F-15E airframe has 16000 hour life. Sinkie use ~300 hours a year. That means 50+ year lifespan. If rmaf then maybe 80-100 year lifespan. Delivered from 2010, no need to talk about replacement for long long time.

Ironic because although it's double fa-50 cost, F-15SG useful life also double. So sinkie may have gotten substantial capability for roughly same depreciated cost per year. Typical sinkie planning.

I doubt RSAF will keep the F15Sgs or the post mid-life updated F15Sgs for so long as it will be outpaced by technology.

What is happening is that each of the royal Singapore armed forces 4 services i.e. army, RSAF, RSN and Digital/Cyber warfare and Intelligence has a list of projects in an order of priority.

RSN for example is focused on the Multi Role Combat Vessels which will likely be the most sophisticated and powerful surface combatant in South East Asia when introduced in 2025 to 2030, mid life update of the Formidable frigates and new light frigates/OPVs amidst integrating the new Invincible class submarines.

RSAF is likely focused on completing the upgrades of the F16C/Ds to F16Vs + phased purchase of F35A/Bs in batches + completion of deliveries of the Chinooks and Cougar helicopters + new MPAs (with the navy) before it focuses on other planned developments.

An example of a development which took years of focus and is largely completed is the Island Defence System which saw the I hawk missiles replaced by Aster 30 Blk 1 missile systems, Rapier missiles replaced by Spyder SR missile systems, new Bolide MK2 missiles, new CRAM systems (likely Iron Dome if you care to connect the sub systems and Sgs requirements) Iglas, etc. and integration of all these systems into a one-stop performing system.

Even with a 2023 USD $13.4 billion defence budget, Singapore could not do everything at once. SAFs projects take years to complete.

So Singapore will focus on the F15Sgs in due time. It is just not an area of focus for now.

This post has been edited by Mai189: Feb 25 2023, 02:58 PM

Rsaf f-15sg will likely remain effective against adversaries in the next few decades especially in strike role, will likely be upgraded.

Yes the F15Sgs will be around but not too long (20 to 30 years in total similar to the F16s). It has yet to undergo a mid-life upgrade - I suspect late 2020s. Only then RSAF can talk about a replacement.

Singapore has stated yesterday that the steady state will be F35s + F15Sgs in the early 2030s. The last F16V will be retired by mid 2030s.

This post has been edited by Mai189: Feb 25 2023, 03:06 PM

What one can expect over the next few years is as follows:

1) Additional F35s As or Bs orders in batches to be delivered by 2030 or latest 2031 to 2032. RSAF will need time to integrate the air frames and pilots so that the F16Vs can be smoothly retired in early 2030s.

2) Details on the MRCV heavy frigates/destroyers and completion (first ship ready in 2025)

3) Details on the upgraded Formidable frigates and completion (project to be completed before 2030; likely first ship by 2025)

4) New MPAs (likely by 2025-26 as Fokker 50s are getting old)

5) New OPVs/light frigates (first ship in 2026)

6) JMMS LHDs - I think this will be later in 2020s or early 2030s.

7) New Self propelled howitzers

8) New 3rd gen or 4 gen Broncos

9) I am going to throw a wildcard - replacements for Bionix IFVs and it will be domestically designed.

10) new attack helicopters - yes..the Apaches are due to be replaced.

11) Others - likely we will hear through 3rd party sources e.g. involvement in projects.e.g. Re: video of Sg Himars firing PRsM long range ballistic missiles .

This post has been edited by Mai189: Feb 25 2023, 04:04 PM

Zero ship is better than buying the wrong ship. Reboot, then bought another wrong ship & reboot & go on and on from the F2000 to the Kedah to the gagah.

Then they won't be buying 100 f35s then.

I really fail to see how this is in any way the case

Whether or not it stays around 70 to 80+ F35s in total or go up to 100 depends on Sgs own perception of her security needs. I've shared previously that RSAF F16 serial numbers reach the 90ish serials so they have that number of F16s. They have also retired the 40+ F5 S/Ts which to date remain officially unreplaced.

