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emobiletechnology
post Sep 9 2011, 07:10 PM

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Beware this fella limmunjoeadam, Joined: Apr 2011, Mobile: 012-2289301

Ask me go to meet him at Sunway & bring few type to let him choose. His is late & wait him for half an hour. Take out from the package & test. Until the end he told me he want others vmad.gif

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post Sep 10 2011, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(emobiletechnology @ Sep 9 2011, 07:10 PM)
Beware this fella limmunjoeadam, Joined: Apr 2011, Mobile: 012-2289301

Ask me go to meet him at Sunway & bring few type to let him choose. His is late & wait him for half an hour. Take out from the package & test. Until the end he told me he want others  vmad.gif
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I don't think this is consider FFK. I'm not on buyer's side, FFK word tag on him would be much appropriate IF he did not show up. -2cents
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post Sep 10 2011, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(yezhacolic @ Sep 10 2011, 12:34 AM)
I don't think this is consider FFK. I'm not on buyer's side, FFK word tag on him would be much appropriate IF he did not show up. -2cents
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Then wat? Why ask people go to COD?! From KL to Sunway, then just because he just want to see the things !? doh.gif Our TIME & TRANSPORT FEE is NOT the $$$ ??!!!
He can let us know & tell us truely and he dun want to buy & he just want to see the things. Somemore ask people bring MiPow 2200, Yoobao Power Bank, etc. vmad.gif
Think about it, if u r from KL & i ask go to my place in SUNWAY & bring all the items that u have. I m late HALF an HOUR, then i just open your packages & i not going to buy from u. Would u angry?

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post Sep 10 2011, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(emobiletechnology @ Sep 10 2011, 12:14 PM)
Then wat? Why ask people go to COD?! From KL to Sunway, then just because he just want to see the things !?  doh.gif Our TIME & TRANSPORT FEE is NOT the $$$ ??!!!
He can let us know & tell us truely and he dun want to buy & he just want to see the things. Somemore ask people bring MiPow 2200, Yoobao Power Bank, etc.  vmad.gif
Think about it, if u r from KL & i ask go to my place in SUNWAY & bring all the items that u have. I m late HALF an HOUR, then i just open your packages & i not going to buy from u. Would u angry?
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Angry yes, but its more to ethics and attitude. Calm down man.
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post Sep 10 2011, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(emobiletechnology @ Sep 10 2011, 12:14 PM)
Then wat? Why ask people go to COD?! From KL to Sunway, then just because he just want to see the things !?  doh.gif Our TIME & TRANSPORT FEE is NOT the $$$ ??!!!
He can let us know & tell us truely and he dun want to buy & he just want to see the things. Somemore ask people bring MiPow 2200, Yoobao Power Bank, etc.  vmad.gif
Think about it, if u r from KL & i ask go to my place in SUNWAY & bring all the items that u have. I m late HALF an HOUR, then i just open your packages & i not going to buy from u. Would u angry?
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I strongly suggest that you confirm the deal like which item he want before you go. No point being too "obedient" to customer. Just make sure taht we behave professionally would do IMO. Not all buyers are professional or act logically either.

QUOTE(yezhacolic @ Sep 10 2011, 01:01 PM)
Angry yes, but its more to ethics and attitude. Calm down man.
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If i were in his shoes, i won't not be that calm as well. Time, fuel and money spent for "showcase".
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post Sep 10 2011, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(emobiletechnology @ Sep 10 2011, 12:14 PM)
Then wat? Why ask people go to COD?! From KL to Sunway, then just because he just want to see the things !?   doh.gif Our TIME & TRANSPORT FEE is NOT the $$$ ??!!!
He can let us know & tell us truely and he dun want to buy & he just want to see the things. Somemore ask people bring MiPow 2200, Yoobao Power Bank, etc.  vmad.gif
Think about it, if u r from KL & i ask go to my place in SUNWAY & bring all the items that u have. I m late HALF an HOUR, then i just open your packages & i not going to buy from u. Would u angry?
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Yes...you should have confirmed with him which item he wants and to avoid ffk cases or cases like what happen to you should have requested a little deposit next time in case something like this happen again. If buyer wants to just look you could have insisted he come at your place/shop instead of you going out to buyer's location if he not confirmed want to buy or not.

