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imin
post Aug 9 2023, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(prdkancil @ Aug 9 2023, 05:07 PM)
The simple explanation is  , what ever u use in kWh (import ) it wont direct deduct from what u generate from solar which is  kWh(export) .

Mean if  u use 1700kWh and generate Solar 400kWh :
>TNB will still charge u base on 1700kWh and thn baru count 400kWh resell bck to them = final TNB fees .

It is not 1700kWh-400kWh = 1300kWh to count ur usage bill .
Tats y still will kena ICPT charges of 10c/kWh for any usage above 1500kWh becoz use 1700kWh
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post Aug 9 2023, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Aug 9 2023, 04:53 PM)
meaning TNB never agreed pay more for the solar energy. so apa masalah?
usage taken from the grid is still higher than 1500kwh.

change to renewable energy but never consider to conserve energy.
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Its easier to generate more energy than to conserve energy.
Same like spending. Easier to make money than to save money.

QUOTE(InitialB @ Aug 9 2023, 04:57 PM)
Tips:

Install solar panel for your aircon , fan and light. (Seperate panel and wall socket)

Use TNB for other purposes
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Then you need to use battery to keep the energy generated from solar to use at night. Its more expensive and requires maintenance compared to the on-grid solar system that is linked to tnb meter.

QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 9 2023, 05:30 PM)
if your solar is big enough to not needing to pull frm the grid
thn what are they charging u?
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I guess that is why people are complaining.
The solar generated goes to tnb during the day when people go to work, and then at night, homes draw electricity from tnb. But seems that tnb will charge ICPT for both tnb and solar energy. That don't seem fair.
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post Aug 9 2023, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Aug 9 2023, 05:26 PM)
Should put it this way:

Msia petrol one of cheapest
Bodo for those think drive EV will save moneh for petrol
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But fact is driving EV charging is proved cheaper than petrol kan laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
zerorating
post Aug 9 2023, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Aug 9 2023, 05:51 PM)
Whats the point of getting solar in the first place if you dont use much electricity, since the cheapest of solar is also 20-25k
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just accept the honeymoon period is over.

i sometime waste electricity alot too, still far cry from 1500kwh
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post Aug 9 2023, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(9m2w @ Aug 9 2023, 05:46 PM)
So residential don't have the option of using generated energy first? So it's something like net metering?

I did want to take the plunge but holding off till I see my neighbours bills. They told me their consumption is less but I'm not sure if they are reading it wrong and it's a contra of two rates
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TNB buy power start from the highest tier, so 0.571 per kwh. TS issue is use too much so gov already said to impose extra charges on high usage. Even use EV also at most 250-300 kwh a month, assuming you travel 400km a week and use BYD Atto 3 average consumption 16kwh per 100km. TS bill usage way too high.
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post Aug 9 2023, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Aug 9 2023, 04:53 PM)
meaning TNB never agreed pay more for the solar energy. so apa masalah?
usage taken from the grid is still higher than 1500kwh.

change to renewable energy but never consider to conserve energy.
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The problem is the 1500 usage limit should be NETT instead of gross.

So Usage should discount the solar generation baru apply the 1500kwh limit to be fair.
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post Aug 9 2023, 05:57 PM

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meaning they kira first, after that only deduct solar.

not deduct solar first baru kira.

edit: lol lucky never install solar, i wanted to, waifu told me jangan. moral of the story, listen to waifu.

This post has been edited by loserguy: Aug 9 2023, 06:02 PM
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post Aug 9 2023, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Aug 9 2023, 05:55 PM)
But fact is driving EV charging is proved cheaper than petrol kan  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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If only can request separate meter and not linked to main house energy usage for charging purposes alone
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post Aug 9 2023, 05:58 PM

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simple terms is :

ICPT charges based on what total kwh u use, without deducting the kwh you export (from solar) before final calculation


correct?
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post Aug 9 2023, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Aug 9 2023, 05:51 PM)
Whats the point of getting solar in the first place if you dont use much electricity, since the cheapest of solar is also 20-25k
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The point is to reduce bill but not to let you use more electricity.

Most of this people having this problem are installing huge installations to generate excess power during the day to offset their high usage during the night. In effect, they are not reducing their electricity consumption but increasing it instead.

That's why they get hit by this icpt.


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post Aug 9 2023, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Aug 9 2023, 05:20 PM)
Cannot malaysia rule you need to connect tnb. Unless you senyap2 lah
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wah. So does this means that technically we're in the wrong if we buy for example the small solar light at shopee/lazada? because the generated power by the solar is standalone and connected only to the light and not tnb?
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Aug 9 2023, 05:57 PM)
TNB buy power start from the highest tier, so 0.571 per kwh. TS issue is use too much so gov already said to impose extra charges on high usage. Even use EV also at most 250-300 kwh a month, assuming you travel 400km a week and use BYD Atto 3 average consumption 16kwh per 100km. TS bill usage way too high.
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Its not mine, its other people one. Mine i still leech free electricity outside to charge my car whenever possible
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post Aug 9 2023, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 9 2023, 05:30 PM)
if your solar is big enough to not needing to pull frm the grid
thn what are they charging u?
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Take a look at the bill
Isnt that current TNB solar got import and export
you can't solely depend your solar without grid unless you have somekind of power wall box?
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post Aug 9 2023, 05:59 PM

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Time to BBBUUU tnb stock
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post Aug 9 2023, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Aug 9 2023, 05:55 PM)
I guess that is why people are complaining.
The solar generated goes to tnb during the day when people go to work, and then at night, homes draw electricity from tnb. But seems that tnb will charge ICPT for both tnb and solar energy. That don't seem fair.
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the real way of doing solar is not sending your generated solar to TNB but store it in your battery like i saw many people do
even mah bayu themselves is doing it this way
basically minimize your need to pull from the grid
u generally use what u generated

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Aug 9 2023, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(imin @ Aug 9 2023, 05:58 PM)
wah. So does this means that technically we're in the wrong if we buy for example the small solar light at shopee/lazada? because the generated power by the solar is standalone and connected only to the light and not tnb?
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Small appliances still fine, but u cannot totally go offgrid
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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Aug 9 2023, 05:55 PM)
The solar generated goes to tnb during the day when people go to work, and then at night, homes draw electricity from tnb. But seems that tnb will charge ICPT for both tnb and solar energy. That don't seem fair.
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night time grid dont use solar energy, is it fair.
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TNB charge ICPT RM0.10/kWh based on total import, not nett total.
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Aug 9 2023, 05:46 PM)
So residential don't have the option of using generated energy first? So it's something like net metering?

I did want to take the plunge but holding off till I see my neighbours bills. They told me their consumption is less but I'm not sure if they are reading it wrong and it's a contra of two rates
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Use a system that has a battery

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