tak suka go build own nuclear reactor...

TNB already generous enough not buying solar generated electricity at subsidies price... so it should be fair already

Actually curious.
So far, is the investment for this paying back.

Because if it is paying back, I dun think anyone will complain.

My aunt invested a lot in this but did not ask her.

i think they have to look back the agreement whether got include ICPT or not, if exclude then TNB is right on this matter

They trial the ICPT until end of this year, let's see will they keep on continuing the charges or not

Actually the way it was done is fishy.
Paying more for buying those solar electricity then selling it.

Think about it. Why can't they just do it themselves. Like install those panels at shopping centers, schools etc.

Also surely got land to put also. I mean think about it. And just use those portable ones so that if the land needs to be used for other purposes , can move those portable solar panels away


Why give free money out like this

This post has been edited by BrookLes: Aug 9 2023, 06:09 PM

Tesla Malaysia did? Where’s the teaser?

meanwhile people that are not using much electricity are not encourage to install solar. so whats is fair here? so only riches can enjoy benefit of paying less electricity cost?
dont want to hit 1500kwh, then dont draw much from the grid, find a way.

if u want the contra way, should have do solar properly to have battery storage and have your household electricity to draw from the solar generated electricity first and the only topup via TNB electricity. not "sell" the electricity to TNB.. trololo... just like currency exchange, customer selling to bank, always at a "lost"...

Exactly, if they want tnb to offset that icpt then they should do this instead.

Most people don't even understand that no matter what they generate during the day, tnb will incur cost to provide them electricity during the night. Those transformers, generators and electricity infra need money to maintain too.

That's why high voltage users are also charged based on their maximum demand, which is their highest consumption in any half hour every month. Use alot for half an hour then nothing for rest of the month? High MD charges because TNB had to buy and service alot of equipment just to give you that power during that half hour.

These T20 people should thank their lucky star that tnb doesn't force this on them.... yet.

The surcharge is for those with 1500 usage and above. As simple as that.

So it’s better to control usage even if u are on solar or not.

But for solar user, it help to push the limit higher especially if morning usage is high.

Meaning some user use around 2000 units , but because the solar help to cover the morning usage of 501 units. So Tnb will capture only 1499 unit, hence they don’t get charge the surcharge

Wa tak tau

Rich people problem

unfortunately the thread is about tnb charge you extra 0.10 for the 2000 units even ur solar offset it to 1499 units.

Well. Initially tnb actually paid quite a bit for the electricity. But dun think this kind of deal can last for a long time.

Remember at that time, this investment was seen as "free" money.

I will scream also if I was tnb shareholders.

This post has been edited by BrookLes: Aug 9 2023, 06:15 PM

I know what you mean but the way you put it is a little unclear.
I'm sure people will get confused.

What he's saying is that during the day the solar installation will reduce the usage detected from the meter because the solar installation already supplied that electricity so you don't need to draw it from tnb grid

For example, during the day you generated 10 kWh, 6kWh of that is excess, while 4 kWh is used by your house, tnb will not detect that 4kWh used and it will not contribute to your 1500kWh cap.

How to charge tariff based on timing while the whole Malaysia still haven't enter into smart meter?

He’s talking about if your total usage is 2000, but 501 of that 2000 is generated by solar (eg during the day, hence total draw from TNB is 1499).
You’re talking about total draw from TNB is 2000, solar sell back to TNB 501, not considering solar usage.

Edit: ninja’d

This post has been edited by bamboohao: Aug 9 2023, 06:19 PM

Yes. Exactly.

One of my solar friend avoided the extra surcharge because of solar.

User complain.

User generates from solar; send into TNB grid 900+ kWh.

When no solar generation, user instead consumed 1800+ kWh from grid.

So in total, user's nett usage for the period is more from the grid; about 900+ kWh.

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TNB said
• if usage below 1500 kWh, ICPT rate is such and such.
• if usage 1500kWh and above, TNB will charge 10¢ on every kWh used, not just on usage from 1500kWh.

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that user is then complaining about 2 things

• his nett usage from the grid is 900+ kWh. Why TNB treat him as if all his 1800+kWh is generated by TNB alone. Then additionally charge him kau-kau on the ICPT.

• why not charge 10¢ for usage 1500kWh and above only? why must charge for EVERY kWh. Why not tiered-charge the lower ICPT rate for usage below 1500kWh.

when installing meter, pura2 not in the house, delaying installation as long as possible.

The summary is that under government/TNB’s new policy ICPT, installing solar panels at home is not an investment project that can see returns in the short term.

I believe some businesses that runs solar energy will also shutting down due to the new policies issued by the government/TNB.