Hey..this thread is still here!

Edit: ok new one.

This post has been edited by Mai189: Jun 15 2022, 10:44 AM

Theres a bionix 2 with 30mm cannon 2:

Ill update more in 3rd ir 4th quarter of the year. Havent got the time 2 read up with all crazy stuffs on my plate at work.

Is this the same indian source which stated malaysia has already bought or decided to buy the Tejas? Malaysia, Singapore, vietnam etc. all going to buy Brahmos - from the report. Sounds like India or some indians are trying to push a narrative 2 influence sales.

The Russian entity which designed the missile and produces the engines (and produces other Russian missiles) is sanctioned by the US and Europe. This will most likely invite US Caatsa and European retaliations against buyers with respect to military purchases and maintanence of current military equipment.

Also you cannot simply slap russian missiles onto western systems. There is a reason why the pinoys only purchased land based systems and even so, the question remains as to what radar or sensors they can use to guide the missiles in the first place. And the pinoys got them b4 the russia-ukraine war.

This post has been edited by Mai189: Jul 25 2022, 03:04 AM

Has Indo actually made good on all the announcements on buying i cant recall x number if rafales, f15s, kf 21s, apaches, ospreys, fremms, armada of 274 ships by 2024 (with 110 new strike ships), dozens of home made submarines etc?

Or are these just talk?

I note that these r contingent almost entirely on foreign loans. Crowd fund it like the proposed new indo capital?

This post has been edited by Mai189: Jul 25 2022, 02:59 AM

Suit yourself!

There seems 2 be issues with the Chang Bogo submarines with both indo and koreas blaming each other.

These submarines should not even be put out to sea. Is this safety and maintanence standard endemic throughout the entire Indo military?

This post has been edited by Mai189: Jul 25 2022, 11:04 AM

Looks like P&W will win the F35 engine upgrade programme. P&W is competing with GE's adaptive engine.

https://insidedefense.com/insider/lawmakers...ment-f-35-fleet

Both engines will increase range (+10% to 20%), thrust and acceleration (+ 10% to 20% (in tests this is as high as +30%)) and thermal capacity (+50%).

When installed, the F35 will be more nimble, faster* and maneuverable than ever before and with the spare energy to incorporate direct energy weapons like long range lasers.

The P&W offer is the most logical choice as it evolutionary and readily available for all 3 models of F35s. GE's is more revolutionary - they made prototypes for F35 A/Cs for now and will build the prototype for Bs later.

* F35 current max speed in stealth mode is Mach 1.61 (performance envelope is closer to Mach 1.9 in tests to give allowance for sudden need for speed). Non stealthy 4.5 gen aircrafts speed drops significantly as they carry weapons which create even more drag (abt <Mach 1.2) - hence, the F35 in its current iteration is already faster than 4.5 gen aircrafts. The F35 can also supercruise w4 afterburners so it can maintain supersonic speed for a much longer time.

Is Indonesia still paying licensing fees to DaeSun Shipbuilding (South Korea) for the Makassar class and/or Makassar class derived ships ? It is Daesun which designed the ship.

Indonesia and Perus bought the license to build and sell them.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?o...=article&id=824

This post has been edited by Mai189: Jul 30 2022, 03:16 PM

Strange^ That is about USD $ 8.8 billion.

A lot more shoes to drop from this centipede vis a vis the whole gamut of agreements and claims on procurement (but minus clarity on funding).

A long time ago, Msia was into this drama too in wanting to buy X or Y equipment. Many did not materialize and when they do, the numbers are less or FFBNW.

Haha! You are missing the point.

What is impt is not a new hull - plenty of new and upcoming hulls in Asia.

What is impt are the equipment installed on her - sensors, weapon systems, datalinks, unmanned systems, etc.

https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia-pac...elicopter-deal/



Lets see who is willing to test this out!

Havent read the rest of SG news due to time constraint.

