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littlefire
post Dec 19 2024, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(ek @ Dec 15 2024, 11:19 PM)
Hi sifu, is there any quieter tyre as compare with stock Toyo Proxes R46 225/22/19 on Mazda CX8?  I plan to swap Toyo out for quieter and if possible those better grip under web condition.  A friend was recommending UC6 to me.
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Bridgestone Alenza 001
Hankook Ventus Prime 4
Nexen RU1 SUV
Yokohama BluEarth-XT AE61
Toyo Proxes CR1 SUV/ CF2 SUV
Michelin Primacy SUV
Goodyear Efficientgrip SUV

Most tires when new also quieter, tires after a while when harden or low treads will create more road noise.
Even some tires manufacturer purposely put noise maker like small bumps in treads to create more tire noise when hit the safety wear limit.



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post Dec 19 2024, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Dec 17 2024, 05:35 PM)
I did repeated the PS4 again and again. Happy with that especially raining season
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Yeah, still happy with my second set. Wear is even and performance is consistent in most conditions.

Only gripe is tiny chunks on sipes missing especially on the outer shoulder on front wheel, rear wheel with camber then not hitting that area much. Had same issue from XM2 days sweat.gif
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post Dec 19 2024, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(CAL V @ Dec 19 2024, 11:09 AM)
Yeah, still happy with my second set. Wear is even and performance is consistent in most conditions.

Only gripe is tiny chunks on sipes missing especially on the outer shoulder on front wheel, rear wheel with camber then not hitting that area much. Had same issue from XM2 days  sweat.gif
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I think the chunks issue are happened to those performance tyres when they using a grippier rubber, softer rubber. Instead of harder rubber like those in Eco Tyres model.
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post Dec 19 2024, 11:49 AM

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what constitute a silent tyre that are silent on the road both at high & low speed regardless of performance on any condition ?
also what is the main factor, and brands/model for example ?
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post Dec 19 2024, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(CAL V @ Dec 19 2024, 11:09 AM)
Yeah, still happy with my second set. Wear is even and performance is consistent in most conditions.

Only gripe is tiny chunks on sipes missing especially on the outer shoulder on front wheel, rear wheel with camber then not hitting that area much. Had same issue from XM2 days  sweat.gif
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Yup their trait marks, my 2 pairs front PS4 always chipped off
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Dec 19 2024, 09:15 AM)
Bridgestone Alenza 001
Hankook Ventus Prime 4
Nexen RU1 SUV
Yokohama BluEarth-XT AE61
Toyo Proxes CR1 SUV/ CF2 SUV
Michelin Primacy SUV
Goodyear Efficientgrip SUV

Most tires when new also quieter, tires after a while when harden or low treads will create more road noise.
Even some tires manufacturer purposely put noise maker like small bumps in treads to create more tire noise when hit the safety wear limit.
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Thanks for recommendation. Had tried google for days but can't find much info in comparison with Toyo. Thus trying to check in forum smile.gif
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post Dec 20 2024, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Dec 19 2024, 12:31 PM)
I think the chunks issue are happened to those performance tyres when they using a grippier rubber, softer rubber. Instead of harder rubber like those in Eco Tyres model.
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Yes, depends on the manufacturer rubber formula. Not only performance, most premium brands even for normal comfort range also like softer compound as it is more comfort, safer (shorter braking distance) and silent compare to harder compound. Weakness is faster wear & easy to chip off the treads.
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post Dec 21 2024, 03:34 PM

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Hi Bros, i m currently looking for replacement for my Hankook S1 Evo 3 which is around 40k km. I got to say that Hankook S1 Evo 3 is grippy both dry and wet. My car have good soundproofing and hence i didnt notice much noise.
I am a high mileage traveling between JB and KL. I drive between 160-200kmh and my sedan car is on the heavy side.
I wonder if there is any uhp tyres that is better than my current hankook s1 evo 3?
Size of my tyre is 245/45/R19
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post Dec 21 2024, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(Edwinlkj @ Dec 21 2024, 03:34 PM)
Hi Bros, i m currently looking for replacement for my Hankook S1 Evo 3 which is around 40k km. I got to say that Hankook S1 Evo 3 is grippy both dry and wet. My car have good soundproofing  and hence i didnt notice much noise.
I am a high mileage traveling between JB and KL. I drive between 160-200kmh and my sedan car is on the heavy side.
I wonder if there is any uhp tyres that is better than my current hankook s1 evo 3?
Size of my tyre is 245/45/R19
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U need go for Ps5 already,the cheaper version is already s1evo3 damn good already
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post Dec 21 2024, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(Edwinlkj @ Dec 21 2024, 03:34 PM)
Hi Bros, i m currently looking for replacement for my Hankook S1 Evo 3 which is around 40k km. I got to say that Hankook S1 Evo 3 is grippy both dry and wet. My car have good soundproofing  and hence i didnt notice much noise.
I am a high mileage traveling between JB and KL. I drive between 160-200kmh and my sedan car is on the heavy side.
I wonder if there is any uhp tyres that is better than my current hankook s1 evo 3?
Size of my tyre is 245/45/R19
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Best is PS4 for me. Never try PS5 yet.
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post Dec 21 2024, 04:48 PM

