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post May 10 2023, 07:47 PM

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atleast the baby safe...money can get
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post May 10 2023, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ May 10 2023, 03:40 PM)
Baby is fine now, the blood culture report shows my baby was never sick to begin with, this really make me pop blood vein

I might go other KK, but not this crazy one
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at least blood test was done

now u can have a peaceful night sleep

as long as ur baby is fully healthy la

why nurse so kanchiong ur baby

surely very cute n handsome baby
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post May 10 2023, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ May 10 2023, 07:40 PM)
Baby is fine now, the blood culture report shows my baby was never sick to begin with, this really make me pop blood vein

I might go other KK, but not this crazy one
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no, u cant change KK whenever u want. which kk will depends on ur house address

QUOTE(ReverseDark @ May 10 2023, 07:43 PM)
Yes the doc went for this asap, although doc says no side effect for taking antibiotic this early, thoughts?
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whatever risk is better than the risk of sepsis or seizure because of late treatment
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post May 10 2023, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(No Reason @ May 10 2023, 07:48 PM)
no, u cant change KK whenever u want. which kk will depends on ur house address
whatever risk is better than the risk of sepsis or seizure because of late treatment
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Then screw it, no more KK for me
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post May 10 2023, 07:51 PM

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Nothing particularly out of ordinary from your side of the story.
Unless you have more money to burn, go for it then.
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post May 10 2023, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ May 10 2023, 07:45 PM)
KK lack of facility (aircon) doesnt justify their lack of services.

Our first born baby, during MCO only allows 1 guardian to go into the KK. First check up takes very lengthy period. And u know it's hard to handle.1 month old baby. My wife went thru C sec has to carry a 5kg baby, and she endured it.

We went in at 8am and my wife finish at 11.30am.

TS, get ready if u want to get first few jab in KK for your new born baby.
Go early, KK is packed and the low fee attracts everyone wants to use KK service.
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not just low fee, for a new born baby, their checkup schedule and prosedure is comprehensive compared to private.
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post May 10 2023, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(No Reason @ May 10 2023, 07:51 PM)
not just low fee, for a new born baby, their checkup schedule and prosedure is comprehensive compared to private.
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I go to the TTDI one

Pleasant experience and got nice breakfast in the surroundings

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post May 10 2023, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ May 10 2023, 07:40 PM)
Baby is fine now, the blood culture report shows my baby was never sick to begin with, this really make me pop blood vein

I might go other KK, but not this crazy one
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Blood culture can always be negative if not enough blood taken.

We always diagnose based on clinical presentations. Numbers and reports are just there to guide, not exactly gold standard.

As I've mentioned, nothing really out of the ordinary. If you really want to sue, get a good lawyer and sue for something else other than misdiagnosis.

This post has been edited by cursetheroad01: May 10 2023, 07:54 PM
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post May 10 2023, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ May 10 2023, 07:45 PM)
KK lack of facility (aircon) doesnt justify their lack of services.

Our first born baby, during MCO only allows 1 guardian to go into the KK. First check up takes very lengthy period. And u know it's hard to handle.1 month old baby. My wife went thru C sec has to carry a 5kg baby, and she endured it.

We went in at 8am and my wife finish at 11.30am.

TS, get ready if u want to get first few jab in KK for your new born baby.
Go early, KK is packed and the low fee attracts everyone wants to use KK service.
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Prenatal check up also like this, arrive 8am, 11:30am then done, l dont mind waiting, but l really cant brain how they handle my baby
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QUOTE(No Reason @ May 10 2023, 07:51 PM)
not just low fee, for a new born baby, their checkup schedule and prosedure is comprehensive compared to private.
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Exactly.

But TS, bare in mind, this is public health care, not ur typical paid health services. Most thing are taken care by well train nurses, instead of doctors
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Hospital Ampang two doctors and the triage guy also can misdiagnose a serious condition like stoke, what more this KK. Some, I emphasize SOME of out medical staffs are badly trained.
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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ May 10 2023, 07:51 PM)
Then screw it, no more KK for me
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sure, but u need to be sure which private u want to go.

my baby missed a few (or one jab i forgot) jabs thats my baby supposed to take based on kk schedule just because the private we went didnt advised us and we didnt know about it

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post May 10 2023, 07:57 PM

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bagi appointment awal pun salah, arrange ambulance and admission also salah?dude.
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post May 10 2023, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ May 10 2023, 07:53 PM)
Blood culture can always be negative if not enough blood taken.