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post Sep 19 2011, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(rave963 @ Jul 22 2011, 12:14 AM)
Forumer you are complaining against: DarkEmotion88 aka RazerFanZ Genesis on facebook

Item being sold/bought: Razer Tarantula + Razer BattleLight and Razer Pro|Type

Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1926076&hl=

Date of transaction: 16th July 2011

Details of the complaint : Well, to begin the matter. He was very interested in buying the items. So, we fixed a COD. Unfortunately, most of the time he doesn't reply me. So I have been waiting for him for 3 weeks. Supposingly on the 3rd week COD, but there was the rally then cancel. I didn't mind waiting another week. But transportation is a problem for me

The arrangement was in Midvalley/Gardens. I showed him everything and tested it too to show the functionality. He asked me whether I was in a rush or not. I answered him ''No''. I think he decided to delay the time. So, he chat with me about 3-4 hours in between I asked him whether he wants to buy or not. He told me that he will confirm get Razer Pro|Type from me and the Razer Tarantula maybe in future. Then he just kept carrying on talking and changing the topic. He has diverted my question on buying the item or not more than 3 times. He told me his uncle stories like when he was in autralia, his plastic tooth, his journey on searching for Razer Collectible and etc.

Halfway, he sees his high school teacher. He just chat with her and leave me hangin about 15mins. After that, I already told him that my mom is waiting for me. So I pop the question again. Again he told me the samething, Confirm get from me Pro|Type and considering Tarantula and diverts the question and goes into his other topics again.

My mom waited for me at least 20 mins as he keeps diverting my questions. Finally, I told him I seriously needed to go. Then he willingly stops and say he has to go to the bathroom 1st. After that, I told him since he confirm getting Pro|Type, why not buy 1 1st then the other I reserve for him. He told me the time is not right and show me his empty wallet. This was very dissapointing, its alright because we were standing next to an ATM machine. I told him if the time is not right and just pay me deposit of RM100 to reserve both for him. He told me that he doesn't want to pay me the deposit, saying : '' The time is not right because I have promised another person already. If I want to get, I get all at one shot, I dont want to pay little bit here and there'' (more or less like this) . He also got me confused with another person that he arranged with. Even at that moment, he stills divert the question and tells me his stories again.

He also told me he will get it but not in that day but can tell me he can buy in the evening ...=_='' or else Sunday morning. No reply was given to me. Waited for him also no reply. I sms him also no reply, leave comment on his wall, he just deleted it and block me on facebook.

So, Tell me, is this ethical or not?? I waited and reserved for him for 3 weeks and on the 4th week finally COD, shows me his empty wallet and when we were standing next to an ATM machine , also telling me he has overspend last month. My depostit wasn't much too ask for also since will be considering as reserving 3 items worth Rm520 (gave him discount until RM480)... I wonder if he actually knows the meaning of COD (CASH ON DELIVERY). Just that wasted 3-4 hours with him and go home empty-handed and got screwing from my mom also.

Thank you all for listening to my dispute. Maybe you guys can pm me what to do??
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this guy has gotta be some sick person who does not understand what COD means,,,
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post Sep 19 2011, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(cutejams2004 @ Sep 19 2011, 02:58 PM)
this guy has gotta be some sick person who does not understand what COD means,,,
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Next time engage safetrade.com.my service, strictly no meet up. This kind of foolish thing supposed not to happen.
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post Sep 29 2011, 01:13 AM

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Case Closed

Buyer come to COD at my place...