But this is so significant im not sure it was posted before:

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/parli...service-1959571

In short Sg has set up a fourth military service i.e. the Digital Digital and Intelligence Service ( i think this was previously known as SAF's Cyber Command) in addition to the conventional 3 i.e. Army, Navy and Air Force.

This will allow SG to channel additional resources and monies to cyber warfare and defence. More importantly, this will allow SG to assign tens of thousands of digitally literate and competent mandatory NS conscripts from SG's highly acclaimed polytechnics and universities to just focus on cyber warfare and defence aka cyber troopers in addition to regular cyber troops.

I dont know how much more I cannot underline the significance of Singapore's move. They are literally evolving an entire army of hackers and cyber defenders without necessarily having the need to pay billions more for its defence budget (2022 defence budget - $USD 12.1 billion).

In this age, cyber warfare can win and lose wars without a shot being fired. Cyber troopers can disrupt/blind and destroy both military and civilian facilities, spread disinformation, spread chaos and kill soldiers and civilians.





This post has been edited by Mai189: Aug 15 2022, 05:16 PM

Stuxnet - an example of just one cyber attack.

This post has been edited by Mai189: Aug 15 2022, 05:14 PM

https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/opini/2022080...empur-rafale-cs

‎Indonesia has signed a contract to procure 42 Rafale fighter jets made by Dassault Aviation on February 10, 2022. The moment occurred during the visit of the (then) Minister of the Armed Forces of France Florence Parly. The contract value was € 5.8 billion, while when referring to data from the Indonesian side, the acquisition of Rafale cost US$ 7 billion, including logistical support but not including weapons. Of the 42 Rafale fighter jets, six of them use the 2021 Funding Source Determination (PSP) allocation for the Ministry of Defense worth US$ 1.1 billion. Now the challenge is how to provide a Pure Companion Rupiah (RMP) for the program so that the contract can enter an effective status. ‎

‎Indonesia and France's defense cooperation is regulated in the Defense Cooperation Agreement (DCA) signed by Indonesian Minister of Defense Prabowo Subianto and Minister of the Armed Forces Florence Parly on June 28, 2021 in Paris. The acquisition of Rafale included part of the DCA, in addition to the purchase of Scorpene-class submarines. Efforts to realize the procurement of the Rafale are now a touchstone for Indonesia in maintaining diplomatic relations with France, especially after France was let down by Australia after the Kangaroo Country cancelled the contract for the acquisition of 12 diesel-electric submarines. Indonesia is now an important gamble for France as part of the country's efforts to strengthen its presence in the Indo-Pacific region as outlined in the France and Security in the Indo-Pacific document published in 2019.‎

‎Regarding efforts to realize the planned acquisition of 42 Rafale, the issue of availability of budget allocations is a critical matter that needs to be considered. As of June 2022, orders for 42 Rafales from Indonesia have not been recorded in Dassault ‎‎Aviation's order backlog‎‎. Indonesia still needs a Foreign Loan (PLN) of US$ 5.9 billion to bring home 36 Rafales and their logistical support, but they do not cover weapons. Of the total PLN allocation for the 2020-2024 period for the Ministry of Defense of US$ 20.7 billion set by the Ministry of National Development Planning/Bappenas, a pure loan of US$ 17.6 billion, the remaining US$ 3.1 billion must be provided by Indonesia because it is an RMP fund. ‎

‎The 2021 PSP, which consists of 35 activities, has absorbed US$ 7.7 billion from the overall allocation of US$ 20.7 billion, so that the remaining PLN allocation is US$ 13 billion. In the latest development, the Ministry of Defense has plans to divert 12 activities out of 35 activities with a value of US$ 1.3 billion. To meet the contractual obligations of purchasing 36 Rafales, it means that there are a number of procurement programs in the 2020-2024 Foreign Loan Plan List (DRPLN) that must be cancelled and the funds reallocated for the procurement of Rafale fighter jets. The question is, what activities will be cancelled and which batches belong to for the sake of the 36 Rafale? ‎

