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QUOTE(ktek @ Jul 1 2025, 03:19 PM)
custom means how?
calculate back formula or just use generic parameter/ hide ori setup
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Yes, they will need to key in as new vehicle model, custom parameter.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 1 2025, 01:25 PM)
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any good this tyre model? A few recommend this model from FB group. Traction AA
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https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Kumho/Ecsta-Sport-PS72.htm

Consider as mid range max performance tire, dont expect too much
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final sanity check with you guys Nissan Fairlady 350Z , use for daily drive, sometimes spirited, goes outstation on weekends, no track. Tire size 225/45/18 & 245/45/18

Michelin PS5 or Giti Sport S2 ?
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QUOTE(1kokies @ Jul 1 2025, 11:39 PM)
final sanity check with you guys Nissan Fairlady 350Z , use for daily drive, sometimes spirited, goes outstation on weekends, no track. Tire size 225/45/18 & 245/45/18

Michelin PS5 or Giti Sport S2 ?
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If your not going to track and daily drive i will pick the lower cost tire.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 1 2025, 12:25 PM)
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any good this tyre model? A few recommend this model from FB group. Traction AA
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This is comfort tyre or what?. based on thread pattern is comfort tyre. quite reputable also kumho brand. u can try bro, then give feedback here. as different people, may have different user experience
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Hello, between Hankook Ventus Prime 4 & Michelin Primacy 5, which one more comfortable and more gooding?.

Size 225/50R17
Price Hankook Prime 4 is RM380
Price Michelin Primacy 5 is RM 550

Currently using Hankook Ventus Prime 3, All I can see, this tyre comfort level is very good. but, only one downside, the tyre is not that silent. everything else, handling, wet, dry, comfort level, braking, all I satisfied. Its like a perfect tyre for my diriving pattern.

Always in my mind want to change into prime 4 until primacy 5 come out. only downside I see about primacy 5 is design is so damn ugly. dont know u all agree or not about this. lol.
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QUOTE(DM52 @ Jul 2 2025, 09:13 PM)
Hello, between Hankook Ventus Prime 4 & Michelin Primacy 5, which one more comfortable and more gooding?.

Size 225/50R17
Price Hankook Prime 4 is RM380
Price Michelin Primacy 5 is RM 550

Currently using Hankook Ventus Prime 3, All I can see, this tyre comfort level is very good. but, only one downside, the tyre is not that silent. everything else, handling, wet, dry, comfort level, braking, all I satisfied. Its like a perfect tyre for my diriving pattern.

Always in my mind want to change into prime 4 until primacy 5 come out. only downside I see about primacy 5 is design is so damn ugly. dont know u all agree or not about this. lol.
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I have very opposite opinions on VP3. If you're okay with it, definitely you'll be okay with VP4.

I will choose Primacy 5 anyway as I'm happy with my current Primacy 4. Money well spent.

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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Jul 2 2025, 09:24 PM)
I have very opposite opinions on VP3. If you're okay with it, definitely you'll be okay with VP3.

I will choose Primacy 5 anyway as I'm happy with my current Primacy 4. Money well spent.
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What u notice switch from Ventus 3 into Primacy 4?. can tell me the difference.. Primacy 4 design is quite beautiful, but suddenly primacy 5 design is very different. michelin really want to differentiate the design maybe, dont want to look same like pilot sport 5. but design primacy 5, quite weird. If primacy 5 design as beautiful as pilot spot 5, I not hesitate to pull the trigger.

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One more things, I remember, I ask shop, the price of continental max contact 7, is almost same as primacy 5 for 225 50 17. but max contact 7 is not touring tyre right. but threads pattern show mc7 is like comfort tyre wo. or this mc7 compund is hard type?. I interested with mc7 threads too, but scared not comfortable as ventus 4 and primacy 5

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QUOTE(DM52 @ Jul 2 2025, 09:54 PM)
What u notice switch from Ventus 3 into Primacy 4?. can tell me the difference.. Primacy 4 design is quite beautiful, but suddenly primacy 5 design is very different. michelin really want to differentiate the design maybe, dont want to look same like pilot sport 5. but design primacy 5, quite weird. If primacy 5 design as beautiful as pilot spot 5, I not hesitate to pull the trigger.
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All around improvement.

Increased grip & handling during dry & wet.

Major aquaplaning resistance.

Lower noise.

To me, VP3 was such a lousy tire. Poor grip during dry & wet. I've dump the tire after less than a year & 10k ish km.

In my personal view, Primacy 5 is more aesthetically pleasing than Primacy 4.
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QUOTE(DM52 @ Jul 2 2025, 09:56 PM)
One more things, I remember, I ask shop, the price of continental max contact 7, is almost same as primacy 5 for 225 50 17. but max contact 7 is not touring tyre right. but threads pattern show mc7 is like comfort tyre wo. or this mc7 compund is hard type?. I interested with mc7 threads too, but scared not comfortable as ventus 4 and primacy 5
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MC7 is marketed as an entry level UHP tire. Tire compound should be on the softer side

VP4 & Primacy 5 are categorised as premium touring tires.