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post Sep 29 2011, 11:53 AM

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Warning to all trading with X-LaW

this irresponsible trader posted a new ipad for sale

apparently he won it in a lucky draw from the company
X-LaW confirmed to COD with me on friday after he collected his ipad
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when X-LaW collected it on thursday, it was an ipad2 instead so he canceled the COD
i already turned down 3 other offers for ipad2 since he confirmed the COD
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i am ready to topup for the new ipad2
but X-LaW refused
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so beware of X-LaW, this irresponsible trader

hope others dont kena FFK from him like me
waste my time and cost me other opportunities
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post Oct 2 2011, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(domminic @ Sep 29 2011, 11:53 AM)
Warning to all trading with X-LaW

this irresponsible trader posted a new ipad for sale

apparently he won it in a lucky draw from the company
X-LaW confirmed to COD with me on friday after he collected his ipad
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when X-LaW collected it on thursday, it was an ipad2 instead so he canceled the COD
i already turned down 3 other offers for ipad2 since he confirmed the COD
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i am ready to topup for the new ipad2
but X-LaW refused
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so beware of X-LaW, this irresponsible trader

hope others dont kena FFK from him like me
waste my time and cost me other opportunities
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Be frank, if i were like you, i have report to this thread for more than 3 times.
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post Oct 4 2011, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(DAViS @ Aug 10 2011, 12:10 PM)
[size=7]Forum ID: mhsey75

Details:
After last message, we follow up phone calls, SMS, private message but he never reply us just ignoring us until today.
If there is ABC con trick happened within you and this guy or anybody related with Seiko SNZF11K1, we Davis has nothing to do with the deal.

Thank you.[/color]
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I didn't made the payment was due to your bad reputation bro. I worried u wil sell me the display unit tat u consider as brand new, I'm sure u know wat I referring to rite?
The way u sell stuffs is totally bullshit! There r plenty of good seller tat offer much cheaper price than, for sure they won't sell display or used unit to customer!!!!!!!
Who is the con man here? Haha

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post Oct 5 2011, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(mhsey75 @ Oct 4 2011, 11:48 PM)
I didn't made the payment was due to your bad reputation bro. I worried u wil sell me the display unit tat u consider as brand new, I'm sure u know wat I referring to rite?
The way u sell stuffs is totally bullshit! There r plenty of good seller tat offer much cheaper price than, for sure they won't sell display or used unit to customer!!!!!!!
Who is the con man here? Haha
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Your excuse is pretty lame. After you read that idiot thread after months for knowing what I have said? Do you have crystal ball can read future message or you have dupe account cari makan in lowyat.net?

So your buyer or victim not making payment so you find this lame reason to justify your FFK or failed con job? I wish I would have a voice record to show how convincing you are for that time.
Beware of this mhsey75, all his chat message and details already listed up for public scrutinised. Luckily I never deleted them.

If you think you are right, you just say you don't want it as simple as that. Don't hold my stock then telling me how genuine you are. I don't buy this BS.

Thank you for make me lost one potential customer because of your confirmation at the same time shape yourself be a real man when making deal.

Good luck.
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post Oct 6 2011, 03:31 PM

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Sales Topic: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2043508
Username: shaz61
Phone Number: 0126778872 / 0176559763 / 0163948384 / 0123224246 (Phone numbers collected from his sales threads)
Real Name: Shaznul / Shazwan (Different names collected from his sales thread)

I called my friend at 12.00PM to confirm if the seller did contact my friend or not, my friend said not a single SMS is received from the seller whereas I did gave my friend's number to the seller last night.
Promised to COD with my friend at Digital Mall at 3:05PM. Then at 3.05PM my friend called him 3 times but he didn't answer any of them.
Then my friend called me to notify the situation & I called the seller using a my other number than the one I use last night.

Seller didn't answer the 1st call, then I tried calling again for the 2nd time he answered at 3:11PM & seller told me he's just going out now.
He hang up the call before I could ask further questions.
After the call, I SMS the seller to ask if he's serious or not, seller didn't reply.

I don't care how busy you are, as a seller, you should notify your buyer if you can't make it or has some incident that prevents you from completing the deal.
Ko ingat ko sorang je ke yang meniaga. Aku pun meniaga jugak, tapi aku tak pernah FFK buyer & aku tak pernah buat perangai macam kau. Janji Melayu.

