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post May 10 2023, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ May 10 2023, 07:45 PM)
KK lack of facility (aircon) doesnt justify their lack of services.

Our first born baby, during MCO only allows 1 guardian to go into the KK. First check up takes very lengthy period. And u know it's hard to handle.1 month old baby. My wife went thru C sec has to carry a 5kg baby, and she endured it.

We went in at 8am and my wife finish at 11.30am.

TS, get ready if u want to get first few jab in KK for your new born baby.
Go early, KK is packed and the low fee attracts everyone wants to use KK service.
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post May 10 2023, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ May 10 2023, 11:03 PM)
5kg ,..!!! baby so big,..
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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ May 10 2023, 07:31 PM)
If can I also want go stand outside then go clinic say fever
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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ May 10 2023, 07:31 PM)
no it wont

our body can auto regulate our temp

not stone age tech like last time
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Newborns due to their small body size and development often can't regulate temperature well yet

Very easy to overheat or drop body temp
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post May 10 2023, 11:59 PM

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Dear Ts, i completely understand what u feel and what you went thru.

but i must tell you that, if you ever to try sue them or report them, base on your case, better think twice as you have no winning chance at all.

1 - Jaundice, newborn. How jaundice is jaundice, i suppose TSB is high and with the presence of fever = Sepsis until proven otherwise. This is the standard protocol.

2- Heatwave. You keep mentioned heatwave, and you are very confidence that outer temp are affecting your baby temp. In a way, newborn can poorly regulate temp, and if the temp go beyond 39 or 40, fitting is unavoidable and very likely to happen. = sawan. if that happen will be another big topic.

3 - transfer out. a correct move, no delay here. We have very limited sources to handle infant pt in KK.

4 - Antibiotics on newborn. completely normal for presumed sepsis. Genta and pen C are common even for 1 hour of life. another big to pic to cover.

5 - Pirivate and money. In this case, consider you against initial suggestion, so its AOR.

And yea, welcome to gov setting. With RM1, what do you need?
And if you are the gov, how will you improve with all this overload pt with limited staffs?


How if your baby really sepsis? maybe you wont have time to post here.
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post May 11 2023, 12:01 AM

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brudder, i would defend the nurse.
she has recorded a 38 degree which is not normal
heatwave or not; there is an abnormal reading

if the nurse DISCHARGE your baby and say it is a HEATWAVE but turn out she is wrong later and your BABY came back with profound sepsis and DIED. Guess who is responsible.
At least she take the initiative to send your baby to appropriate centres to work it up and LUCKILY it is not an infection

Mind you, baby with infection DO present with jaundice most of the time.
The nurse DID nothing wrong.
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post May 11 2023, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ May 10 2023, 11:49 PM)
Newborns due to their small body size and development often can't regulate temperature well yet

Very easy to overheat or drop body temp
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QUOTE(kakumei @ May 11 2023, 12:01 AM)
brudder, i would defend the nurse.
she has recorded a 38 degree which is not normal
heatwave or not; there is an abnormal reading

if the nurse DISCHARGE your baby and say it is a HEATWAVE but turn out she is wrong later and your BABY came back with profound sepsis and DIED. Guess who is responsible.
At least she take the initiative to send your baby to appropriate centres to work it up and LUCKILY it is not an infection

Mind you, baby with infection DO present with jaundice most of the time.
The nurse DID nothing wrong.
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is 38 even abnormally high for infants? might be high for an 80 yo, seems within range for a small mammal human.
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QUOTE(kakumei @ May 11 2023, 12:01 AM)
brudder, i would defend the nurse.
she has recorded a 38 degree which is not normal
heatwave or not; there is an abnormal reading

if the nurse DISCHARGE your baby and say it is a HEATWAVE but turn out she is wrong later and your BABY came back with profound sepsis and DIED. Guess who is responsible.
At least she take the initiative to send your baby to appropriate centres to work it up and LUCKILY it is not an infection

Mind you, baby with infection DO present with jaundice most of the time.
The nurse DID nothing wrong.
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Stupid TS, acah Kaya high class berlagak don't wanna go to gomen hospital

Once receive bill the buyer remorse so try to find fault

Actually no fault. It's not wrong for KK to refer. If KK refer, went to hospital , hospital should have declined admission if they don't agree with KK. Stupid TS pandai pandai then now regret lol
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post May 11 2023, 12:12 AM

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Why so many ppl spreading misinformation here? Konon 38 degrees is not fever in infants wtf. I googled and even NHS and US website says it's fever. Please guys don't spread fake news..

