Did TNB just screwed Solar users?
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 Aug 9 2023, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Aug 9 2023, 05:53 PM) Commercial for sure exceed 1500KW one lar Me 3 phase shop loti wonder what is their % difference  Paling save electricity if raining season 1121 kw/h Actual amount 555.79 Icpt 0.037 /kw/h = 41.48 + 1.6 % kwtbb 8.89 Total 606.15 Without subsidy 781.67 with subsidy discounted 175.51 If hot season mostly monthly RM 1k plus tnb bill π House paling save monthly also need RM 300+ π |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(zuozi @ Aug 9 2023, 06:21 PM) Me 3 phase shop lot what business natural? Restaurant or office? Restaurant for sure die.Paling save electricity if raining season 1121 kw/h Actual amount 555.79 Icpt 0.037 /kw/h = 41.48 + 1.6 % kwtbb 8.89 Total 606.15 Without subsidy 781.67 with subsidy discounted 175.51 If hot season mostly monthly RM 1k plus tnb bill π House paling save monthly also need RM 300+ π |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:22 PM
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So wat I see is that with or without solar, the surcharge is there.
But there is one thing I donβt understand. Since we are solar user, why are we still contributing to the kwtbb 1.6% |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Aug 9 2023, 06:19 PM) The summary is that under government/TNBβs new policy ICPT, installing solar panels at home is not an investment project that can see returns in the short term. business kena ICPT earlier than residential la.I believe some businesses that runs solar energy will also shutting down due to the new policies issued by the government/TNB. |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Aug 9 2023, 06:22 PM) what business natural? Restaurant or office? Restaurant for sure die. Office, if I'm not around they usually bukak aircond max unclosed, only if me around rooms no use ac will closed π , dah malas nak complain to them don't forget to close ac if no use..... |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(bee88 @ Aug 9 2023, 06:19 PM) Yes. Exactly. yeah, no point install solar(connected to tnb grid) where the generated electricity > your average usage during the day, only waste of money coz the unit u sell also not really cover much in comparision with the tax and whats not.. better just save up the panel cost and install just enough.One of my solar friend avoided the extra surcharge because of solar. This post has been edited by brkli: Aug 9 2023, 06:26 PM |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Aug 9 2023, 05:51 PM) If everyone benefit from solar. bos bila setup solar crypto mining? Tnb punya orang / bini / anjing nak makan apa? Sedarlah  |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:26 PM
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Icpt is usually discount. Just that when u use more than 1500 it become surcharge.
For commercial, itβs surcharge. |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(Oltromen Ripot @ Aug 9 2023, 06:19 PM) User complain. Ok bro. ThanksUser generates from solar; send into TNB grid 900+ kWh. When no solar generation, user instead consumed 1800+ kWh from grid. So in total, user's nett usage for the period is more from the grid; about 900+ kWh. ---- TNB said β’ if usage below 1500 kWh, ICPT rate is such and such. β’ if usage 1500kWh and above, TNB will charge 10Β’ on every kWh used, not just on usage from 1500kWh. ---- that user is then complaining about 2 things β’ his nett usage from the grid is 900+ kWh. Why TNB treat him as if all his 1800+kWh is generated by TNB alone. Then additionally charge him kau-kau on the ICPT. β’ why not charge 10Β’ for usage 1500kWh and above only? why must charge for EVERY kWh. Why not tiered-charge the lower ICPT rate for usage below 1500kWh. Seems like problem for the super rich live in bungalow |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:27 PM
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Also for Icing on the cake, NEM 3.0 contract is only 10 years after that any energy you exported will not be compensated for, that's mean you will need to get battery later.
Solar users kena scam kaw kaw. This post has been edited by Doraku: Aug 9 2023, 06:30 PM |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Aug 9 2023, 06:23 PM) business kena ICPT earlier than residential la. Let me correction, people who sells Solar panel as their natural business.Because from the "investment return" perspective, it had gone longer period. |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:28 PM
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I thought the purpose of this solar was to generate more electricity to sell back. I dun think ppl would have invested in this scheme if the only purpose is for self usage. Malaysia electricity still pretty cheap. I wonder if this is only for self usage. How will this self usage justify putting money into the equipment etc. If say we assume fixed deposit rate of 3.5%. Is this even a worth while investment.
But looking at the lack of reply to my enquiry, I think I can guess the answer already. |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Aug 9 2023, 06:27 PM) Let me correction, people who sells Solar panel as their natural business. So ppl made a lost from this investment right?Because from the "investment return" perspective, it had gone longer period. |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Aug 9 2023, 06:27 PM) Ok bro. Thanks rich.. but not too smart.Seems like problem for the super rich live in bungalow |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(Doraku @ Aug 9 2023, 06:27 PM) Also for Icing on the cake, NEM 3.0 contract is only 10 years after that any energy you exported will not be compensated for, and need to get battery later. then sign a new contract la.Solar users kena scam kaw kaw. TNB dont want to accept old equipment? |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Aug 9 2023, 06:27 PM) Ok bro. Thanks Not really. Even living normal terrace house will kena if you and family all WFH and online classes aircond running all daySeems like problem for the super rich live in bungalow This post has been edited by Boy96: Aug 9 2023, 06:32 PM |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(brkli @ Aug 9 2023, 06:29 PM) rich.. but not too smart. some people after solar: tak payah tutup aircond bilik tu, kan ada solar, bill murah  |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Aug 9 2023, 06:30 PM) then sign a new contract la. Maybe one thing you should learn.TNB dont want to accept old equipment? Nothing free in this life. |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(a_dot_el @ Aug 9 2023, 05:33 PM) By right ICPT charges should be charged after contra. logically, yes.because it does not matter kWh by solar or by hydro or by coal. you put into TNB 1kWh, and you take back 1kWh. nett zero. If export 900 and use 1800, that nett use of only 900 from non-solar. logically TNB should only be allowed to charge ICPT for that non-solar usage. |
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Aug 9 2023, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(BrookLes @ Aug 9 2023, 06:29 PM) So ppl made a lost from this investment right? Not really lost, the investment period promised for example 5years to breakeven. But the implement of this, it may take maybe 6 or 6.5years to breakeven. |
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