PS: This is not the first time he FFK his buyer. OWEN|NG has also been FFK'ed by this guy before.

This post has been edited by sHawTY: Oct 6 2011, 03:46 PM
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post Oct 6 2011, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Oct 6 2011, 03:31 PM)
Sales Topic: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2043508
Username: shaz61
Phone Number: 0126778872 / 0176559763 / 0163948384 / 0123224246 (Phone numbers collected from his sales threads)
Real Name: Shaznul / Shazwan (Different names collected from his sales thread)

I called my friend at 12.00PM to confirm if the seller did contact my friend or not, my friend said not a single SMS is received from the seller whereas I did gave my friend's number to the seller last night.
Promised to COD with my friend at Digital Mall at 3:05PM. Then at 3.05PM my friend called him 3 times but he didn't answer any of them.
Then my friend called me to notify the situation & I called the seller using a my other number than the one I use last night.

Seller didn't answer the 1st call, then I tried calling again for the 2nd time he answered at 3:11PM & seller told me he's just going out now.
He hang up the call before I could ask further questions.
After the call, I SMS the seller to ask if he's serious or not, seller didn't reply.

I don't care how busy you are, as a seller, you should notify your buyer if you can't make it or has some incident that prevents you from completing the deal.
Ko ingat ko sorang je ke yang meniaga. Aku pun meniaga jugak, tapi aku tak pernah FFK buyer & aku tak pernah buat perangai macam kau. Janji Melayu.

PS: This is not the first time he FFK his buyer. OWEN|NG has also been FFK'ed by this guy before.
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we are brothers.. i shazmyir am the owner of the account while my brother who tried selling to u the stuff is just 17 y old.. what do u expect? kalau aku tipu kau ur money lain citer.. ni psl tk dpt jumpa pun dh nak buat hal besar..aku bukan pun meniaga.. kalau tk dpt tuh move on la bro.. nak kecoh2 kt sini pehal? im simple.. eventhough i deal with u already.. kalau ade org offer higher aku jual kt dia.. its all about money when it comes down to bussiness
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QUOTE(shaz61 @ Oct 6 2011, 05:16 PM)
we are brothers.. i shazmyir am the owner of the account while my brother who tried selling to u the stuff is just 17 y old.. what do u expect? kalau aku tipu kau ur money lain citer.. ni psl tk dpt jumpa pun dh nak buat hal besar..aku bukan pun meniaga.. kalau tk dpt tuh move on la bro.. nak kecoh2 kt sini pehal? im simple.. eventhough i deal with u already.. kalau ade org offer higher aku jual kt dia.. its all about money when it comes down to bussiness
Kecoh? Ko ada nampak aku tinggi tinggi suara dan biadab macam kau ke?
Dah janji dgn aku, lepas tu dah janji pulak dengan kawan aku nak sampai pukul 3.05PM, asyik cakap dekat kawan aku, dah nak sampai, dah nak sampai. Last last tak sampai pun. Itu bukan menipu namanya?

Patah ke tangan ko nak SMS "Maaf bro, tapi tak jadi deal la".
Mahal sangat ke harga satu SMS? Jatuh ke maruah ko kalau nak minta maaf sebab cancel deal?

Orang macam ko ni la yang merosakkan nama orang Melayu. Menjatuhkan maruah orang Melayu. Menguatkan lagi tanggapan kaum lain yang orang Melayu ni suka menipu dan tabur janji janji kosong.

Sebelum ko nak marah marah orang macam aku yang buat salah, cermin la diri sendiri tu dulu.

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post Oct 6 2011, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Oct 6 2011, 05:29 PM)
Kecoh? Ko ada nampak aku tinggi tinggi suara dan biadab macam kau ke?
Dah janji dgn aku, lepas tu dah janji pulak dengan kawan aku nak sampai pukul 3.05PM, asyik cakap dekat kawan aku, dah nak sampai, dah nak sampai. Last last tak sampai pun. Itu bukan menipu namanya?