If Singapore thinks that the region is all pretty and full of honey, she won't be having a defence budget of USD $13.5 billion this year. In fact, Sgs defence budget is projected to increase to USD 15+ billion by 2027.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/singapore-i...-to-f-16-fleet/

https://sldinfo.com/2013/03/singapore-to-buy-f-35bs/

This post has been edited by Mai189: Feb 26 2023, 12:28 AM

Separately, Warzone had pointed at Singapore on an unique more powerful special F35 variant:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/43671...the-stealth-jet

Gowind LCS was built and commissioned on time for egyptian navy by Naval Group

If malaysia followed what egypt did

Malaysia would have 2 already in active duty


Boustead has not delivered a single LCS

So which one failed



This post has been edited by Raddus: Feb 26 2023, 12:37 AM

Indonesia is reported to ordered 12 TAI ANKA UCAV.

https://www.savunmasanayist.com/tusasa-3-ul...-siha-siparisi/

Indon procurement is also substantial. Everyone is arming in case a fight breaks out.

That's why ASEAN mechanism needs to be enhanced. The weapons should be pointed outside of ASEAN not at each other. More joint exercises helps.

A joint ASEAN blueprint on managing big powers in the region would also help.

gotta love the speculation, guesswork and crystal ball gazing going on around here by "experts"........

I doubt RSAF.....

Rsaf f-15sg will likely remain.....

I suspect late 2020s.....

What one can expect.....

likely by 2025-26........


But the best opinion so far is-

In theory and in forums, everything always possible.

You can't beat the logic!

This post has been edited by J2001k2: Feb 26 2023, 10:06 AM

Actually, Saf had shared definitive deadlines for some e.g. MRCV - first ship in 2025 or OPVs/light frigates - first ship in 2026. Not harm and you won't be far wrong from estimating the rest. Some like midlife update to the F15Sgs is a given ( no one expects them to replace the F15Sgs so soon).

Strategic planning needs to look years and decades ahead, and there is no certainty. those live in coconut shell, their world is the coconut, is complacent and comfort within the coconut shell.

Not so on Indo.

They have a unique (to put it mildly) system of letting the whole world know their intents or perhaps interest.

The follow-up is left wanting due to conflicting plans, insufficient funds, infighting amongst govt branches, etc.

The last time I brought this up, some folks find it a little hard to believe - many of Indos cited procurement are dead in the water - need resuscitation or in trouble. I'll name some - Arrowhead, F15ID, fixes for Korean submarine, fixes for PT PAL unstable ships (design issues), the Korean stealth fighter, etc.

Many of these programs will fade into nothing. Occasionally, you will hear some news about them on the latter being ongoing but never finished.

The heart of collective SEA defence to me is FPDA - linked as it is to mutual defence treaties or arrangements to greater powers tying them to SEA defence e.g. Anzac treaty with the US or Sg's Strategic Cooperation Agreement with the US.

Build upon that. Forget about pre biases as the old guard is almost gone. It is a new world.

This post has been edited by Mai189: Feb 26 2023, 12:15 PM

FPDA is limited. UK is a failed state. Like in ww2, any deployment will be too little, too late. New zealand doesn't have an air force. Malaysia has limited resources.

Real FPDA backbone has always been Sinkie & Oz but focus on peninsular Malaysia has been only oz after sinkie was banned from rakyat airspace.

Ignore capacity of anyone else in the region, is a waste. Vietnam forms bulkwark against land incursion. Indon, Filipinos has stakes in SCS. Thailand secures Malaysia's northern borders. Even Brunei can contribute.

Some leaders have foresight to purchase equipment that ease inter-operability. Indon, Thai F-16s can inter-operate. So will Indon Rafales in the future.

Even Sukhois are being integrated eg Pitch Black but a lot more can be done.

Other regions are banding together as a consequence of the shift from globalisation to a multi-polar world. Leaders within ASEAN already doing that but external forces are trying to exploit internal fissures. ASEAN unlikely to ever reach a state where everyone sings kumbaya together but there are still substantial things that can be done to improve security in this region.

The first is to start with mindsets where people stop seeing each other within ASEAN as a threat rather than a plus to regional security.

Don't worry....everything will fail