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CPF withdrawal for non Citizen and non PR
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Ckmwpy0370
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 Jul 17 2023, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE(joyride997 @ Jul 16 2023, 08:42 AM) i thought the same. i called SG embassy next to Tan& Tan. they said need to do this otherwise, could be rejected and wait again, as i didn't intent to go to signapore. so i booked appointment, submitted necessary documents. took less than 15 minutes. note: My REP was expired 10 years ago.  Bro in this case, appreciate your advise what is next process |
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Ckmwpy0370
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Jul 17 2023, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jul 16 2023, 07:07 PM) From what I know, PR doesn't have "expiry date". It's the REP that allows a PR to enter Sgp as PR. If REP expires when you are outside of Sgp, you lose your PR because you can't enter as PR liao. Does that mean as long as you're in Singapore, you're still a PR if REP expires? I think so, but I stand corrected.   |
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knighty
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Jul 17 2023, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jul 16 2023, 07:07 PM) From what I know, PR doesn't have "expiry date". It's the REP that allows a PR to enter Sgp as PR. If REP expires when you are outside of Sgp, you lose your PR because you can't enter as PR liao. Does that mean as long as you're in Singapore, you're still a PR if REP expires? I think so, but I stand corrected. Edit: That's my understanding too. Found this from ica: If you leave Singapore or remain overseas without a valid REP, you will lose your permanent residence status. You will be assessed for entry into Singapore as a foreign visitor, subject to prevailing entry requirements. This post has been edited by knighty: Jul 17 2023, 10:45 AM |
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ynlowl
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Jul 17 2023, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Jul 16 2023, 12:34 PM) Sure not taxable is it? I'm not tax expert but I thought there is a recent amendment in 2022 whereby foreign income remitted back to Malaysia will be taxed?    This post has been edited by ynlowl: Jul 17 2023, 11:23 AM |
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ccschua
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Jul 17 2023, 01:53 PM
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do you still declare this in BE Form, and LHDN allows to deduct the total amount? or just keep silence.
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mushigen
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Jul 17 2023, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(ccschua @ Jul 17 2023, 01:53 PM) do you still declare this in BE Form, and LHDN allows to deduct the total amount? or just keep silence. I'm wondering if this money is considered income, or savings. |
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SUSceo684
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Jul 17 2023, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jul 17 2023, 02:55 PM) I'm wondering if this money is considered income, or savings. Good question. Because compulsory CPF was not taxable w.r.t. IRAS  |
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hksgmy
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Jul 18 2023, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 17 2023, 09:11 PM) Good question. Because compulsory CPF was not taxable w.r.t. IRAS Yes, you are correct… CPF money is not taxed in Singapore… very good point that’s been raised |
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mushigen
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Jul 18 2023, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 17 2023, 09:11 PM) Good question. Because compulsory CPF was not taxable w.r.t. IRAS That's exactly what I am thinking. |
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joyride997
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Jul 24 2023, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(commonsense @ Jul 16 2023, 09:43 AM) Do you mind to give details the exact steps for this? from online submission, revoke PR and documents in SG embassy KL? The documents need photocopy? all REP / blue IC / malaysia IC and a letter saying you would like to revoke your PR (with the day you submit, plus your mobile number, email address). |
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joyride997
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Jul 24 2023, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(Ckmwpy0370 @ Jul 17 2023, 08:42 AM) Bro in this case, appreciate your advise what is next process what i did: booked appointment at singapore embassy.. think waiting time is just a few days. then submit all REP / blue IC / malaysia IC and a letter saying you would like to revoke your PR (with the day you submit, plus your mobile number, email address). then wait for 8 weeks. they shall send an official letter from ICA or you can do self-pickup. then only do CPF withdrawal. this is the process told by SG embassy at KL. |
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mushigen
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Jul 24 2023, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(joyride997 @ Jul 24 2023, 09:03 AM) what i did: booked appointment at singapore embassy.. think waiting time is just a few days. then submit all REP / blue IC / malaysia IC and a letter saying you would like to revoke your PR (with the day you submit, plus your mobile number, email address). then wait for 8 weeks. they shall send an official letter from ICA or you can do self-pickup. then only do CPF withdrawal. this is the process told by SG embassy at KL. When is your appointment at embassy? All this while I thought their role is to verify your documents are signed by the actual person, and applicants will still need to mail the forms to cpf board. |
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ccschua
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Jul 25 2023, 01:43 PM
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its coming to 6 weeks but I have yet to receive any update, SGD already drop against the MYR.
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knighty
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Jul 25 2023, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(ccschua @ Jul 25 2023, 01:43 PM) its coming to 6 weeks but I have yet to receive any update, SGD already drop against the MYR. 8 weeks here with no update. Messaged them last Friday asking for updates and so far no response either. Gotta be patient I guess. |
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Super2047
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Jul 25 2023, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(knighty @ Jul 25 2023, 04:19 PM) 8 weeks here with no update. Messaged them last Friday asking for updates and so far no response either. Gotta be patient I guess. 12 weeks here  |
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gaijin
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Jul 25 2023, 06:06 PM
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Seems so troublesome to request withdrawal.
Wonder if better to just wait until account auto close , then only withdraw.
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knighty
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Jul 25 2023, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Jul 25 2023, 05:15 PM) 12 weeks here Yeah based on their site 6+4 = 10 weeks via singpass, 10+4 = 14 weeks via other methods...we're not at the max yet haha. QUOTE(gaijin @ Jul 25 2023, 06:06 PM) Seems so troublesome to request withdrawal. Wonder if better to just wait until account auto close , then only withdraw. If you don't need the money might as well just wait till they auto close and transfer to your bank account. |
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Super2047
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Jul 25 2023, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(knighty @ Jul 25 2023, 06:52 PM) Yeah based on their site 6+4 = 10 weeks via singpass, 10+4 = 14 weeks via other methods...we're not at the max yet haha. If you don't need the money might as well just wait till they auto close and transfer to your bank account. If wait till auto close will be worse. Your money will be sitting there yielding nothing. |
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knighty
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Jul 25 2023, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Jul 25 2023, 07:40 PM) If wait till auto close will be worse. Your money will be sitting there yielding nothing. You still get the interest till Dec I think, not sure if they'll pro rate it for Jan-March. |
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mushigen
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Jul 25 2023, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(knighty @ Jul 25 2023, 06:52 PM) If you don't need the money might as well just wait till they auto close and transfer to your bank account. Will they do this? It's not mentioned anywhere. Besides, they will need to verify your bank account, kan? |
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