Patah ke tangan ko nak SMS "Maaf bro, tapi tak jadi deal la".
Mahal sangat ke harga satu SMS? Jatuh ke maruah ko kalau nak minta maaf sebab cancel deal?

Orang macam ko ni la yang merosakkan nama orang Melayu. Menjatuhkan maruah orang Melayu. Menguatkan lagi tanggapan kaum lain yang orang Melayu ni suka menipu dan tabur janji janji kosong.

Sebelum ko nak marah marah orang macam aku yang buat salah, cermin la diri sendiri tu dulu.
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okay so right now.. ade aku buat money transaction dgn kau tak? ade kau bg aku duit tak? kalau tkde... hmm.. tkyah buat kecoh lebih la bro.. i apologize for my brothers mistake.. tp jangan pandai2 dtg shoot2 aku.. kau nak post post dkt thread yg adik aku bukak jgn kacau thread aku.. so again.. im sorry..wish it didnt happened but it did. and its my fault..
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post Oct 6 2011, 05:42 PM

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Verbal agreement/contract does have validity in law

When does verbal agreement become valid?

1. when both party agreed verbally that they will sell to each other.

2. When both parties gave further consideration such as going to meet up does give sufficient consideration same goes to you that u said ur gonna reach but didnt meet up.

3. So if u agreed to sell to him/her then FFK but sell to others its right in business pov but legally its wrong as u already entered into contractual terms by giving further verbal agreement to sell then by actioning on the verbal agreement by stating your on ur way to meet buyer.

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post Oct 6 2011, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(shaz61 @ Oct 6 2011, 05:35 PM)
okay so right now.. ade aku buat money transaction dgn kau tak? ade kau bg aku duit tak? kalau tkde... hmm.. tkyah buat kecoh lebih la bro.. i apologize for my brothers mistake.. tp jangan pandai2 dtg shoot2 aku.. kau nak post post dkt thread yg adik aku bukak jgn kacau thread aku.. so again.. im sorry..wish it didnt happened but it did. and its my fault..
Ini bukan masalah duit. Ini masalah ko tak berpegang pada janji & ko menipu aku & kawan aku..

Ko tau tak member aku tu tengah kerja, tapi pasal nak COD dengan kau, dia dah habis masa 15 minit macam tu je. Tunggu tapi tak sampai sampai.
Aku ada cakap ke ko tipu duit aku? Sikit pun takde. Sekali lagi aku ulang, ini bukan pasal duit, tapi Ini pasal attitude.

Tak perlu PM aku, aku taknak nanti dah sampai SS15 Subang, tunggu punya tunggu, tak sampai sampai jugak. Lagi sekali masa aku terbazir macam tu je. Sekali orang dah hilang kepercayaan, sangat sangat susah nak dapatkan kepercayaan tu kembali.
Aku kacau thread? Ada aku post pasal ko FFK dekat topik "Bolt On Turbo" kau? Hormat la orang sikit bro. Jangan sesedap hati nak tuduh orang itu ini. Aku cuma post dekat topik Apple TV tu je.

Aku masih boleh bersabar, masih boleh bercakap dengan baik, takde guna ayat ayat mencarut & yang lucah.
Dan sila baca apa yang "mugenz" post dekat atas tentang verbal agreement.

Ubah attitude kau. Kalau kau nak maju, berhenti menabur janji kosong.
Ingat balik peribahasa Melayu yang lama: "Siakap Senohong Gelama Ikan Duri. Bercakap Bohong Lama-lama Mencuri"

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post Oct 9 2011, 08:37 PM

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Was FFk by this superb irresponsible buyer! His name is Hong (017-4213569)

Please be careful when you this number, 2 hour ago, we have set the time to meet up at sunway carnival mall (Seberang prai at penang, BM)

Before i went there around 8pm, i called/sms and double confirmed with him, still fine!

Then when i have reached, i called and he didnt pick up the call and finally sms and said deal cancelled!

Plz be careful of this number (017-4213569, and his name is HONG from BM, Penang!)



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