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Thank you bros for advise. Is there any gd shop ard kepong area that carries hankook tyres?
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post Dec 26 2024, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Dec 21 2024, 04:36 PM)
U need go for Ps5 already,the cheaper version is already s1evo3 damn good already
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If you go do research, PS5 actually a downgrade in term of performance when compared to PS4. Just go compare the Traction rating on the tires itself you will know. PS4 - AA, PS5 - A (Only 1 A). The only thing PS5 good over PS4 is comfort and higher wear rating (last longer compare to PS4)
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post Dec 26 2024, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Edwinlkj @ Dec 21 2024, 04:34 PM)
Hi Bros, i m currently looking for replacement for my Hankook S1 Evo 3 which is around 40k km. I got to say that Hankook S1 Evo 3 is grippy both dry and wet. My car have good soundproofing  and hence i didnt notice much noise.
I am a high mileage traveling between JB and KL. I drive between 160-200kmh and my sedan car is on the heavy side.
I wonder if there is any uhp tyres that is better than my current hankook s1 evo 3?
Size of my tyre is 245/45/R19
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https://www.tyrereviews.com/Search/Size/245...9/Season/Summer

Michelin PS4
Goodyear Eagle F1 AS6
Continental SportContact 7 <- Recent EVO summer test beat Michelin and claim no1 spot (Refer link below)

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2024-EV...r-Tyre-Test.htm

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post Dec 26 2024, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Dec 26 2024, 11:09 AM)
If you go do research, PS5 actually a downgrade in term of performance when compared to PS4. Just go compare the Traction rating on the tires itself you will know. PS4 - AA, PS5 - A (Only 1 A). The only thing PS5 good over PS4 is comfort and higher wear rating (last longer compare to PS4)
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PS4 for me last 40k km max. That is with proper alignment/ rotation done every 10k km. But performance/grip on wet, it best for me. Always felt it can cope with wet heavy rain, hence repeated few times already. Once current tyre finished, will try Continental MC7 since many said good already, even though I had worst feedback for UC6 on wet (tyre given when bought the car)
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post Dec 26 2024, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Dec 26 2024, 11:28 AM)
PS4 for me last 40k km max. That is with proper alignment/ rotation done every 10k km. But performance/grip on wet, it best for me. Always felt it can cope with wet heavy rain, hence repeated few times already. Once current tyre finished, will try Continental MC7 since many said good already, even though I had worst feedback for UC6 on wet (tyre given when bought the car)
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40k max? My FE now clocked 43k km and tyres still looking good for another 10k km
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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Dec 26 2024, 02:22 PM)
40k max? My FE now clocked 43k km and tyres still looking good for another 10k km
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Maybe use old trunk road most of time. And the rear negative chamber will make the rear inner side finished first
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post Dec 30 2024, 07:35 PM

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Driving 2012 Innova. 205/65/R15.
Front Dunlop SP J6 and Back Viking.
Need tonreplace the front Dunlop 2 x.
Was offered XM2, Rm360 year 2023 Or Rm400 2024.
Was offerednwith tyre harzard by tyrenplus.
Price looks good, but thinking going somrthing sub RM300, any recomend? J6 can get sub Rm300.


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QUOTE(frozz@holic @ Dec 19 2024, 11:49 AM)
what constitute a silent tyre that are silent on the road both at high & low speed regardless of performance on any condition ?
also what is the main factor, and brands/model for example ?
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Tire manufacturers will only optimize their tires according to whatever regulations their tires are subjected to. Main ones are the EU Tire Labels (which has noise restrictions) which is regularly cited in other countries' label including those in south east asia.

So depending on the tire line, some manufacturers will set up label goals as their requirements. In Malaysia EU R117 regs are not yet implemented but last I heard is being considered and if implemented will be applied as one or the SIRIM tire requirements.
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Ativa tyres,

T005a vs uc6 vs assurance maxguard?
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post Jan 7 2025, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(n0thing @ Jan 7 2025, 01:16 AM)
Ativa tyres,

T005a vs uc6 vs assurance maxguard?
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Believe the Goodyear is the best. Cz always saw many letgo the UC6 at marketplace with relatively good condition, use for less than a year etc. And based on own experience using UC6, it's a quiet tyre, ok at dry but worst on wet, heavy rain

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