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a13solut3
post May 10 2023, 09:24 PM

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Yeah they detained my waifu also when she's in pain but definitely not a labor pain. Threaten if she didn't want to get admitted , then it's not their problem . Once agreed , we told them that waifu need to go back prepare clothing and shower first because she doesn't like cold shower n wet hair b4 tido.

Then start threaten say will report police if no come back here. Eh cibai do i look like I'll abscond meh.

Nurse say got hot shower here la, just bring hair dryer here etc. Husband back pack. Ok lo, once balik, get msg no hot shower as expected , and no outside equipment allowed to plugged into electrical outlet.

Dah la first time pregnant, need to traumatise throughout the entire night until next evening only can see her. Cry alone in ward aduh.

Makes her suffer unnecessarily by digging the bottom once by nurse , and another time by doctor. No idea why even need to do twice.

Ended up is bacterial infection in urinary tract and got warded and i can't visit her at all.

After that experience , she decided to give birth at private hospital which is entirely different than what she experienced in govt one.

KK checkup experience on another hand is great though for mommy and baby.

This post has been edited by a13solut3: May 10 2023, 09:25 PM
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post May 10 2023, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 10 2023, 09:36 PM)
bang, patient lies ALL THE DAMN TIME. sorry if we have trust issue but no, we dont trust your words lol
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My waifu is already in pain enough, no reason to abscond lol.

But anyway , that experience made us decide to give birth at private hospital , and both of us felt the money was well spent.

She can't even imagine what will happen if she actually give birth at government one.
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post May 11 2023, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ May 11 2023, 06:26 AM)
Heh ya think?
Yeah "nAK baLiK keMaS bAraNG" is a very typical excuse for absconders.
Digging bottom need to check for opening. Likely because your wife complained first. Or maybe it was about time. Many reasons to check but really, no one so free wanna prep and dig suka suka.

You dont get really get uti overnight, and for sure not without complaints of sorts. Not getting a visit is not one. Likely miscommunication.
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She's already in pain that entire week. It's close to labor date. But the pain is somewhere else. Women you know always got some sort of instinct la.

TBH, balik kemas barang is not wrong , because i have 0 idea what women want to pack , we have baby bag ready , but not overnight sakit bag ready .

It's not the every second pain once, but non stop pain, the pain got worst to the point standing is an issue.

Oh ya, not to mention , the moment she got admitted , hand kena cucuk by that big needle used for IV punya which is not used at all. Entirely confused why they are doing this .

Overprepared? In my opinion , that SOP is wasting so much taxpayer money and causing unnecessary pain more to what patient already had.

Fast forward almost 3 days later, she felt pain again but now she knew its labor pain. Drove her to private immediately and she gave birth without having meal for almost 24 hrs.

Women can be very tough sometimes.

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post May 11 2023, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ May 11 2023, 08:42 AM)
Its standard to ready iv access upon maternity ward admission.
Never know when your wife would have sudden massive bleeding or emergency op that will require blood transfusion.

You think too lightly of the danger of neonatal sepsis. And how easy it is to look out for it and prevent.
Better be safe than sorry.
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doesn't seem like it's a standard for private hospital though.

the problem is, she's not even due yet or confirmed in labor pain. which is why i have already stated, there's something wrong with the SOP there.


QUOTE(zstan @ May 11 2023, 08:59 AM)
the IV needle is for standby la. if shit happens only want to insert branula is it. then you will be the next person like TS to open thread here. doh.gif
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tengok seperti di atas. waifu give birth about 2 weeks earlier from EDD. im not sure which one come first, the cucuk, or the digging the bottom.

even the digging experience vs private is entirely different from what waifu say.

pain like hell in govt and had to go through the procedure twice on same day.
relaxed in private.

so there must be something wrong with the way it is handled in govt there.

i know it's free / super cheap yadda yadda, but it's still taxpayer money that subsidized everything.

from my perspective, there's so much wastage ongoing, things were taken for granted, service rendered is like we are at their mercy, facilities akin to very rundown clinic. so much improvement can be done, mindset of staff can be changed, but i guess at the end of the day, they probably tired of shitty patients as well.

inb4, tak suka kerja line ni, jgn kerja la. sweat.gif



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post May 11 2023, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 11 2023, 09:35 AM)
cause private hospital will charge every single item they use. if they put and didn't use, then you will be like TS open another thread here. doh.gif
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i actually don't mind forking out as much money as possible as long as my waifu had a good delivery experience.

that's the priority over everything else. the only reason why we go govt in the first place is because we wanted to experience what people say vs what we actually felt.

AND... your mindset is extremely narrow as well. what makes you think that item being used in govt hospital is not being charged back to us? kek. it just go big round way of telling you , hey our country medical subsidy is cheapest in the world.

WRONG. wastage is wastage. what works in the PAST doesn't mean it should work NOW.
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post May 11 2023, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ May 11 2023, 09:50 AM)
Its a good thing we can afford to waste for our healthcare because cutting corners in healthcare is the last thing you could wish our gomen do.

