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post May 10 2023, 09:34 PM

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Haha if no money to pay even for baby hospital bill pls put on condom
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post May 10 2023, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ May 10 2023, 09:24 PM)
Yeah they detained my waifu also when she's in pain but definitely not a labor pain. Threaten if she didn't want to get admitted , then it's not their problem . Once agreed , we told them that waifu need to go back prepare clothing and shower first because she doesn't like cold shower n wet hair b4 tido.

Then start threaten say will report police if no come back here. Eh cibai do i look like I'll abscond meh.

Nurse say got hot shower here la, just bring hair dryer here etc. Husband back pack. Ok lo, once balik, get msg no hot shower as expected , and no outside equipment allowed to plugged into electrical outlet.

Dah la first time pregnant, need to traumatise throughout the entire night until next evening only can see her. Cry alone in ward aduh.

Makes her suffer unnecessarily by digging the bottom once by nurse , and another time by doctor. No idea why even need to do twice.

Ended up is bacterial infection in urinary tract and got warded and i can't visit her at all.

After that experience , she decided to give birth at private hospital which is entirely different than what she experienced in govt one.

KK checkup experience on another hand is great though for mommy and baby.
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bang, patient lies ALL THE DAMN TIME. sorry if we have trust issue but no, we dont trust your words lol
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post May 10 2023, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 10 2023, 09:36 PM)
bang, patient lies ALL THE DAMN TIME. sorry if we have trust issue but no, we dont trust your words lol
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My waifu is already in pain enough, no reason to abscond lol.

But anyway , that experience made us decide to give birth at private hospital , and both of us felt the money was well spent.

She can't even imagine what will happen if she actually give birth at government one.
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post May 10 2023, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ May 10 2023, 07:24 PM)
Hi all,
I'm a father of 5 days old premature baby of 37 weeks. lm writing this post to share and seek advice regarding misdiagnosed, unprofessional, and terrible treatment by Klinik Kesihatan Rantau Panjang toward my baby. 

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On 4/5/23, we notified KK about our baby's birth as MOH website stated and also KK instructed prior to birth. The nurse was surprisingly quick to respond to our message and booked an appointment for the test, which is 2pm on HEATWAVE weather.
Bodo, kalau baby mati kamu salahkan hospital tak buat apa2. The way uyou quoted '

"he nurse was surprisingly quick to respond to our message and booked an appointment for the test" shows your attitude. doh.gif
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post May 10 2023, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(kira_88 @ May 10 2023, 08:20 PM)
IMO the Dr and nurse did that with the baby well being in mind, I'd rather have them over diagnose which then come out as nothing than just brush it off and then have a sick or dead child instead. sepsis in infant(premature somemore) if treated late is fatal. Unless u want a dead child then scold the nurse of Dr for doing what they think is right at that time to SAVE your child.

KK have to deal with a lot of patients so u wont  receive a 5 star treatment like u will in a private hospital and the working environment is not that comfortable too. So cool down and try to have a little empathy brah.
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agreed.

Even when the KK staf reacted very fast also this sohai complain.
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post May 10 2023, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ May 10 2023, 09:39 PM)
My waifu is already in pain enough, no reason to abscond lol.

But anyway , that experience made us decide to give birth at private hospital , and both of us felt the money was well spent.

She can't even imagine what will happen if she actually give birth at government one.
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Byk sgt kes abscond bro. The problem is, if anything happens, we always get the blame even though pt abscond. Haih. I

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post May 10 2023, 10:41 PM

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Temp 38 in neonate will always be treated as neonatal sepsis until blood c&s shows otherwise.kudos to the doc n staff

Also,if the peadiatrician in columbia really sure its not neonatal sepsis,why did he treat as one?only reason is because he also think it might be neonatal sepsis and nobody can be sure until blood investigation are done

This post has been edited by valjoux: May 10 2023, 10:51 PM
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post May 10 2023, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ May 10 2023, 07:24 PM)
Hi all,
I'm a father of 5 days old premature baby of 37 weeks. lm writing this post to share and seek advice regarding misdiagnosed, unprofessional, and terrible treatment by Klinik Kesihatan Rantau Panjang toward my baby. 