Plus apa LJ suspect heatstroke, if heatstroke then refer to hospital also rite Bodo.

This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: May 11 2023, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 11 2023, 12:03 AM)
is 38 even abnormally high for infants? might be high for an 80 yo, seems within range for a small mammal human.
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if you are a medical personnel and gone through med skol and peds posting; you will be very familiar with what is normal and not normal
our paeds bible has the ranges.
38 is def not normal

we are not bomoh or sinseh.
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post May 11 2023, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(valjoux @ May 10 2023, 10:41 PM)
Temp 38 in neonate will always be treated as neonatal sepsis until blood c&s shows otherwise.kudos to the doc n staff

Also,if the peadiatrician in columbia really sure its not neonatal sepsis,why did he treat as one?only reason is because he also think it might be neonatal sepsis and nobody can be sure until blood investigation are done
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Lol if TS sue, I can only imagine that pediatrician will be called to court

" Dr paediatrician , when you were referred this case, you started antibiotics. Why ?"

" Because I suspect sepsis like the KK doctor"

Judge: "Ok case kolos. Why are we even here? Kalau bosan sila____ "

This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: May 11 2023, 12:17 AM
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post May 11 2023, 12:32 AM

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Actually nothing wrong the way I see it. KK treated baby, escalate to public hospital. But TS have no confidence in public hospital and keep complaining about the heatwave.

Root cause is TS feel slighted by the nurse when she said fever pun x tau.
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QUOTE(Lembu Goreng @ May 10 2023, 07:27 PM)
Heatwave can make the thermometer show 38deg meh?
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No eh.
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post May 11 2023, 12:43 AM

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Lucky my side kk efficient..
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>private is better
lmaoing @ ur ass

you know those things you think are overzealous? private with squeeze you dry in 1 day.
do you know what they will do once you're dry?
they'll send you too gov

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post May 11 2023, 01:19 AM

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Sounds like TS are the type that follows everything wife said

Basically a pussy

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ May 10 2023, 11:59 PM)
Dear Ts, i completely understand what u feel and what you went thru.

but i must tell you that, if you ever to try sue them or report them, base on your case, better think twice as you have no winning chance at all.

1 - Jaundice, newborn. How jaundice is jaundice, i suppose TSB is high and with the presence of fever = Sepsis until proven otherwise. This is the standard protocol.

2- Heatwave. You keep mentioned heatwave, and you are very confidence that outer temp are affecting your baby temp. In a way, newborn can poorly regulate temp, and if the temp go beyond 39 or 40, fitting is unavoidable and very likely to happen. = sawan. if that happen will be another big topic.

3 - transfer out. a correct move, no delay here. We have very limited sources to handle infant pt in KK.

4 - Antibiotics on newborn. completely normal for presumed sepsis. Genta and pen C are common even for 1 hour of life. another big to pic to cover.

5 - Pirivate and money. In this case, consider you against initial suggestion, so its AOR.

And yea, welcome to gov setting. With RM1, what do you need?
And if you are the gov, how will you improve with all this overload pt with limited staffs?
How if your baby really sepsis? maybe you wont have time to post here.
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This make sense.

Sounds like coming from a real doc.
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ May 11 2023, 12:03 AM)
is 38 even abnormally high for infants? might be high for an 80 yo, seems within range for a small mammal human.
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I think after 6 months it's less worrisome, but 5 day newborn diff story. I really can't say not a doctor or even dogtor. I have an uncle who is deaf in one ear because of a high fever during is birth
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post May 11 2023, 03:58 AM

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If they take the baby temperature with wrong procedure. That it will cause false reading. Usually measure inside the ear is more accurate than tembak2 dahi. Previously i bring my baby to emergency hpj. They tembak2 dahi. Bodoh sungguh. But nvm. The baby is healthy today.
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post May 11 2023, 04:59 AM

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Seems like ts is wrong in this case and kk is correct.

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