QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 5 2023, 04:13 PM)
Whoo nice!!!! Hopefully got some fireworksNews Ukraine army launches large assault on SE Ukraine, Probable probing attack on Russian lines
News Ukraine army launches large assault on SE Ukraine, Probable probing attack on Russian lines
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Jun 8 2023, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 8 2023, 10:58 AM) Russian sources say Russian Aerospace Force strike planes and attack helicopters are being deployed non-stop all along the front to try and contain Ukrainian assaults. They are brave... See what happens...The Ukrainians are literally trying to commit to a large-scale ground offensive with no air cover whatsoever. |
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Jun 8 2023, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jun 8 2023, 08:37 AM) It's fake of course.You won't see just smoke... This is how a destroyed leo2 looks like. It's embarrassing..... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-53...ssed-Syria.html |
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Jun 8 2023, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 9 2023, 01:58 PM) I think at this time at least the wreckages would be in front of the Russian positions, would it not? Will need some time to recover them and put them on display. But yes, will be done... Just like Ukraine displaying those destroyed Russia ta ks in Kiev.... Russia used to display capture German tanks in Moscow during ww2 too...haha. |
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Jun 9 2023, 01:51 PM) post the wreckage pics then since the defenders are russian and the destroyed stuff be in russian held territory Wait lar.. need time to salvage them, then ship them to moscow for display.Anyway, Ukraine is not expected to do well... They literally go ahead with offensive without any air support. This post has been edited by bengm2019: Jun 9 2023, 02:03 PM |
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 9 2023, 02:06 PM) Until now there are no reports of any Ukrainian breakthrough of the Russian defensive lines. If I'm not mistaken all of the fighting now occurs on the so-called 'grey zone', the no man's land between both sides. Ukraine will have very very hard time making any advances... Very hard..Any Ukrainian losses would be either still among Ukrainian lines or inaccessible in the grey zone. Ukraine has no air cover to take out Russia artillery and other positions. No doubt they have himars but attacking russian when they are on a defensive position is totally different compared to them attacking. |
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Jun 9 2023, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Jun 9 2023, 02:10 PM) even history legends also no updates on the battlefield cos then situation is very dynamic i guess, alot happening between both sides Won't have for a while...... I don't foresee any breakthroughs anytime soon, if ever.... No air cover to soften enemy positions... Himars can help but not enough. Artillery also not enough. Russians simply pounding Ukraine with arty once they get within range... Nothing to take out those arty. Then nothing much left to take out those russian planes and helicopters too... This post has been edited by bengm2019: Jun 9 2023, 02:14 PM |
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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Jun 5 2023, 04:59 PM) Still useful for precision missile attacks. They yet to carry out high altitude aerial bombing though....Imagine dozens of tu95 doing carpet bombing.....wow.... This post has been edited by bengm2019: Jun 9 2023, 02:15 PM |
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 9 2023, 02:16 PM) For now I would guess no solid, confirmable proof of losses. I don't expect high losses for Russia side right now. Back then Russia losses high esp. for tanks because Ukraine can easily take them out when hiding.. Socmed does have a lot of drone vids/pics of Ukrainian armor being destroyed, but if you're asking for pics accounting for wrecks on the ground, there's probably none right now. But now Ukraine is facing these tanks head on. |
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QUOTE(chaosneo @ Jun 9 2023, 02:40 PM) this is the question. How many leopard 2 and Bradley does Ukraine has?? Only a handful of leopard 2s (20-30 max)... So losing 1 is a big deal.how large is considered large? and no way we can ascertain the losses but one thing we can ascertain is the ferocious of the battle across the few concentration point is especially strong. there is day battles as well as reportedly night battles as well. |
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 10 2023, 11:15 PM) A dense minefield lay between the Ukrainians and their objective. And the Ukrainians knew it. They deployed at least one IMR-2 engineering vehicle and a Leopard 2R breaching vehicle in the hope of plowing away the mines and clearing a path for at least a company of 47th Brigade M-2A2 Bradleys and some attached Leopard 2A6s from the 33rd Brigade. The engineers failed—either because the minefield was too dense or Russian helicopters or artillery interrupted their efforts to clear the mines. In short order, the IMR-2, a rare Leopard 2A6 and as many as nine Bradleys piled up, out in the open. Exposed, under fire and taking damage, the surviving crews and passengers bailed out—and took their dead and wounded with them. But it’s a setback. And a potentially serious one if the Ukrainians can’t recover and repair some of the damaged vehicles. Ukraine’s allies so far have pledged to the war effort just 21 long-gun Leopard 2A6s and 109 missile-armed M-2s. The 33rd Brigade-47th Brigade battlegroup lost much as five percent of each vehicle consignment in a single morning. Context is important. Breaches are the most difficult and usually costliest phase of any armored offensive. What we’re observing near Mala Tokmachka could be one of the most painful battles of this phase of Russia’s 15-month wider war on Russia—for both sides. But especially for the attacking Ukrainians. Note: This article is published 18 hours ago. Numbers of Ukrainian losses have certainly gone up since then. |
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