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 Do you really need a degree in order to work? No.

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TSbengm2019
post Dec 5 2022, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Manuk1188 @ Dec 5 2022, 09:44 AM)
You have concluded that Singapore doesn't required Degree - because u can go and applied and salary will go on up with number of years of experience - and still doesn't required a degree. (only IT field - that happen to you) what about the rest of the fields?
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Confirm 100% don't need.... OF course if you want to progress further you need. But its not like you must have one to start working....

You can always work first and then study later...
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post Dec 5 2022, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Dec 5 2022, 09:08 AM)
I don't even have a diploma .
Didn't do well in form 5, fail all BM papers.
Cannot enter college.

Look at me today.  What do you say?
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Boss, can me learn from u? Ayam not hensem but willing to work hard and learn. Attitude also wiling to change hope to be like boss generous and humble. Kamsia
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post Dec 5 2022, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Dec 5 2022, 09:48 AM)
44 years old with sgd7.8k at singapore consider middle income right?

your era still have chance as not many ppl having degree (yet) - thats why some company still willing to fund you for diploma and degree [this initiative still happen when i 2" join kuli company ..but now..wait la..]

now if you freshgrad 2" dont have degree (toilet paper) ; your application will automatic filter out ..how to get opportunity if your resume was getting filtered out by BOT?
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Means u need to do something out of ordinary
Like make calls to the hiring staff.. buy coffee etc .
Try and sell urself. Of course it's not 100% . But that's the only way to get past bot filter
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post Dec 5 2022, 10:27 AM

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Which unis your got your degrees from?
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post Dec 5 2022, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(bengm2019 @ Dec 5 2022, 10:25 AM)
Confirm 100% don't need.... OF course if you want to progress further you need. But its not like you must have one to start working....

You can always work first and then study later...
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Where do I sign up for the OF course. I wanna start streaming while I'm still young....
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post Dec 5 2022, 10:28 AM

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SGD $7800 incl bonus at 44 is decent ? It just twice garbage collector salary
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post Dec 5 2022, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(brkli @ Dec 5 2022, 10:14 AM)
ya TS you are right, grab driver and food delivery also no need degree. security guard and cleaner also no need degree. open your own business and become boss also no need degree.

just i dun understand why u want get a degree, master, phd, when able to work without those.. if you like to study, you can just go study and not graduate like bill gates and mark zukerberg..
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It's for self fulfillment....

U see those old uncles getting PhD. ... U think they take it for work?
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post Dec 5 2022, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(gogocan @ Dec 5 2022, 10:28 AM)
SGD $7800 incl bonus at 44 is decent ? It just twice garbage collector salary
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If convert he is qualified to be a /k member.
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post Dec 5 2022, 10:30 AM

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Do you really need a degree in order to work? no.

but u complete your degree @ 36 yrs old.
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post Dec 5 2022, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Dec 5 2022, 10:27 AM)
Means u need to do something out of ordinary
Like make calls to the hiring staff.. buy coffee etc .
Try and sell urself. Of course it's not 100% . But that's the only way to get past bot filter
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SME maybe got chance la with call and "bribe" to hiring staff

MNC if want to do exception; you need strong justification to entire management with shine technical achievements from applicants [like you holding patents that generate $$$$]

usually hiring staff and management wont do that as this will attract additional unwanted noise.

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post Dec 5 2022, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Dec 5 2022, 10:29 AM)
If convert he is qualified to be a /k member.
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provided he stays eat in JB..but in Spore with his age..that's still low.
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post Dec 5 2022, 10:32 AM

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if TS say no need degree, then why TS go and study for that?
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post Dec 5 2022, 10:33 AM

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LOL

You need education (which conveniently can say a degree or the least a cert) to progress in your career.

Yourself sendiri pergi belajar, parttime degree and Masters..

if you wanna make example of no need degree in order to work, heck everyone knows that.. just go work at McD right after SPM, tadaaa...you got work with SPM cert..

This post has been edited by das99990428: Dec 5 2022, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Dec 5 2022, 10:29 AM)
It's for self fulfillment....

U see those old uncles getting PhD. ... U think they take it for work?
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99% of ppl have linear thinking...either or, either or
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post Dec 5 2022, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Dec 5 2022, 10:31 AM)
SME many got chance la with call and "bribe" to hiring staff

MNC if want to do exception; you need strong justification to entire management with shine technical achievements from applicants
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Yep so if got no paper need to prove with portfolio and experience , and need to sell by talking to people... Can't rely on automated job application.

Ytd I watch a video on YouTube about how a guy became a plastic surgeon, his grades were not as good as others and he couldn't get get into uni to be doctor. So he resorted to calling admissions office finally got one girl agreed to help to talk to her superior and got him an interview. He said sometimes u just gotta try since you got nothing to lose.of course maybe nowadays more difficult because company might say just send in Ur application online .... In the past u send in hardcopy and people had to filter it manually so might be easier ... People will definitely have some bias . Computer doesn't .. u write a personal statement for people to read some sob story like this is my dream since young blablabla people might take that into account. Computer say fk it no degree filter algorithm kikc u out

This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: Dec 5 2022, 10:36 AM
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post Dec 5 2022, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(skeith @ Dec 5 2022, 10:30 AM)
Do you really need a degree in order to work? no.

but u complete your degree @ 36 yrs old.
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Maafkan lah dia... dia lambat sikit dari segi pemikiran beliau, hence konon-nya nak make example out of him for others to learn (no degree can work), but still tak menjadi..
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post Dec 5 2022, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Dec 5 2022, 10:22 AM)
I'll say I have to tell my kids to study hard.
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post Dec 5 2022, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(KineticKill @ Dec 5 2022, 09:00 AM)
Mods please move tered to jobs & careers tq
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I support move over. Then my many replies can be accumulated to my replies count. K/ tak boleh. 😅

And yes. No need degree if not studying professional courses. Waste money and waste time. Especially those that study glamour subjects when u come out still is lowest rank and know nothing.
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post Dec 5 2022, 10:46 AM

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Of course no need

You ask those flipping burgers at mcdonalds they got degree or not

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post Dec 5 2022, 11:41 AM

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got degree also cannot help solve real world problem face in each company. these problem solving require experience.

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