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krayden
post Oct 7 2022, 08:39 PM

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Fuiyoh.... Is that a pelican case?
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post Oct 7 2022, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Oct 7 2022, 05:25 PM)
damn. this is really over-protected lol

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post Oct 7 2022, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(krayden @ Oct 7 2022, 08:39 PM)
Fuiyoh.... Is that a pelican case?
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post Oct 8 2022, 12:18 PM

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to consume left-overs, my latest reference barebone is a mixed-switch build:

1. switches: sp-star white for mainly alphas and numbers, jwick black for the rest; both are with payson's poron films;
2. spring: gazzew's 65g long progressive;
3. switch sheet: ixpe;
4. plate: dxws' pom plate;
5. stabilizers: fl-cmmk plate-mount

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in terms of relative spring weights (based on typing feel of linear rated spring, and weight range for my comforts), i have gone through stock (60g, cherry mx red, my base reference), heavy (67g to 70g), light (35g to 58.5g), and medium (63.5g to 65g). i'm now trying to narrow down the range. while i can type comfortably within the range, i prefer lighter ones, ranging from 57g to 63.5g.

note that the spring weight of most switches, custom and mainstream, are within the range of 35g to 70g. it's like a standard range for most vendors now, based on user preferences in the past. hence these days we are good to go with stock springs.

edit: as usual, pom plate makes relatively louder noise compared to pc and cf. however, the typing feel is fine.


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post Oct 8 2022, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Oct 8 2022, 12:18 PM)
to consume left-overs, my latest reference barebone is a mixed-switch build:

1. switches: sp-star white for mainly alphas and numbers, jwick black for the rest; both are with payson's poron films;
2. spring: gazzew's 65g long progressive;
3. switch sheet: ixpe;
4. plate: dxws' pom plate;
5. stabilizers: fl-cmmk plate-mount

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


in terms of relative spring weights (based on typing feel of linear rated spring, and weight range for my comforts), i have gone through stock (60g, cherry mx red, my base reference), heavy (67g to 70g), light (35g to 58.5g), and medium (63.5g to 65g). i'm now trying to narrow down the range. while i can type comfortably within the range, i prefer lighter ones, ranging from 57g to 63.5g.

note that the spring weight of most switches, custom and mainstream, are within the range of 35g to 70g. it's like a standard range for most vendors now, based on user preferences in the past. hence these days we are good to go with stock springs.

edit: as usual, pom plate makes relatively louder noise compared to pc and cf. however, the typing feel is fine.
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long progressive does it make the switch bouncy ???
mine using 53 on my nasi lemak switch, need a bit of adjustment to get use to it whistling.gif
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post Oct 8 2022, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Oct 8 2022, 07:12 PM)
long progressive does it make the switch bouncy ???
mine using 53 on my nasi lemak switch, need a bit of adjustment to get use to it  whistling.gif
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long progressive produces the feel of a long spring (heavier starting force, hence firm/solid feel when you place fingers on the keys), but the progressive part of it makes the keys relatively easier to travel down and up, compared to a typical long spring.

the description above is based on normal/long/progressive springs with the same bottom-out weight.
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post Oct 9 2022, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Oct 8 2022, 08:01 PM)
long progressive produces the feel of a long spring (heavier starting force, hence firm/solid feel when you place fingers on the keys), but the progressive part of it makes the keys relatively easier to travel down and up, compared to a typical long spring.

the description above is based on normal/long/progressive springs with the same bottom-out weight.
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i see .. most likely yes since i m recycling the switches hahaha

thanks for the explaination

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post Oct 9 2022, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Oct 9 2022, 11:44 AM)
i see .. most likely yes since i m recycling the switches hahaha

thanks for the explaination
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in reality, all stuff in mkb modding, like spring weight, need first-hand experience to have better ideas.

i bought gazzew's 65g long progressive, because i wanna try out its unique spring design, and it's a backup in case jwk matcha and epsilon which have 68g springs are heavy for me. however, both turned out fine, because they're just like 67g to me.
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post Oct 10 2022, 05:00 PM

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does this setting work for you guys?
doesn't work for me after turning it on
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post Oct 10 2022, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Oct 10 2022, 05:00 PM)
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does this setting work for you guys?
doesn't work for me after turning it on
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not sure sorry; these features on mine are always turned off.

edit: from google, these features are for touch keyboard. they're not meant for hardware keyboards.

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post Oct 11 2022, 02:13 PM

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in general, setting up reference points are important for comparison purposes. you can just set them up based on own preferences. since the typing feel is about everything in a mkb working together, to me it's more practical to do tests by typing normally (e.g., on boards with identical setups). there are still relative differences in typing feel between soldered and hotswap boards. however, gaps between the two have been narrowed down progressively. also, these differences are relative, and they might not be significant in many cases nowadays, imo.

the main reason why i can do comparisons easily is because two of my daily drivers are kbd67 rev2, one is with tuned cherry mx red with stock 60g spring (soldered), another one is with kbd67 hotswap. these two are my base reference units, with almost identical setups and modifications:

1. plate type: aluminum, no cut-out;
2. plate foam: present, custom-made 3.5mm eva;
3. pcb: standard thickness, no cut-out;
4. stabilizers: gmk pcb-mount.

there are still rooms for improvement for both units, but they are good enough for reference and comparison purposes. since they use bottom-mount plate mounting style, they are not as forgiving as gasket-mount kits. that means it's easier for me to find 'faults' with them. (and fix them if i can)

practically, top-mount is the better option, because top-mount uses less screws, so it takes lesser time to install switches in the proper manner. by the way, the proper way to install switches on a hotswap board that is often suggested by experienced users, is to support the switch socket on one side with your fingers, and then install the key switch on the other side. this minimizes the risks of detached sockets from pcb due to misaligned switches, and also to make sure all switches are installed and secured properly. however, not all hotswap boards can do that, so just take this 'feature' into account when you're looking for new hotswap kits.

note that for hotswap boards that are used for frequent comparison purposes, it's better to use hard plate types with no cut-outs (e.g., aluminum, cf) compared to soft ones (e.g., pc, pom). this is because it's easier to install and remove switches with hard plate types.


