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 Do u feel currently the buisness is very hard now?, after MCO open, buisness good or bad?

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SUSBrookLes
post May 11 2023, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(keybearer @ May 11 2023, 12:00 AM)
Sorry, can you elaborate the word in bold? Don't quite understand.

Anyway IMHO the worst of them all is EPF. Employee take home salary is the same, but business operation cost increases causing business to past that cost to consumer, causing even lower purchasing power as price increases. Definitely not the right time when the current economic downturn still doesn't have the light at the end of the tunnel. Not to say things like those aren't a good thing, but the timing couldn't be worse.

But I paling kesian is retiree / pensioners. They're mostly on static savings / pensions but these past few years of inflation gonna eat them up. It's also very difficult for them to find jobs at those age, whether because of they themselves or the employers (can't teach an old dog new tricks stigma) so they don't have much options.
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Actually what biz are you involved in?
The idea of charging more EPF actually definitely does not benefit the employee. Eventually companies will have to lower the salary to compensate for the higher percentage pay to EPF. So technically the employee will suffer. But normal people dun think like that.

EPF is actually technically government money. But citizens get gaslighted into thinking it's their money. I rather "earn" a little bit less by putting into FD that can pay say 4.5% and able to take out my money anytime and at most say 1 year when my FD expire then put in EPF that pays 5.2% but have to wait until 55 years old. And you also dunno whether in the future they will lower the profit margin to less then FD.

This post has been edited by BrookLes: May 11 2023, 03:48 AM
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post May 11 2023, 01:40 AM

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Non essential mall retailer reporting in..

2023 we had the slowest pre raya sales ever...

And post raya is bad.

Pj kl still ok..

But klang gonna face worst in 7 year.
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post May 11 2023, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(BrookLes @ May 11 2023, 02:34 AM)
Actually what biz are you involved in?
The idea of charging more EPF actually definitely does not benefit the employer. Eventually companies will have to lower the salary to compensate for the higher percentage pay to EPF. So technically the employer will suffer. But normal people dun think like that.

EPF is actually technically government money. But citizens get gaslighted into thinking it's their money. I rather "earn" a little bit less by putting into FD that can pay say 4.5% and able to take out my money anytime and at most say 1 year when my FD expire then put in EPF that pays 5.2% but have to wait until 55 years old. And you also dunno whether in the future they will lower the profit margin to less then FD.
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F&B franchise. I think you're mixing up employees & employers, and yeah, that 20% definitely benefit government more (or rather cronies, since they can quietly lobby for that investment, but let's not go there). But it not benefiting employees is technically correct, companies would just deduct it from someplace else (lower benefits, insurance, etc.), those that can't will reduce headcount, etc. Things can't be conjured out of thin air.
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post May 11 2023, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(keybearer @ May 11 2023, 02:45 AM)
F&B franchise. I think you're mixing up employees & employers, and yeah, that 20% definitely benefit government more (or rather cronies, since they can quietly lobby for that investment, but let's not go there). But it not benefiting employees is technically correct, companies would just deduct it from someplace else (lower benefits, insurance, etc.), those that can't will reduce headcount, etc. Things can't be conjured out of thin air.
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Employee thinks they benefit from this 20%. But no. Because like I explain, their salary will most likely be deducted. And head count will be deducted. And they have to work even harder to justify the higher 20% epf.

But then at the same time, they do not get to enjoy this increase in 20% of EPF until a very later stage of life. And like I explain. They may not even "enjoy" this.

Actually if I were you, i will tell your employee that you are going to increase their salary by 10-12%. But they have to set up a corporation or something so that they do not have to pay EPF and also you do not have to do that. You will pay them the salary like before. Get what i mean?

Ok I did mix it up upon further checking

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post May 11 2023, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(daidragon12 @ May 11 2023, 12:09 AM)
Food is good, but too expensive IMO.

I frequented a lot of fnb before, but now rarely as prices keep going up. Very hard to find a decent meal under rm20 in malls nowadays. Even KFC dinner plate is RM23+. A cup of atas coffee easily RM10++
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The food no doubt is good but with the similar pricing range, there are a lot of other alternatives.