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1. go KK for jaundice bloodtest
2. Nurse measures baby temp on crazy hot HEATWAVE afternoon
3. Doctor suspects sepsis without checking other symptoms except for the temp
4. Crazy duo called ambulance and registered at Tengku Ampuan without consent or discussion
5. Trying to detain my wife and baby when we are going to nearest hospital, Columbia Klang
6. Baby gets venepuncture and injected with antibiotics on 4 days old
7. Blood culture shows no viral infection, unlikely sepsis
8. Because KK misdiagnosed, we suffer emotional and financial damages


My baby having jaundice, Hospital mentioned we need to do bilirubin test a day or later, at KK or BP after discharge.

On 4/5/23, we notified KK about our baby's birth as MOH website stated and also KK instructed prior to birth. The nurse was surprisingly quick to respond to our message and booked an appointment for the test, which is 2pm on HEATWAVE weather.

We arrived at 1:45 pm, KK Rantau Panjang is temporarily relocated to KK Kapar due to renovation, so we are seated in a tent with some shade net, it is still awfully hot because of the weather. Baby is sleeping while waiting for the nurse. Got called in at 2:15pm, there is air-cond inside the small building, but it is nowhere near an air-conditioned room.

Things started to become outrageous from here, Nurse Ziham measured the baby's temp after letting us wait in a no-air-conditioning area during a freaking HEATWAVE hot afternoon, the reading is 38c and nurse started blaming tone "anak fever pun tak tau???" despite my wife mentioning it is really hot and heatwave now... and requested to let the baby rest at another building or my car that is well air-conditioned, Nurse replied "ini sawan, aircond tidak akan bantu baby turun suhu" This really shocked us!! 

While they trying to cool down my baby with some wet cotton, my wife got called in by Dr. Harchnah, and she starts blabbering about the blood test reading being really messed up and decided to send the baby to the hospital Tengku Ampuan, but my wife suggested we will be sending the baby to Columbia which is nearer, Doctor says we cannot do that because they already booked ambulance and registered at Tengku Ampuan without our consent! when we insist, they told us even if we want to send to Columbia, we need to be discharged at Tengku Ampuan first, then only be able to send the baby to the hospital where we wanted. It's getting really weird and beyond our understanding. We questioned, if you call an ambulance for an emergency, then why are you wasting time arguing with us instead of letting us bring the baby to the nearest hospital right away?? they starts threatening to call the police and took away the rekod kesihatan ibu & bayi while trying to detain my baby and wife, luckily baby started crying because of feeding time, then only allow baby to be fed in my car

All that happened while l was cooling the car, l returned to the KK after my wife bring the baby to the car. That crazy nurse and doctor are nowhere to be found, a lady talk to me instead without identifying who she is, l listed the incident above and she avoided those topics, with only one forward action which is sending the baby to Columbia. She told me, even if we go to the hospital, doctor might not take in our baby... unbelievable! l made a call to Columbia Klang, the Paediatric agrees to take in the baby, and rekod kesihatan is finally returned to us.

Columbia performed a venepuncture on my 5-day-old baby and took her blood for 2 tests, a normal one and blood culture. We have the normal blood test report on the first night, the Paediatric showed us nothing too wrong with the reading, blood cell count, pallet are within range, told us to wait for the blood culture report, which is able to confirm whether my baby has a viral infection which will lead to sepsis, in the meantime, she will inject antibiotic to my 5-day old baby. 

on 9/5/23 we have the full blood culture report which shows no virus to be found at all, I'm really angry and frustrated at this point despite our repeated effort on telling the KK our baby is fine and doesn't show any symptoms, and also the way they measure our baby temp is questionable!!

because of their unprofessional behavior, my wife was very depressed when the baby's admitted, my baby had to suffer the venepuncture and be injected with antibiotics at 4 days old, and l had the burn a few thousand RM and time and energy because of this misdiagnosis.

guys, my family doesn't deserves this, any advice on how to escalate this to the right authority/person is very much appreciated!
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Typical KK staff nurse respond and their doc for trusting them without double check. Too many patient situation, and no qc on ho training. Arrogant attitude since they wont get sack.
But not all of them behave like that.
Anyway, it is a emergency to them if it is a febrile fit and hence the typical respond from the medical personel.
If u sue them, they have to defend themself. Previously the govn will defend for them but not anymore.
Anyway, nothing much u can do on them.