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post Oct 12 2022, 12:52 AM

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Dear sifus... i'm interested in getting this Noctua keycap set....
https://drop.com/buy/drop-mito-mt3-noctua-k...969878#overview

Which keyboard is safe for me to buy and can use? if i look at the sample/demo picture, i think it is keychron, this model....

https://www.keychron.com/collections/custom...pan-jis-layout#

they are compatible since Keychron uses Gateron switch....

thanks!
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post Oct 12 2022, 02:40 AM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Oct 12 2022, 12:52 AM)
Dear sifus... i'm interested in getting this Noctua keycap set....
https://drop.com/buy/drop-mito-mt3-noctua-k...969878#overview

Which keyboard is safe for me to buy and can use? if i look at the sample/demo picture, i think it is keychron, this model....

https://www.keychron.com/collections/custom...pan-jis-layout#

they are compatible since Keychron uses Gateron switch....

thanks!
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Yes the Q1 would be a safe bet. Much better than the GMMK Pro.
Here are some other options (warning: Some are Groupbuys)

QK60
https://www.rebultkeyboards.com/collections...tykeys-qk60-wkl

Zoom65
https://ilumkb.com/products/instock-zoom65-...=40174258978898

Hibiki (Choc color will super suit the Noctua colors)
https://hibi.mx/products/hibiki?variant=43349931589870

QK65
https://www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/6...hare_attachment

Tiger 80 Lite
https://kbdfans.com/collections/tiger-lite/...=40685184057483
There's an alu version if you like

Mode Sonnet
https://modedesigns.com/products/sonnet

Sorry the more I look, the more expensive it gets.
Q1 in Lazada 500ish barebones.

This post has been edited by krayden: Oct 12 2022, 09:27 AM
cruzzmz
post Oct 12 2022, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Oct 12 2022, 12:52 AM)
Dear sifus... i'm interested in getting this Noctua keycap set....
https://drop.com/buy/drop-mito-mt3-noctua-k...969878#overview

Which keyboard is safe for me to buy and can use? if i look at the sample/demo picture, i think it is keychron, this model....

https://www.keychron.com/collections/custom...pan-jis-layout#

they are compatible since Keychron uses Gateron switch....

thanks!
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QUOTE(krayden @ Oct 12 2022, 02:40 AM)
Q1 in Lazada 500ish barebones.
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yes barebone will be around that price
or you can hunt on carousell and test your luck ... if you are lucky u will get a cheaper modded one hahaha

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post Oct 12 2022, 09:46 PM

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My obsession with Nasi Lemak ... dont flame me sweat.gif
Next will be the coiled cable

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This post has been edited by cruzzmz: Oct 12 2022, 09:49 PM
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post Oct 12 2022, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Oct 12 2022, 09:46 PM)
My obsession with Nasi Lemak ... dont flame me sweat.gif
Next will be the coiled cable

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if it's nasi lemak + udang sambal + petai lagi lah sedappp lol
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post Oct 12 2022, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Oct 12 2022, 09:57 PM)
if it's nasi lemak + udang sambal + petai lagi lah sedappp lol
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ill always prefer sotong ... yum yum yumm ...
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post Oct 12 2022, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Oct 12 2022, 11:16 PM)
ill always prefer sotong ... yum yum yumm ...
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suddenly i'm hungry :/

tbh, somehow, i always have this thought that niakulah will make a kuih lapis build some days haha

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post Oct 12 2022, 11:50 PM

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bro..the GMMK pro, you mean this one? K1 version?
due to budget....i may consider this...will it be compatible as well?

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-...anical-keyboard

this V1 version is using Keychron K Pro switches, i try google but cannot find confirmation if can fit the keycaps...

thanks!

QUOTE(krayden @ Oct 12 2022, 02:40 AM)
Yes the Q1 would be a safe bet. Much better than the GMMK Pro.
Here are some other options (warning: Some are Groupbuys)

QK60
https://www.rebultkeyboards.com/collections...tykeys-qk60-wkl

Zoom65
https://ilumkb.com/products/instock-zoom65-...=40174258978898

Hibiki (Choc color will super suit the Noctua colors)
https://hibi.mx/products/hibiki?variant=43349931589870

QK65
https://www.facebook.com/commerce/listing/6...hare_attachment

Tiger 80 Lite
https://kbdfans.com/collections/tiger-lite/...=40685184057483
There's an alu version if you like

Mode Sonnet
https://modedesigns.com/products/sonnet

Sorry the more I look, the more expensive it gets.
Q1 in Lazada 500ish barebones.
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post Oct 12 2022, 11:55 PM

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hi all ,any keyboard with low profile quiet switch?

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