sorry if i hurt ur feeling,i never suggest anything,i said 'imo' i don't like er6f,the engine sound and design,people have different taste so its up to them,it's not like he didn't buy the bike yet and i'm trying to make him buy 'other' bike,duh...

imo nobody want to buy ugly bike,same like your gf/wife...

oh, I understand. 
I wasn't hurt or anything, just wondering because you asked him "why not buy XJ6?" and thought maybe you were using the bikes styling as a basis to decide.

No problems mate.

sorry if i hurt ur feeling,i never suggest anything,i said 'imo' i don't like er6f,the engine sound and design,people have different taste so its up to them,it's not like he didn't buy the bike yet and i'm trying to make him buy 'other' bike,duh...

imo nobody want to buy ugly bike,same like your gf/wife...

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Added on July 11, 2012, 12:13 pm
all i know xj6 is a heavy bike

btw do you think next year 250r/er6 model will be upgraded?i think last time they upgrade this model was at 2008 right?i hope something epic will happen next year...

oh, I understand. 
I wasn't hurt or anything, just wondering because you asked him "why not buy XJ6?" and thought maybe you were using the bikes styling as a basis to decide.

No problems mate.

no worry bout the "ugly" side... we are all mature enough to think and analyze and def. wont get blood boiling over just a comment. a better EQ is needed to ride a bike really .... else we are no different than those mat rempit

as for upgrade.... well, all bike, sooner or later will be upgraded and thts business. and if i m really of thinking of upgrading.... it wont be anohter new er6 but liter bike 
pheeew... thts cool.

i was so worry tht my posting causes misunderstanding. 

Just got my bike. Rode it just now.... Still not very good in the gear shifting... Stalled a couple of times at low speed.

When stopping shifting down gives me a lil problem... I guess I just need more time to practice ...

Hahaha didn't expect tht driving slow is the major problem.... Beginner tht is

congrats bro. maybe you can share some photo here 
Always shifting down before you completely stop and blip the throttle while shifting. It will help much.
Enjoy your ride and safe ride always 
 
Btw, when this thread can go V2??

why must we rev it while shifting down, as i m holding the clutch all the way till it gets to N? 

sorry, am a noob here.... why in most of the thread, there alwasy ask for a new thread? i dont see any problem for us continuing with this thread.. 

LOL... sorry if i asked too much 

When you downshift, the engine will need to move at a faster rate in order to match the wheels - simple enough. So the throttle blip is to match the revs.

But that's what you are accomplishing by doing it, not really why you do it. You have to look at the situation of where you downshift... generally at the end of a braking zone right before/during/after turn-in. If you are at the limits of traction - which is likely most of the time you are braking and/or turning, then not matching revs will cause the rear wheels to jerk and/or lock momentarily as the wheels force the engine to come up to revs/the engine forces the wheels to slow down a little. Doesn't sound like much, but when you are at the limits of adhession, this means your back wheels will brake loose. At the best you will miss your braking zone and have a less than ideal line through the turn... but depending on your differential or if you are trail braking or any other number of surface related possibilities, you'll spin (you could brake in a straight line, then shift when off the brakes, and then turn-in... but keeping this distinctly seperate is much slower, and once it starts to overlap, then it must be done smoothly).

As to what's been said so far, it's the down shift that is done to keep the engine in it's power band... heel-toe is done to do that shift smoothly and without incident.

why must we rev it while shifting down, as i m holding the clutch all the way till it gets to N? 

sorry, am a noob here.... why in most of the thread, there alwasy ask for a new thread? i dont see any problem for us continuing with this thread.. 

LOL... sorry if i asked too much 

Just give a try on your next ride and tell later how is it 

yeap... pretty easy to get it going but smooth gear shifting is still a long way to go.

do you think its okay for a person who never rode a bike at all except bicycle to start on a 650?
ie blade 650r or er6f

well... i used to ride a yamaha CDi ... thts a 90cc bike... more than 20 yrs back. ER6 f is totally a different experience, with hand clutch and a lot heavier ...

so far so good as a beginner. stalled a couple of times and getting myself to get used to the weight of the bike.

seriously, it is not fun when u want to push the bike backward from the parking (i m a 165cm shortie haha) 

do u push the bike backward after u hv ride on it...or u push it at the side? 

u at least have some experience on back 20 year ago, some have 0

that is experience ....
now u know why biker park reverse ?? hehhehheeh

btw have you ever heard akrapovic/arrow exhaust sound of 250r on the road b4 this?i planning to buy between this 2 exhaust later when i purchase 250r 

ps; i didnt notice ur sig 

well... i used to ride a yamaha CDi ... thts a 90cc bike... more than 20 yrs back. ER6 f is totally a different experience, with hand clutch and a lot heavier ...

so far so good as a beginner. stalled a couple of times and getting myself to get used to the weight of the bike.

seriously, it is not fun when u want to push the bike backward from the parking (i m a 165cm shortie haha) 

do u push the bike backward after u hv ride on it...or u push it at the side? 

well... i used to ride a yamaha CDi ... thts a 90cc bike... more than 20 yrs back. ER6 f is totally a different experience, with hand clutch and a lot heavier ...

so far so good as a beginner. stalled a couple of times and getting myself to get used to the weight of the bike.

seriously, it is not fun when u want to push the bike backward from the parking (i m a 165cm shortie haha) 

do u push the bike backward after u hv ride on it...or u push it at the side? 

bro ... push at the side much safer and with the side stand down to be on the safe side. My height is 5'6" and until now I still push it rather than taking a risk sked tumbang ... malu. 

If I need to push my bike backwards, I will stand close at front facing the bike. I grabbed handle with both hand and push back with little help from my stomach balancing the bike. Can imagine how I do? Side stand must be down to be safe.

You can push from side of the bike, 1 hand on handle and 1 hand on rear tail or even both hand on handle and pull back but im only 58kg and my bike is nearly 190kg with full tank, I can’t really do that. Same if let say your bike fell down, how you gonna lift up if you are alone? You shall know the answer 

if u sit on it and using you toe to push it bit by bit, chances of u falling is slimmer no? but of course it doesnt look good .. 
ya i hv tried pushing from side of the bike, 1 hand on handle and 1 hand on rear tail ...but tummy?? wow, tht s another level of coolness LOL ... i mean... how u use ur tummy to support la bro 

How do you guys push the bike from the side fast ah? I can but slow slow only can cause scared fall on the other side. I see other bikers push so damn fast.