QUOTE(light_up @ Jul 11 2022, 06:17 PM)
hi, i'm an ex tire compound r&d engineer in Giti, mind to share which tire company u r working with?
u guys can be expertz here Ask my anything about tires, I am a tire engineer
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Jul 11 2022, 06:25 PM
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Jul 11 2022, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 11 2022, 03:24 PM) Why tyre shop ask me to rotate my tyres for a fee, when they're already rotating everyday when I drive? coe684 is cute most of d times. u can ignore them rotate is happenning whenever u drives ceo684 liked this post
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Jul 27 2022, 10:45 AM
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Jul 27 2022, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Jul 27 2022, 10:51 AM) turanza also normal comfort base tires, the real performance stuff is the Potenza series. yeameh. turanza wet & dry grip is much better than potenza s001 u know.If want sporty types tires for smaller size can try get Maxxis or special order Yokohama/Toyo tires from Japan. If not mistaken i got friend using Yokohama Advan series for 14" kelisa, heard the price not cheap almost 2xx/pcs. advan fleva must avoid. |
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Sep 9 2022, 09:14 AM
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Sep 9 2022, 09:22 AM
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blah x3. ok my method is pump correct pressure. find a 90' wide junction.
locking low gear pijak 50kph first go. adjust tyre pressure to learn grip character while increasing speed 60,70,80,90 i will aim for 70-80 enough. majority brand can achieve until here unless really weak one pun 50kph pass |
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Sep 9 2022, 09:24 AM
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Sep 9 2022, 09:30 AM
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Sep 9 2022, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(Vsmh @ Sep 7 2022, 08:44 PM) Hi TS, thank you for the response, however I think you might have gotten slightly confused here, my question on no.1 is actually not about grip or loss of comfort. More to tramlining and wobbly / squishy feel. Kindly see my original post (below for easier reference) did u pump air pressure according to 13" specs or 15" specs (pls refer any same gen vehicle come with 15")I have a few questions which I hope you can assist with. Background: Std Saga VVT using stock Silverstone M3 175/70/13 upgraded to PS3 195/50/15. Issues: experiencing tramlining, higher body roll (likely due to softer side walls?), car isnt as composed when breaking hard either. Only plus points seems to be grip and rather low noise, whereas with the Silverstones it was opposite (ie: higher noise, lower grip especially in the wet but the rest were fine). What gives? Some times i wonder if the tire shop knew of such things (and thus took the opportunity to sell) or they really think its a safety issue. Id agree on tolerances. Tire shop said no warranty one lah, Perodua said have but need to deal directly with manufacturer. Manufacturer (Silverstone) has kinda shut down (and they were pushing me back to Perodua), later found out they are now made and handled by Toyo tires, they were of the opinion that it was within spec and normal. All these created a perfect storm since i travel long distance and if 3/4 of my tires had a "bulge" as the tire shop called them, i was not willing to risk a single pop on the highway @ high speeds. Just a bit of backstory, tires were within warranty period, ran for about 20K km. Now i have 4 extra tires because of this episode. Eh, i think saga is also using torsion beam so technically there shouldnt be anything to adjust. Not sure if VVT is the same as older models tho. i suspect alignment as well becos shop only focus on straight line or they may pick a generic saga (different gen) from computer |
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QUOTE(Vsmh @ Sep 9 2022, 10:37 AM) Hi yes, 220kpa for cold tires, 250kpa for hot/warm, same across the board for 13-15" but their sticker is for the following: i recommend u go simen parking lot. stop the car without motion. pusing steering to left & right end.175/60/R13 185/60R14 185/55R15 Mine is 195/50/15, wonder if i need to increase? I find that some shops dont really know how to do alignment, driving will feel unengaging, steering not stiff enough and they will say ntg to do with alignment, but those that know they can sort it out. So its a bit of a hard time to get a shop that can do it properly.... Do let me know if you have any suggestions. got squeek noise? increase pressure 1 step (5kpa or 1psi). or another way round, u pump high 300kpa, go parking lot test. slowly reduce until squeek noise appear. read the pressure and save forever. thats how i find best surface grip for low speed turns |
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if modified spring, absorber, lowered, not same alignment specs liao
need to catch back slowly |
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Sep 10 2022, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(zeng @ Sep 10 2022, 11:22 PM) Thanks for the heads up. saga this type. wira correct no problemsYou're right. A quick search shows 2008 and up Sagas are rear torsion beam design. I owned 3 Sagas from 1985 to 1990, IIRC they were all rear multi links but not definite about it. Any info on rear suspension designs of Sagas from 1991- 2007? Early Wira's are definitely rear multi link design. ![]() zeng liked this post
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QUOTE(e-lite @ Sep 10 2022, 11:31 PM) out of topic a bit but for discussion. runflats oso double priceshow michelin / bf goodrich manage to sell so expensive tyres? is it because they use premium grade compound/manufacturing process? is it because they invest back into r&d? i have used michelins before and know what they have to offer. sometimes even more than twice the price of other top 5 tyre brands. |
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QUOTE(mdziaf @ Sep 11 2022, 10:09 AM) You do know that tire squealing isn't a sign that you are at the limit of grip but more indicative of improper input from the driver when taking a corner and/or bad car alignment and/or under inflated tires. so do u know answer is how much kphIf the tires are worn down, then yes the tire can start to squeal if you are asking similar lateral G performance from the tire like when it was new. But since you were asking for brand new tire performance this doesn't apply. So again you might think you are doing things safely since no one is around, but bad alignment/improper inflation can lead to sudden loss of control. If you really want to test your car do it on the track. |
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QUOTE(Theeban @ Sep 19 2022, 10:52 PM) Alignment is ok i guess,it is going straight,but a bit goyang left right above 110,just changed new kyb excel g and myvi gen 3 15 inch rims and pirelli cinturato p1,195/55/15,current pressure 220kpa,do i need to increase pressure? fren is using 235kpa on xm2 plus |
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straight line we toe in a bit. very steady line
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QUOTE(TheOnly @ Dec 4 2022, 11:26 PM) I’ve been running semi-slicks on public road, and i think I can’t ever go back to normal tyres like pilot sport 5, as that tyre just cannot keep up with my big brake kit, and activates abs so early, really rendering some perks of my bbk useless. less skill to learn. becos grip is adequate.Any unknown downsides on semi slick for public road? I only know 1.tire wear is extremely short (20k if don’t have too much aggressive weekend drives, or 1.5yr~ for tyre life). 2.shitty wet grip, well i take that as a good thing as i’ll slow the fk down when it’s raining, heck even before moving to semislick i already very prone to aquaplane with 275 wide tyre. 3.a need to always make sure/aware of tyre temp/ is warmed up before any huge cornering forces is applied. 4. Nvh? But hell I don’t care about nvh in a car, i got a proper house to properly appreciate a peaceful quiet time, a car is to drive not to live in. 5. Annoys the fuck outta your fellow friends behind you with the amount of sand/stones your sticky tyre will throw at them just gogogo |
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