I strongly believe, for a healthy business, you need a recurrence visitors. Those who come 1 & 2 times just to try & feel out the environment & ambient will give a very wrong impression that the business is good and can sustain in long run.
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post May 11 2023, 09:35 AM

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to prevent hyperinflation is good. I see people eating RM 20 icecream and yougurt or the whole family, don't you think there is big problem.

malaysia money very small still can spend like crazy.

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post May 11 2023, 11:12 AM

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FnB still booming. Every week got new cafe opening.
People still queue up to buy RM16 llaollao while some eating 2 dishes rice less than RM8 every day.
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post May 11 2023, 11:30 AM

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Ramen shop open a lot

1 bowl rm30-40
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QUOTE(Prometric @ Feb 23 2023, 11:48 AM)
My main business (something to do with construction) is really slow and quiet. Go around and check with my client all also say slow and downsizing / cutting cost.

But luckily i started my side hustle during MCO and business is picking up. Also just setup another company early this year, and i would say business has been fantastic.
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What is ur side hustle....mind sharing...?
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post May 11 2023, 12:16 PM

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pet product / food shop is booming too
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post May 11 2023, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(joey2000 @ May 11 2023, 11:12 AM)
FnB still booming. Every week got new cafe opening.
People still queue up to buy RM16 llaollao while some eating 2 dishes rice less than RM8 every day.
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Gomen servants and glc employees are immune from economic recession.

QUOTE(katijar @ May 11 2023, 11:30 AM)
Ramen shop open a lot

1 bowl rm30-40
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Typical in f&b business, when a business is popular and profitable, many will open but few will be around in 3 years time.

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post May 11 2023, 01:53 PM

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Furniture manufacturing, many company sales drop >50%.
US market..die
Europe market...die
China market...not that good also
Worst than 1997 crisis.
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post May 11 2023, 02:04 PM

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i read through many report, sometimes really not sure it is real or not,
for example, US. they said they still having strong employment, strong dometic needs etc. economy will be just soft landing
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QUOTE(TSEyeCare @ May 11 2023, 01:53 PM)
Furniture manufacturing, many company sales drop >50%.
US market..die
Europe market...die
China market...not that good also
Worst than 1997 crisis.
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will it be worst then when it is in covid time?
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QUOTE(DSV4600 @ Feb 23 2023, 11:23 AM)
Can you share first? Since you're asking the question.
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very bad, since the OPR naik just 0.5% that time, each month drop 90% buisness, no eyes c 0.75% increase in US mcm mana
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QUOTE(jrshow @ May 11 2023, 02:04 PM)
will it be worst then when it is in covid time?
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Believe it or not, when covid time their business actually quite good. It starts to get bad after the russia war, worst during china big lockdown, now just very very slowly recovering.
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QUOTE(TSEyeCare @ May 11 2023, 02:20 PM)
Believe it or not, when covid time their business actually quite good. It starts to get bad after the russia war, worst during china big lockdown, now just very very slowly recovering.
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i agree...actually many buisness is blooming tat time..
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post May 11 2023, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(TSEyeCare @ May 11 2023, 01:53 PM)
Furniture manufacturing, many company sales drop >50%.
US market..die
Europe market...die
China market...not that good also
Worst than 1997 crisis.
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QUOTE(jrshow @ May 11 2023, 02:04 PM)
will it be worst then when it is in covid time?
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Many importers and distributors over ordered and overstocked last year. hence, drastic drop in new order.

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post May 11 2023, 03:39 PM

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Selling factory machine and pats not good
Selling packaging machines and materials good.
Selling it products not good.
Selling food depends on marketing.
Sub con for buildings can be good or bad. Highly dependant on how many cheap foreign labour you have
Food manufacturing also highly dependant on foreign workers.
Auto industry more choice from new players. Competition will be good for consumers but not for sellers.

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post May 11 2023, 09:01 PM

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Well there is a reason its call a tightening cycle and also why generally it is proven inflation is bad for economy.

So when both come together in a globalised way, definitely it won’t be good. The effect will be lagged depending on each country condition.

Some call it a rolling recession, sector by sector.

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