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News Ukraine army launches large assault on SE Ukraine, Probable probing attack on Russian lines

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 5 2023, 09:16 PM)
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there is a lot if happenings across the frontline.
most of the reports are coming from russian telegram channels. almost all sections of the frontlines are active.

we can probably expect this week will be the most eventful.
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jun 5 2023, 09:29 PM)
there is a lot if happenings across the frontline.
most of the reports are coming from russian telegram channels. almost all sections of the frontlines are active.

we can probably expect this week will be the most eventful.
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post Jun 6 2023, 09:09 AM

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post Jun 6 2023, 11:40 AM

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The dam supplies the water used for supply water to Crimea and Southern Ukraine and also water for cooling the reactors of the Zhaporizhia nuclear powerplant. Previous tweets have said that due to neglected maintenance, the dam is currently on a 30-year high water level.

This could cause huge problems.

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Ukraine need to do whatever it take to get US (& NATO) to be involved 'directly' in the war.

US can't do that coz the old man need to win election next year.

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 6 2023, 11:40 AM)

The dam supplies the water used for supply water to Crimea and Southern Ukraine and also water for cooling the reactors of the Zhaporizhia nuclear powerplant. Previous tweets have said that due to neglected maintenance, the dam is currently on a 30-year high water level.

This could cause huge problems.

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where is west top tier MBT? roll out already? or still google for manual?
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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ Jun 6 2023, 02:00 PM)
where is west top tier MBT? roll out already? or still google for manual?
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Russian MOD claim they destroyed EIGHT already

Even I have huge problem believing that laugh.gif




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QUOTE(70U63 @ Jun 6 2023, 01:54 PM)
Ukraine need to do whatever it take to get US (& NATO) to be involved 'directly' in the war.

US can't do that coz the old man need to win election next year.
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Not only does this action severely endanger the Zhaporizhia nuclear powerplant, the hydro powerplant housed inside the dam also would be practically useless, making the power grid in Ukraine even more fragile.

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post Jun 6 2023, 02:41 PM

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Possible effect of the destroyed dam:

1) Flooding of Russian initial defensive lines and minefileds near the river areas downstream

2) Drop in water supply to Crimea via the Crimean canal

3) May disrupt inflow of reactor coolant water to Zhaporizhia nuclear powerplant

4) More frequent disturbances to regional power grid and brownouts

5) Drop in water level upstream, easier for Ukraine to do amphibious invasion across the Dniepr?

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there is some discussion that this is done by russian side.

Ukraine lacks amphibious ability to transport large troops across the river without getting blown and shot at.

any.large scale offensive will be likely through land and this incident will make the land area available even more narrow to reach Crimea.

but could be due to mismanagement and damage from last year explosion.
the damn was reported to be very full at the time of breaking and locals so far did not report any explosion or loud sound.




QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 6 2023, 02:41 PM)
Possible effect of the destroyed dam:

1) Flooding of Russian initial defensive lines and minefileds near the river areas downstream

2) Drop in water supply to Crimea via the Crimean canal

3) May disrupt inflow of reactor coolant water to Zhaporizhia nuclear powerplant

4) More frequent disturbances to regional power grid and brownouts

5) Drop in water level upstream, easier for Ukraine to do amphibious invasion across the Dniepr?

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any ukraine attack on kherson oblast will be almost unlikely because of the flooding in kherson.
wonder russian will hit the dam in kyiv for retaliation?
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jun 6 2023, 02:46 PM)
there is some discussion that this is done by russian side.

Ukraine lacks amphibious ability to transport large troops across the river without getting blown and shot at.

any.large scale offensive will be likely through land and this incident will make the land area available even more narrow to reach Crimea.
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Russia already control the dam and the water locks tho. If they want to do something like that it would probably be in a controlled manner, not by blowing the dam.

Plus according to topography maps, the Russian side of the river is lower in elevation so flooding would affect the Russian defence line more, which the Russians have invested considerable time preparing up to now.

This would also reduce flow to the Crimean canal which was blocked by Ukraine in 2014 and was recently restored by Russia.

As I stated above, Russia has a lot more to lose in the destruction of the dam.

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post Jun 6 2023, 03:32 PM

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this is just me but i think the ability to disrupt, slow down, affect Ukrainian counter offensive, especially towards Crimea, take precedence over trenches, dragon teeth, and especially lack of manpower to defend them.

plus having less lands to defend means it will be more consolidated than having a bigger frontline.

this is just my logic, i could be wrong and maybe the Ukrainians did have a lot of means to cross river.

just to add Crimea use to have no water from canals until Feb 2022 so not so critical.

i am surprised no video of the dam at the point of breaking comes out, usually these videos are very quickly posted.




QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 6 2023, 02:55 PM)
Russia already control the dam and the water locks tho. If they want to do something like that it would probably be in a controlled manner, not by blowing the dam.

Plus according to topography maps, the Russian side of the river is lower in elevation so flooding would affect the Russian defence line more, which the Russians have invested considerable time preparing up to now.

This would also reduce flow to the Crimean canal which was blocked by Ukraine in 2014 and was recently restored by Russia.

As I stated above, Russia has a lot more to lose in the destruction of the dam.
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So ukraine and russia both fucked by the dam?
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QUOTE(James831 @ Jun 6 2023, 02:52 PM)
any ukraine attack on kherson oblast will be almost unlikely because of the flooding in kherson.
wonder russian will hit the dam in kyiv for retaliation?
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Since russia cant capture kyiv

Y not


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post Jun 6 2023, 03:37 PM

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even before the dam exploded it be unlikely as Ukrainian have no able to shown they are capable of large river crossing operations.

and if send trickle of troops across at one time, it probably be a suicide mission.

edit.
but i think this dam flooding is a bane to both sides.

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