This post has been edited by Zhik: May 10 2023, 10:53 PM
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post May 10 2023, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ May 10 2023, 07:48 PM)
at least blood test was done

now u can have a peaceful night sleep

as long as ur baby is fully healthy la

why nurse so kanchiong ur baby

surely very cute n handsome baby
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post May 10 2023, 10:52 PM

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Under 5 mortality review is a mess.will do the best to avoid any under 5 year mortality.in this socmed age,sometime defensive medicine is needed.
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ May 10 2023, 09:39 PM)
My waifu is already in pain enough, no reason to abscond lol.

But anyway , that experience made us decide to give birth at private hospital , and both of us felt the money was well spent.

She can't even imagine what will happen if she actually give birth at government one.
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Private hospital is always money well spent, especially in important cases like this.
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post May 10 2023, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ May 10 2023, 09:01 PM)
You are dead wrong you can request for a normal medical report with payment of rm40
Brief specialist report for rm80
If it’s a litigation law case the charges is different
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Oh first time I heard of this.

What do you mean if it's litigation case is different?
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post May 10 2023, 10:55 PM

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I don’t understand, TS is angry with KK or with Columbia? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ May 10 2023, 09:24 PM)
Yeah they detained my waifu also when she's in pain but definitely not a labor pain. Threaten if she didn't want to get admitted , then it's not their problem . Once agreed , we told them that waifu need to go back prepare clothing and shower first because she doesn't like cold shower n wet hair b4 tido.

Then start threaten say will report police if no come back here. Eh cibai do i look like I'll abscond meh.

Nurse say got hot shower here la, just bring hair dryer here etc. Husband back pack. Ok lo, once balik, get msg no hot shower as expected , and no outside equipment allowed to plugged into electrical outlet.

Dah la first time pregnant, need to traumatise throughout the entire night until next evening only can see her. Cry alone in ward aduh.

Makes her suffer unnecessarily by digging the bottom once by nurse , and another time by doctor. No idea why even need to do twice.

Ended up is bacterial infection in urinary tract and got warded and i can't visit her at all.

After that experience , she decided to give birth at private hospital which is entirely different than what she experienced in govt one.

KK checkup experience on another hand is great though for mommy and baby.
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Dig by male or female doctor?


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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ May 10 2023, 10:55 PM)
Oh first time I heard of this.

What do you mean if it's litigation case is different?
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In accident cases law firms can ask for certain specialist reports as well from doctors
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post May 10 2023, 10:59 PM

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Ive been to KK for all my 3 kids.
Luckily we always got good nurse for all our kids.
I do notice some nurse and some doctors are quite unreasonable. And sometimes they just buat asal kerja siap tapi tak buat betul betul.

I really understand how you feel bro.
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post May 10 2023, 11:02 PM

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Not misdiagnosis

They were simply over-treating which is not wrong legally, because no invasive procedures were performed.

You can submit a formal complaint through sispa though.


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post May 10 2023, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ May 10 2023, 07:45 PM)
KK lack of facility (aircon) doesnt justify their lack of services.

Our first born baby, during MCO only allows 1 guardian to go into the KK. First check up takes very lengthy period. And u know it's hard to handle.1 month old baby. My wife went thru C sec has to carry a 5kg baby, and she endured it.

We went in at 8am and my wife finish at 11.30am.

TS, get ready if u want to get first few jab in KK for your new born baby.
Go early, KK is packed and the low fee attracts everyone wants to use KK service.
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5kg ,..!!! baby so big,..
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post May 10 2023, 11:22 PM

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Didn’t blamed columbia but KK medical personnel instead. Even if KK diagnosed as presumed sepsis or tro heart problem sekalipun, tertiary centre or referral hospital will take further history, examination and investigation before giving the exact diagnosis. But if columbia also gave antibiotic and completed them then they also agreed that it was sepsis. Stop being depressed for small thing. There are many unlucky mother/parents out there whose baby intubated or passed away. Sometimes you need to be grateful because someone concern about your baby wellbeing instead of misdiagnosed then discharge home and turn out to be sepsis.

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