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News Ukraine army launches large assault on SE Ukraine, Probable probing attack on Russian lines

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AriReo
post Jun 8 2023, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jun 8 2023, 09:17 AM)
i thought russia said is not about land grab? is about change ukraine govt?
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From what I know/read, the region already do referendum to join back to russia, that why call special operation? the west part of ukraina mostly pro russia and russian speaker include odessa. the people are being oppressed included the military then create separatist, then mother rassia came to save her child and bring them back.
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QUOTE(AriReo @ Jun 8 2023, 12:47 PM)
From what I know/read, the region already do referendum to join back to russia, that why call special operation? the west part of ukraina mostly pro russia and russian speaker include odessa. the people are being oppressed included the military then create separatist, then mother rassia came to save her child and bring them back.
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invade and do referendum

i see


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post Jun 8 2023, 05:13 PM

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Russian Telegram is buzzing with the rumor that the first bounty on western armor has been claimed, reportedly an M2 Bradley IFV

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post Jun 8 2023, 05:36 PM

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Russia reports that they destroyed 4 Bradleys before any even arrived in Ukraine.

You listen to Russian war reports, you bodo tahap gaban.

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 7 2023, 08:02 PM)
Looks like the Russians took out a good number of Ukrainian tanks and other armored vehicles, I see around 10-11 either destroyed or abandoned

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Awesome....
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 8 2023, 05:13 PM)
Russian Telegram is buzzing with the rumor that the first bounty on western armor has been claimed, reportedly an M2 Bradley IFV

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Oh nice......
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post Jun 8 2023, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(arubin @ Jun 8 2023, 05:36 PM)
Russia reports that they destroyed 4 Bradleys before any even arrived in Ukraine.

You listen to Russian war reports, you bodo tahap gaban.
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By the looks of things, there will most likely be photo/video evidence this time
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QUOTE(AriReo @ Jun 8 2023, 12:47 PM)
From what I know/read, the region already do referendum to join back to russia, that why call special operation? the west part of ukraina mostly pro russia and russian speaker include odessa. the people are being oppressed included the military then create separatist, then mother rassia came to save her child and bring them back.
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A reminder that back when Ukraine declared independence from Russia, the results from Crimea were actually in favor of being independent from Russia.

That area is only pro Russia since the 2014 invasion with the Ukrainians fleeing and more Russians moving in.

So don't bullshit me about Russia saving anyone. You're not fooling anyone.
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Note: Wow I never realized how the M113 was so perfectly rectangular laugh.gif

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post Jun 8 2023, 05:49 PM

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just be patience,
no offensive against a peer to peer will not incur losses.

it would be naive to expect that Ukrainian probing attacks won't incur losses but the good thing is, some of these probing attacks actually broke through and capture territory as claim on russian telegram channels.

while Ukrainian is in tight OPSEC and the russian media is ablaze with panic, we probably see some changes by end of this week.


QUOTE(arubin @ Jun 8 2023, 05:36 PM)
Russia reports that they destroyed 4 Bradleys before any even arrived in Ukraine.

You listen to Russian war reports, you bodo tahap gaban.
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post Jun 8 2023, 05:52 PM

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Again, this war totally broke my trust of people on socmed drawing large arrows on maps
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post Jun 8 2023, 05:55 PM

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as well as people who post from sources who has history of using fake or edited images.

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 8 2023, 05:52 PM)
Again, this war totally broke my trust of people on socmed drawing large arrows on maps
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 8 2023, 05:13 PM)
Russian Telegram is buzzing with the rumor that the first bounty on western armor has been claimed, reportedly an M2 Bradley IFV

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Shouldnt that have been the however many leopards that got destroyed?
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jun 8 2023, 05:49 PM)
just be patience,
no offensive against a peer to peer will not incur losses.

it would be naive to expect that Ukrainian probing attacks won't incur losses but the good thing is, some of these probing attacks actually broke through and capture territory as claim on russian telegram channels.

while Ukrainian is in tight OPSEC and the russian media is ablaze with panic, we probably see some changes by end of this week.
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What I mean it's that back in January, Russia already claimed they destroyed 4 Bradleys. US only just announced going to supply. None have arrived yet, yet 4 destroyed already.

Russian weapons so advanced they can traverse time & space. Scared or not?
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post Jun 8 2023, 07:38 PM

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Videos of Ukrainian units complaining of insufficient support and suicidal orders from their superiors begin to surface.

Some of these 'refuseniks' even defy orders and are standing down until they feel the situation improves.

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I watched a video on CombatFootage /r.

War is never good and nobody should be forced to fight unless they want to.
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according to the video, ukraine army haven't reach the russian first line of defence yet, i think by the time ukraine army reach the russian army first line of defence, all the ukraine army offensive potential might have diminish to a point they have to stop attack and regroup.
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post Jun 8 2023, 11:02 PM

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Ukrainian forces have suffered losses in heavy equipment and soldiers as they met greater than expected resistance from Russian forces in their first attempt to breach Russian lines in the east of the country in recent days, two senior US officials tell CNN.

One US official described the losses – which include US supplied MRAP armored personnel vehicles as “significant.”

Ukrainian forces managed to overrun some Russian forces in the east around Bakhmut. However, Russian forces, armed with anti-tank missiles, grenades and mortars, have put up “stiff resistance,” with their forces dug into defensive lines that are several layers deep in some areas and marked by minefields that have taken a heavy toll on Ukrainian armored vehicles.

Both US officials say the losses are not expected to impact the larger planned Ukrainian counteroffensive. US and western officials long expected the counteroffensive to take time and put Ukrainian personnel and equipment, including Western-supplied systems, at high risk.

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post Jun 8 2023, 11:08 PM

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Unopposed by any serious air and ground-based air defences, Russian strike planes and attack helicopters launched incessant attacks on Ukrainian battlefield targets and supply lines.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/0...unteroffensive/

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