We always diagnose based on clinical presentations. Numbers and reports are just there to guide, not exactly gold standard.

As I've mentioned, nothing really out of the ordinary. If you really want to sue, get a good lawyer and sue for something else other than misdiagnosis.
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Baby doesn't show any other symptoms except that 38c temp reading, we had 37c reading at collumbia

Someone mentioned aduan can be made, l see how that goes first
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post May 10 2023, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ May 10 2023, 07:43 PM)
Yes the doc went for this asap, although doc says no side effect for taking antibiotic this early, thoughts?
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Be very careful soliciting and believing input from non doctors online.
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post May 10 2023, 08:02 PM

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What's Colombia hospital diagnosis? If they also diagnose and treat as infection.

U Vs KKM and Colombia hospital
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post May 10 2023, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ May 10 2023, 07:58 PM)
Baby doesn't show any other symptoms except that 38c temp reading, we had 37c reading at collumbia

Someone mentioned aduan can be made, l see how that goes first
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They could have been cautious.
If the day heat really messing up with the ear thermo reading, you might have noticed more babies being sent to the hospital. The ear thermo are actually pretty realiable.

Im not going to be bothered asking more for your kids history but the doctor might have gotten enough to warrant such suspicion.

I noticed youve mentioned your kid seem kalm even in that heat. They might think baby is lethargic.

If the staffs really are bad, they would have just send you home despite the temperature.

All things considered, seems like you are mainly dissatisfied with the wait and the heat. Ill say that's good enough to complain. Hopefully they will do something about it besides putting patients in tents.

But ill say it again, nothing seems out of the ordinary in your kids management.

This post has been edited by cursetheroad01: May 10 2023, 08:09 PM
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post May 10 2023, 08:10 PM

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its NOT misdiagnosis.
Its PROVISIONAL.
You nak diagnose properly need blood works culture etc utk confirm which cannot be done in KK settings.
You can suspect a diagnosis and do cautionary treatment while awaiting lab results.
KK did everything RIGHT by assuming the worse.



1. go KK for jaundice bloodtest
-Sepsis is one of the etiology for jaundice.

2. Nurse measures baby temp on crazy hot HEATWAVE afternoon
HIGH TEMP is REDFLAG in below 1 month old. Admission is A MUST. ASSUME SEPSIS UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE

3. Doctor suspects sepsis without checking other symptoms except for the temp
-As i said ASUME NEONATAL SEPSIS until proven otherwise.
4. Crazy duo called ambulance and registered at Tengku Ampuan without consent or discussion
- Correct Move
5. Trying to detain my wife and baby when we are going to nearest hospital, Columbia Klang
-According to akta kanak2, yes this is correct, They can detain child regardless of parents consent.
6. Baby gets venepuncture and injected with antibiotics on 4 days old
-early antibiotic intervention is usually done after reviewing FBC which might shows some elevated White blood cells.. again correct measure
7. Blood culture shows no viral infection, unlikely sepsis
- Blood culture is for bacteria not viral.

8. Because KK misdiagnosed, we suffer emotional and financial damages
-KK DID NOT MISDIAGNOSE

This post has been edited by FrostLance: May 10 2023, 08:17 PM
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post May 10 2023, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ May 10 2023, 08:08 PM)
They could have been cautious.
If the day heat really messing up with the ear thermo reading, you might have noticed more babies being sent to the hospital. The ear thermo are actually pretty realiable.

Im not going to be bothered asking more for your kids history but the doctor might have gotten enough to warrant such suspicion.

I noticed youve mentioned your kid seem kalm even in that heat. They might think baby is lethargic.

If the staffs really are bad, they would have just send you home despite the temperature.

All things considered, seems like you are mainly dissatisfied with the wait and the heat. Ill say that's good enough to complain. Hopefully they will do something about it besides putting patients in tents.

But ill say it again, nothing seems out of the ordinary in your kids management.
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Didn't reply TS properly since I view it more of his unhappiness towards the situation. Doesn't help that TS is probably a first time dad too especially with a pre kid


*Also TS, KK is not locked to your IC's address. Been to different ones from multiple states over

This post has been edited by rtk74: May 10 2023, 08:13 PM
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post May 10 2023, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ May 10 2023, 07:43 PM)
Yes the doc went for this asap, although doc says no side effect for taking antibiotic this early, thoughts?
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These doses are calculated by weight based on empirically proven evidences.
Unless there are mistakes with dose calculation, there wouldn't be side effects.

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