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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Jul 3 2025, 12:06 AM)
MC7 is marketed as an entry level UHP tire. Tire coumpound should be on the softer side

VP4 & Primacy 5 is categorised as a premium touring tire.
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Do u think MC7 will be harsh if compared to premium touring tyre?. I tot MC7 tire compound is a bit stiff due to uhp..but I do read user review this tyre sidewall a bit soft, so that made me include this tyre in consideration. before end of this month, will change either into vp4, primacy 5 or mc7
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QUOTE(DM52 @ Jul 3 2025, 06:11 AM)
Do u think MC7 will be harsh if compared to premium touring tyre?. I tot MC7 tire compound is a bit stiff due to uhp..but I do read user review this tyre sidewall a bit soft, so that made me include this tyre in consideration. before end of this month, will change either into vp4, primacy 5 or mc7
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Usually UHP tires would have softer tire compound for more grip. Their sidewalls are generally stiffer than touring tires.

My guess, MC7 will provide the best grip compared to VP4 & Primacy 5.

However, it could be noisier & wear out faster.

In terms of aquaplaning resistance, Primacy 5 would be the best.
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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Jul 3 2025, 09:03 AM)
Usually UHP tires would have softer tire compound for more grip. Their sidewalls are generally stiffer than touring tires.

My guess, MC7 will provide the best grip compared to VP4 & Primacy 5.

However, it could be noisier & wear out faster.

In terms of aquaplaning resistance, Primacy 5 would be the best.
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This, UHP gives better grip (its main priority), lower Treadware because it gives more grip hence use a softer compound. compared to ECO tyres, which give lesser priority for Grip, hence a harder compound. The mid-range is between.

To me, I'm already fed up with Continental tyres in general cz their weakness in Wet traction. Bought a car that comes with UC6, one of the worst tyres on wet in my experience, pros are it's quiet and ok for dry, but comes rain, its struggling. Read many user for MC6, similar feedback, better than UC6 obviously but rain, its struggle also, far off from its benchmark, the Michelin PS series.

Then the price. MC7, iinm losses to PS5 prices if pandai find at a good tyre shop. Especially the Oscar, iinm PS5 is similar or cheaper a bit vs MC7 from Continental tyre shop.

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QUOTE(DM52 @ Jul 2 2025, 09:08 PM)
This is comfort tyre or what?. based on thread pattern is comfort tyre. quite reputable also kumho brand. u can try bro, then give feedback here. as different people, may have different user experience
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by end this year, need to botak-ish my current tyres before change all 4.
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Trying out this giti sport s2 to replace ps4 which has clocked 51k km. Using 45 series instead of stock 40 series for slight comfort. So fast quiet, have not tried corner or wet braking


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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Jul 3 2025, 12:04 AM)
All around improvement.
Increased grip & handling during dry & wet.
Major aquaplaning resistance.
Lower noise.
To me, VP3 was such a lousy tire. Poor grip during dry & wet. I've dump the tire after less than a year & 10k ish km.

In my personal view, Primacy 5 is more aesthetically pleasing than Primacy 4.
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we same. abandon prime3 after 1 year.
before that, was using MC5. i felt they both are equal level only.
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QUOTE(GuyM @ Jul 3 2025, 10:07 PM)
Trying out this giti sport s2 to replace ps4 which has clocked 51k km. Using 45 series instead of stock 40 series for slight comfort. So fast quiet, have not tried corner or wet braking
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believe this is Civic FE rim, hence use 235/40/18 as stock, whereas the Accord G9 uses 235/45/18. Previous tyres come with Michelin PS4, later review this model
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Still nobody tried Gripmaxx?
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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Jul 3 2025, 12:04 AM)
All around improvement.

Increased grip & handling during dry & wet.

Major aquaplaning resistance.

Lower noise.

To me, VP3 was such a lousy tire. Poor grip during dry & wet. I've dump the tire after less than a year & 10k ish km.

In my personal view, Primacy 5 is more aesthetically pleasing than Primacy 4.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 3 2025, 09:36 AM)
This, UHP gives better grip (its main priority), lower Treadware because it gives more grip hence use a softer compound. compared to ECO tyres, which give lesser priority for Grip, hence a harder compound. The mid-range is between.

To me, I'm already fed up with Continental tyres in general cz their weakness in Wet traction. Bought a car that comes with UC6, one of the worst tyres on wet in my experience, pros are it's quiet and ok for dry, but comes rain, its struggling. Read many user for MC6, similar feedback, better than UC6 obviously but rain, its struggle also, far off from its benchmark, the Michelin PS series.

Then the price. MC7, iinm losses to PS5 prices if pandai find at a good tyre shop. Especially the Oscar, iinm PS5 is similar or cheaper a bit vs MC7 from Continental tyre shop.
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QUOTE(ktek @ Jul 3 2025, 10:31 PM)
we same. abandon prime3 after 1 year.
before that, was using MC5. i felt they both are equal level only.
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Actually, it all depends on our driving style. eco tyre or touring tyre definitely crap or trash if user push the tyre a bit. I drive my relative car which equipped with toyo cr1. the tyre exremely comfortable. no matter what road surface, even harsher tarmac, it will absorb road imperfect, perfectly. problem is u cannot feel the grip at all even u drive slow. and scary things is, if u push the tyre, u already feel ur car floating not planted to the road.

And I ask my relative about this, and he said, he is okay and from what I see, he definitely slowpoke driver. thats why I see he no complain. but I read review online, got few people skid already using this tyre. the tread pattern also dangerous. its so narrow.

So comfortable tyre is not for everyone. it will be so dangerous if people drive a bit fast. I also scared to use this eco tyre, as I love to have higher limit tyre eventhough I not drive fast.


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