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 S'wak ART progress: Premier TAK PUAS HATI, hydrogenized Kuching Public transport

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berzerk
post Aug 25 2023, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(haya @ Aug 25 2023, 10:11 AM)
Luckily they are not putting it on regular roads, but on a dedicated grade separated line for the proposed lines.
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The tissue paper said some sections will be on regular roads. If they start building dedicated lanes after the ART arrives the equipment could be obsolete by the time the roads are ready.
QUOTE(g5sim @ Aug 4 2023, 07:12 PM)
Abang Johari later told reporters that the smart tram would first be test-run at the Kuching Isthmus, followed by testing it along the Kuching-Samarahan route.

“Either it is through our new lane or on the road itself, if its own lane is not ready yet. We will try it first and manage the traffic flow,” he said.
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post Aug 25 2023, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(berzerk @ Aug 25 2023, 10:47 AM)
The tissue paper said some sections will be on regular roads. If they start building dedicated lanes after the ART arrives the equipment could be obsolete by the time the roads are ready.
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https://www.theborneopost.com/2023/08/24/wo...han-expressway/

Luckily they're building the lanes at the same time as the ART vehicle is being tested.

Even in places with a BRT system like Curitiba, Kaohsiung, Brisbane, the 'buses' still have segments that go onto 'normal' roads. If Kuching get's even half of what Curitiba, Kaohsiung, Brisbane has for public transport, that will be an improvement in its own right.

You know that all hardware has a lifespan right? KL LRT is not using the same trains that it opened with in 1997. Somehow I don't see the KL LRT being obselete.
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post Aug 25 2023, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(exclus1ve @ Aug 25 2023, 08:48 AM)
Which part of land got acquired by the state govt?
Near the samarahan depot there?
And how long the payout process took?
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I think Samarahan Road entire stretch got acquired, my family land located near the roundabout after Summer Mall.

The payout process haven't finish. We just know how much we going to be compensated.
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QUOTE(berzerk @ Aug 25 2023, 10:47 AM)
The tissue paper said some sections will be on regular roads. If they start building dedicated lanes after the ART arrives the equipment could be obsolete by the time the roads are ready.
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Bang, ni referring to testing POC period. Metro strictly mentioned in their website Art will run on dedicated lanes. Stop equating Sarawak DUN with likes of Rapini, Fahmi, Syed Saddick, n LGE.
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QUOTE(Chowda @ Aug 25 2023, 11:53 AM)
I think Samarahan Road entire stretch got acquired, my family land located near the roundabout after Summer Mall.

The payout process haven't finish. We just know how much we going to be compensated.
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post Aug 25 2023, 06:05 PM

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without dedicated lanes this is just a glorified bus that require more space on the streets.
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QUOTE(haya @ Aug 25 2023, 10:46 AM)
The Klang valley has shown that adding elevated highways and additional road lanes doesn't solve congestion.

The economic benefit of public transport is higher than a elevated highway and/or adding lanes.
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everyone knows it will not solve the problem long term but doesnt mean that u will never build one for the benefit of the people

imho, born and raised in kuching i know very well the mindset and sentiment of the people, die die will still use own transport, at least a motorbike or axia rahmah

i dont think they will even bother to use public transport, even RM1 subsidized bus also empty, people rather buy RM1.90/L petrol no matter how efficient the public transport is
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QUOTE(TreyLey @ Aug 26 2023, 12:18 PM)
everyone knows it will not solve the problem long term but doesnt mean that u will never build one for the benefit of the people

imho, born and raised in kuching i know very well the mindset and sentiment of the people, die die will still use own transport, at least a motorbike or axia rahmah

i dont think they will even bother to use public transport, even RM1 subsidized bus also empty, people rather buy RM1.90/L petrol no matter how efficient the public transport is
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This is likely cuz buses also stuck on jam.with ART, no jam. Every journey time is set in accordance to ART frequency.

Hopefully this will change city folks mindset.