Besides, what exactly is wasteful here? The ambulance for ts kid? Absolutely reasonable. Kk dont have the facility for the baby. And it is an emergency.

Your wifes multiple diggings? Now that you mentioned edd lari 2 weeks, on top of the constant pain, the need to check is even more warranted.

The iv? As mentioned, precautionary step.

On top of the lack of medical knowledge, you yourself dont know what exactly happening back then.
You think our healthcare so cap ayam? You think our subsidised healthcare is shit? When was the last time you heard of maternal death?

Ignorant ungrateful bunches.

It may not be the best but its very far from the worst.
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i didn't say im not grateful for what is being done bodoh.

what im saying is things like SOP, service all can be improved.

what is the point of saving mother/kids but gives them a long-term post natal depression in long run?

we heard stories about govt hospital, we still decided to go for it because we wanted to experience it, but what do we get right even before admitted in the hospital?

threats wei! it doesn't matter other patients regularly abscond or not, doesn't mean you have to assume everyone here is criminal.

i went to private, i don't felt like a single cent being suck out of my wallet. it's expensive yes. we went to emergency ward the day before waifu gives birth, what the specialist said to us, your wife now open 1cm only, go back home and rest, she will feel better at home, i see no point of your wife getting admitted into ward today, waste of money. this is the kind of comfort that my wife was looking for and to hear from.

if you can't do your work right, then don't do it. so what if you are an expert in medical field if you have absolutely 0 empathy on ground?

EDD is earlier 2 weeks than the forecasted , not late. she is not even in labor pain, since when labor pain comes from side stomach? digging is OK, but why the need in brute forcing the digging? she can't even get to relaxed and was force to open leg immediately and doesn't even give her time to breath. is that normal SOP?

i didn't know it's normal to make a distress mother even more distressed before giving birth to be SOP in govt hospital.

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post May 11 2023, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(cursetheroad01 @ May 11 2023, 10:12 AM)
That bolded part, same thing will be said by any obg doctor in the pau clinic la....
Survivorship bias.
You guys just came to the private hospital when the tiding is smooth.

And how you know that depression is caused by the hospital stay when it could have been due to hormones or babycare stress? How you even diagnose it? What do you feel if i tell you you're just not that caring of a husband that causes your wife to be depressed?

As ive said, for the sake of argument, state what exactly the actual wastage you think is happening before going around accusing oH GoMen WasTeFuL
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if the personnel doesn't have such "pay peanut get monkey" attitude in the first, things wouldn't have to go that bad in the first place. so what's with all the threatening stance on us? we didn't even refuse a single thing that they've told us to do. someone else abscond doesn't mean we are going to, why would we take such a risk?

in case you think there are 2 side to this story, no, there's no story there. it is what it is. i have full respect on our medical professional and their knowledge, but not their attitude, which is exactly what i say, we had a great experience in pre-mother care and after-birth check up BUT NOT THE MATERNITY WARD there.

and yes i forgot to mentioned, i managed to meet the lady doctor that in charge of my waifu the next morning, that doctor is good as she patiently explained to me exactly on what happened to my waifu and what was done to help her.

oh, so you are telling me, i just had a normal 37.1c fever, and i ended up getting blood tested is normal in KK? that is my own personal experience la.

not including the waifu one.

This post has been edited by a13solut3: May 11 2023, 10:24 AM
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post May 11 2023, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 11 2023, 10:58 AM)
You wanna know the truth? if shit goes wrong with maternity cases in private, belum apa2 lagi akan hantar ke gov hospital. They WONT deal with complications and Obstetric Mortality.
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i knew about this since uni year already. even gov also doesn't want to deal with complication, but what choice do they have. but now we are talking about normal cases la..

perhaps just coincident that the hospital that my waifu warded in is just happened to be less than ideal condition one thus the bad experience.

if given a choice now for 2nd child pre-and-post , we will still go for normal follow-up in govt one, but normal birth will still be in private one. she's already traumatized.
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post May 11 2023, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 11 2023, 11:00 AM)
Fever is 37.5. No you wont get tested if its less than 3 days and no warning signs/red flags for dengue. Do u think we test everyone? No. There indications for everything.
About the abscond thing, you know that almost EVERYONE yg abscond says the SAME THING before they abscond. Do u think they will say , " oh we are going to abscond later"
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no idea, the doc just told me, we will be doing blood test for you. i didn't even have any symptom apart from headache and mild fever the day before. write me a MC for a day and im good to go to work the next day.

tbh, im a very straight-forward person, if i m not going to get admitted there, i would just flat out reject the admission, why would i want to waste time if i didn't want to?

it's still within our right to reject as she's not warded/registered yet. no need go thru the hassle of threatening us.

but one thing i know now since i posted here is seems like everyone agreed that usually patient will abscond. im amazed that this even happened.

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