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 Do u feel currently the buisness is very hard now?, after MCO open, buisness good or bad?

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SUSBrookLes
post May 10 2023, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(senscents @ May 10 2023, 08:56 PM)
Malaysia’s 2023 GDP growth forecast is at 4.0% and inflation to remain elevated.

For Malaysia economic growth is set to slow down in 2023 as global economy is expected to experience a mild recession.

“Withdrawal Syndrome” after “Sugar Rush”

Most businesses will harder next year.
Brace yourself on the Banking Crisis if they failed to manage.
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Still dun think the banking crisis is going to be this bad over here as we still follow islamic principals.
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post May 10 2023, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(keybearer @ May 10 2023, 09:17 PM)
Waiting game right now for myself as small time employer, because of rumors of further OPR hike, 20% employers EPF and further increased in min. wage (+ subsidy cuts post-election later). If math really don't check out may have to reduce headcount.

Quite scary hearing other businesses reducing left & right, less & less employment & money in the market.
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But most people dun really think and actually thinks that 20% employer EPF and further increase in min wage is a good thing.

And what is sad is, they eventually increase the EPF min age and decide to pay monthly payments for EPF. Then you give 20% also no use.

I really laugh to be honest at all these.

This post has been edited by BrookLes: May 10 2023, 09:59 PM
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post May 11 2023, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(keybearer @ May 11 2023, 12:00 AM)
Sorry, can you elaborate the word in bold? Don't quite understand.

Anyway IMHO the worst of them all is EPF. Employee take home salary is the same, but business operation cost increases causing business to past that cost to consumer, causing even lower purchasing power as price increases. Definitely not the right time when the current economic downturn still doesn't have the light at the end of the tunnel. Not to say things like those aren't a good thing, but the timing couldn't be worse.

But I paling kesian is retiree / pensioners. They're mostly on static savings / pensions but these past few years of inflation gonna eat them up. It's also very difficult for them to find jobs at those age, whether because of they themselves or the employers (can't teach an old dog new tricks stigma) so they don't have much options.
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Very simple. Just follow Singapore style of only above 60 years old CPF will pay and they dun pay everything but month by month.
So end up those people still have to work even when above 60 years of age.
And worse still if say they estimate that your lifespan is say until 100 years when the actual average age is 70 years.
So even though it appears EPF have more but actually the person receiving the EPF still have to work despite accumulating a lot.
Which defeats the purpose.
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post May 11 2023, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(keybearer @ May 11 2023, 12:00 AM)
Sorry, can you elaborate the word in bold? Don't quite understand.

Anyway IMHO the worst of them all is EPF. Employee take home salary is the same, but business operation cost increases causing business to past that cost to consumer, causing even lower purchasing power as price increases. Definitely not the right time when the current economic downturn still doesn't have the light at the end of the tunnel. Not to say things like those aren't a good thing, but the timing couldn't be worse.

But I paling kesian is retiree / pensioners. They're mostly on static savings / pensions but these past few years of inflation gonna eat them up. It's also very difficult for them to find jobs at those age, whether because of they themselves or the employers (can't teach an old dog new tricks stigma) so they don't have much options.
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Actually what biz are you involved in?
The idea of charging more EPF actually definitely does not benefit the employee. Eventually companies will have to lower the salary to compensate for the higher percentage pay to EPF. So technically the employee will suffer. But normal people dun think like that.

EPF is actually technically government money. But citizens get gaslighted into thinking it's their money. I rather "earn" a little bit less by putting into FD that can pay say 4.5% and able to take out my money anytime and at most say 1 year when my FD expire then put in EPF that pays 5.2% but have to wait until 55 years old. And you also dunno whether in the future they will lower the profit margin to less then FD.

This post has been edited by BrookLes: May 11 2023, 03:48 AM
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post May 11 2023, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(keybearer @ May 11 2023, 02:45 AM)
F&B franchise. I think you're mixing up employees & employers, and yeah, that 20% definitely benefit government more (or rather cronies, since they can quietly lobby for that investment, but let's not go there). But it not benefiting employees is technically correct, companies would just deduct it from someplace else (lower benefits, insurance, etc.), those that can't will reduce headcount, etc. Things can't be conjured out of thin air.
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Employee thinks they benefit from this 20%. But no. Because like I explain, their salary will most likely be deducted. And head count will be deducted. And they have to work even harder to justify the higher 20% epf.

But then at the same time, they do not get to enjoy this increase in 20% of EPF until a very later stage of life. And like I explain. They may not even "enjoy" this.

Actually if I were you, i will tell your employee that you are going to increase their salary by 10-12%. But they have to set up a corporation or something so that they do not have to pay EPF and also you do not have to do that. You will pay them the salary like before. Get what i mean?

Ok I did mix it up upon further checking

This post has been edited by BrookLes: May 11 2023, 03:50 AM

 

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