pocket.
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From the scenario that I show earlier, and all the calculation model point to the benefit of having solar, so year 11onwards, you just need to spend a battery (currently is 47k but could be only 30k in Year 11). Let’s take rm30k

So year 11, you spend on a battery for 30k. Another upfront you come out first. You can use a portion of the 130k that you have saved and then continues to enjoy the rm800 electricity bill.

The new cycle continues but roi is way faster now compared to first cycle.

So with solar panel, your ledger will always be in positive. Unlike u save in epf and pay Tnb, ledger become negative big time.
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post Oct 14 2023, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Oct 4 2023, 03:55 PM)
It’s more than a hope. It’s performance guaranteed.

So if anything wrong, it can be fixed.  The critical period is the first 10 years. 

Since warranty covers up to 12 and some 25 years for inverter and pnel warranty is 25-30 years performance. 

So I think it is a calculated risk there la. Not to say it will never break down but the effect will not be that bad. 

But one thing can cause the problem u said. U have a bad neighbour throwing stones to your panels.  Crack all of them. Then yes your worse nightmare happens.
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ohh 12~25 years not bad, long term gain, but how about the battery storage? , those should be the most expensive and warranty only cover like 1 year?
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post Oct 14 2023, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(yakumo @ Oct 14 2023, 09:32 AM)
ohh 12~25 years not bad, long term gain, but how about the battery storage? , those should be the most expensive and warranty only cover like 1 year?
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Right now for the first 10 years under nem 3.0, we don’t have or need any battery. So battery maintenance or replacement is never an issue.

Even if you decide to go for battery solution after 10 years, the batteries nowadays come with 10 years warranty, so it’s not an issue either. It’s never 1 year warranty.
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post Nov 4 2023, 01:36 PM

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May be by then we have used-ev battery storage system which r cheaper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKSmIqGvZR4
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post Nov 4 2023, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 3 2023, 10:38 AM)
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May 2023 RM 839.50
Nov 2023 RM 589.74

RM249.76 difference

any device that u change during this period?

I recently change all my AC ,fridge, washer and dryer to inverters, can see some significant difference in bills, consumption still the same, turun around rm100+

my conventional AC all old already > 10 years

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post Nov 4 2023, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Nov 4 2023, 01:55 PM)
May 2023 RM 839.50
Nov 2023 RM 589.74

RM249.76 difference

any device that u change during this period?

I recently change all my AC ,fridge, washer and dryer to inverters, can see some significant difference in bills, consumption still the same, turun around rm100+

my conventional AC all old already > 10 years
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Hi. No changes.

The amount difference is the electricity I consumed during daytime before exporting back to TNB.
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post Nov 4 2023, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 3 2023, 10:38 AM)
Hi k/

I installed solar panel for my house 4 months ago. Total cost RM47000 for 26 pcs. Don't know the detail much cos not important to me. All i know is they write Jinko solar 550wp.

So far my average bill from RM800+ reduce to RM40-50. That's a whooping 20% return p.a

Isn't it too good to be true investment? What am i missing? why still not many ppl installing the solar since potential return so damn 7 good. Even EPF give guaranteed 5% only. FD is even lower.

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post Nov 4 2023, 04:36 PM

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How u check the solar generation on myTNB app? Can teach me?
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post Nov 4 2023, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(CaffeineDog @ Nov 4 2023, 04:36 PM)
How u check the solar generation on myTNB app? Can teach me?
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U can see the export figure.

Thst is the generation that got pushed back to Tnb. This figure will be smaller than the solar generation shown in the app

For example. Your Tnb bill export is 1000kwh

Ur solar generation for the month from solar app is 1300kwh

That means you use some of the generated power of 300kwh.
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post Nov 4 2023, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ Nov 4 2023, 04:40 PM)
U can see the export figure.

Thst is the generation that got pushed back to Tnb. This figure will be smaller than the solar generation shown in the app

For example. Your Tnb bill export is 1000kwh

Ur solar generation for the month from solar app is 1300kwh

That means you use some of the generated power of 300kwh.
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post Nov 4 2023, 04:50 PM

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Apologies. What i mean is; currently i can view the electricity bill of my parents’ house on myTNB app. Few years ago, my father installed solar panel on the rooftop. Also from Jinko Solar (Ipoh). Do i need to register with TNB in order for the solar power generation statistics to appear on the monthly TNB bill in the app?
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post Nov 4 2023, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(CaffeineDog @ Nov 4 2023, 04:50 PM)
Apologies. What i mean is; currently i can view the electricity bill of my parents’ house on myTNB app. Few years ago, my father installed solar panel on the rooftop. Also from Jinko Solar (Ipoh). Do i need to register with TNB in order for the solar power generation statistics to appear on the monthly TNB bill in the app?
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U can view what I explained from their monthly bill. The monthly bill you can add the Tnb acc into your app in your phone. Then u can download already.
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QUOTE(CaffeineDog @ Nov 4 2023, 04:36 PM)
How u check the solar generation on myTNB app? Can teach me?
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TNB app > choose account > view bill > view details
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Oct 3 2023, 10:38 AM)
Hi k/

I installed solar panel for my house 4 months ago. Total cost RM47000 for 26 pcs. Don't know the detail much cos not important to me. All i know is they write Jinko solar 550wp.

So far my average bill from RM800+ reduce to RM40-50. That's a whooping 20% return p.a

Isn't it too good to be true investment? What am i missing? why still not many ppl installing the solar since potential return so damn 7 good. Even EPF give guaranteed 5% only. FD is even lower.
hmm i dont understand TS... u have installed 26*550 = 14.3kwp
in your bill only see you generate 1071kWh... ada sikit rendah isn't it?

14.3kwp should generate around worth of rm1k electricity dy... why only export rm552?

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post Feb 14 2024, 09:44 AM

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Just use lease method lar.

Can subscribe with petronas gentari. Put lil money as deposit they come, install and maintain their solar on your house rooftop.

You get discounted electricity rate.

The solar equipment maintenance, depreciation rate, ROI is not part of your risk already.

Its better that way.

Win win situation for renewable power provider and you.

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post Feb 14 2024, 09:48 AM

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Solar panel so exp? Or vendor kuat... Ahemmm
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post Feb 14 2024, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Feb 14 2024, 09:44 AM)
Just use lease method lar.

Can subscribe with petronas gentari. Put lil money as deposit they come, install and maintain their solar on your house rooftop.

You get discounted electricity rate.

The solar equipment maintenance, depreciation rate, ROI is not part of your risk already.

Its better that way.

Win win situation for renewable power provider and you.
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Calculated already. Not really worth it. Need to pay average 47cent.
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post Feb 14 2024, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(archief @ Feb 14 2024, 09:41 AM)
hmm i dont understand TS... u have installed 26*550 = 14.3kwp
in your bill only see you generate 1071kWh... ada sikit rendah isn't it?

14.3kwp should generate around worth of rm1k electricity dy... why only export rm552?
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At 3.5 sun hour it shouldn’t be worth 1k of electricity Nyway. The generation is alright. It hasn’t include the self consumption figure.

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