This post has been edited by g5sim: Aug 26 2023, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(PATAR @ Aug 25 2023, 06:05 PM)
without dedicated lanes this is just a glorified bus that require more space on the streets.
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They are building portion of dedicated lanes for ART.
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post Aug 27 2023, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(TreyLey @ Aug 26 2023, 12:18 PM)
everyone knows it will not solve the problem long term but doesnt mean that u will never build one for the benefit of the people

imho, born and raised in kuching i know very well the mindset and sentiment of the people, die die will still use own transport, at least a motorbike or axia rahmah

i dont think they will even bother to use public transport, even RM1 subsidized bus also empty, people rather buy RM1.90/L petrol no matter how efficient the public transport is
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From one Kuching born and bred to another, it will require a generational change. public transportation systems of Singapore and Tokyo didn't start overnight.

Early days people still made the same thing: would rather use a rickshaw to get to my own place (Tokyo), would rather drive than do a LRT that only goes a short line.

Go and look at the history of the Singapore LRT (given it is more accessible in a language that most people her understand) and similar criticisms.
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QUOTE(TreyLey @ Aug 26 2023, 12:18 PM)
everyone knows it will not solve the problem long term but doesnt mean that u will never build one for the benefit of the people

imho, born and raised in kuching i know very well the mindset and sentiment of the people, die die will still use own transport, at least a motorbike or axia rahmah

i dont think they will even bother to use public transport, even RM1 subsidized bus also empty, people rather buy RM1.90/L petrol no matter how efficient the public transport is
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Honestly, with so many health conscious people in Kuching, it is not entirely out of the realm of possibility that people would switch to public transport
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3km concept route for ART vehicle from Kampung Rembus to Kuap Bridge to be ready by October

KUCHING, Aug 26: A 3km-long concept route for the Autonomous Rail Transit (ART) vehicle from Kampung Rembus to Kuap Bridge will be ready by October.

According to a news report from TV Sarawak (TVS) today, Deputy Minister for Transport (Aviation and Roads) Datuk Dr Jerip Susil said the route construction is actively being done to enable the trial run scheduled in November.

“We hope we can put it in the proof of concept (POC) in Samarahan and right now we are only constructing the route from Kampung Rembus to the Kuap Bridge,” he said.

On Aug 23, the highly anticipated ART prototype vehicle appeared on the streets of the Isthmus in a historic engineering run. — DayakDaily

Source: https://dayakdaily.com/3km-concept-route-fo...ady-by-october/


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post Aug 28 2023, 10:19 AM

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Anybody knows the cost of hydrogen if compared to electric or diesel for this piggyback ART size per-km? what is reasonable fare u think?
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post Aug 28 2023, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(spider955 @ Aug 28 2023, 10:19 AM)
Anybody knows the cost of hydrogen if compared to electric or diesel for this piggyback ART size per-km? what is reasonable fare u think?
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As a general statement, farebox revenue doesn't pay for the running of public transport.

Look at Singapore, KL, their fare pricing is below cost recovery.

The reasonableness of the fares for KUTS will be what the (B40) population can pay, not how much it costs to run.
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QUOTE(haya @ Aug 28 2023, 10:27 AM)
As a general statement, farebox revenue doesn't pay for the running of public transport.

Look at Singapore, KL, their fare pricing is below cost recovery.

The reasonableness of the fares for KUTS will be what the (B40) population can pay, not how much it costs to run.
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KL MRT LRT cheap cheap Nia. If use the month ly pass even cheaper liao lor.
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Aug 28 2023, 02:05 PM)
KL MRT LRT cheap cheap Nia. If use the month ly pass even cheaper liao lor.
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Yes, public transport in KL is actually very affordable. (Quality/service levels is another question) But regardless, they do not come close to even recovering the costs of running KL's LRT and MRT.
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post Sep 6 2023, 09:40 PM

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Updates - September 6

https://www.theborneopost.com/2023/09/06/pr...es-for-kuching/

Sarawak orders 38 more ART vehicles for Kuching

important note:

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To a question, he said the ART tram can be extended from the normal three carriages to a maximum five per vehicle if there is demand.


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A look inside.



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post Sep 7 2023, 03:04 PM

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Wait but quit small like smaller than LRT. How to pack 300 people there lah.

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