‎Another way for the purchase of 36 Rafale to run but not sacrifice other activities in DRPLN is the additional PLN allocation from the Ministry of National Development Planning/Bappenas and the Ministry of Finance. Whether there will be additional PLN allocations for the Ministry of Defense depends largely on the inter-ministerial lobbying, the state's financial condition and government spending priorities. The plan to purchase 36 Rafale depends on the Ministry of National Development Planning/Bappenas and the Ministry of Finance, will the 36 Rafale contract be included in the List of Foreign Loan Priority Plans (DRPPLN) which is followed by the issuance of PSP? Let's also not forget the external political aspect, where Indonesia's failure to fulfill its promise to acquire 36 Rafale will affect France's belief in Indonesia's reliability as a partner. ‎

‎On the other hand, the Ministry of Defense still has ambitions to purchase used fighters in a program known as the Interim MRCA. After failing to bring home Austria's Eurofighter Typhoon fighters, now the ministry once led by General M. Jusuf is about to buy mirage 2000-5 and or Mirage 2000-9 from countries in the Persian Gulf. The PLN value required for the two types of fighters made by Dassault Aviation is US$ 734.5 million, including logistical support. PLN of US$ 734.5 million does not include the construction of mirage fighter jet operational support facilities in Indonesia. ‎

‎In accordance with the prevailing customs in Indonesia, the construction of supporting facilities always uses Pure Rupiah from the State Budget. It is not yet known how many billions of Rupiah will be needed by the Air Force to build Mirage operational support facilities if the Ministry of Defense acquires used fighter jets from the Middle East. The reason behind the planned procurement of fighter jets that in 1986 competed with the F-16A/B to compete for the Indonesian market was the lack of number of Indonesian fighters so that it needed a ‎‎stop gap‎‎ in the short term. With the ‎‎stop gap‎‎, it is expected that the operational readiness of Indonesian fighter jets will be increased although the service life of the Mirage 2000-5 and Mirage 2000-9 is estimated to be only about 10 years to the next 15 years. ‎

‎Meanwhile, the Ministry of Defense still has another program related to fighter aircraft, namely ‎‎upgrading‎‎ the 23 F-16C/D Block 25 to the Viper equivalent. The program has been included in the 2020-2024 DRPLN and is just waiting for the issuance of DRPPLN and PSP. Although pln's proposed allocation for the procurement of Mirage fighters and the F-16C/D ‎‎upgrade‎‎ program are different, but with the PLN ceiling set by the Ministry of National Development Planning/Bappenas, the Ministry of Defense should prioritize the priority scale. In the economic dictum, resources are always limited so it needs priority in the use of available resources.‎

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Long story short - Indo signed on agreements with no funding. They are now having difficulty and are scrambling now trying to get foreign loans or cancel procurements.

Anyone posted this?

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-det...2022-green-book



Ive said b4 that more shoes r gonna fall off this centipede.

Indo 2023 defence budget falls to USD $8.8-$8.9 billion from high of USD $9.3 billion in 2022.

https://www.cnnindonesia.com/ekonomi/202208...-jokowi-di-2023

This post has been edited by Mai189: Aug 16 2022, 10:27 PM

Avibras which makes Astross is bankrupt:

https://www.latinfinance.com/daily-briefs/2...-for-bankruptcy

No more Astross or related developments...

Someone extracted the military act for Sgs NDP parade 2022.

No mobile display this year.

The narrative in Sg is there this may be a massive mixed buy of both A and B models - similar to Japan. Technically, RSAF has not replaced its 49-50 F5 S/Ts which the F35As could end up replacing.
The 40 to 60+ F15SGs replaced some or all of the Super Skyhawks. The F35Bs will replace the 70+ F16Vs as planned.

RSAF fighter replacements

Super Skyhawks -> replaced by 4.5+ gen F15SGs -> to be upgraded (midlife) and then replaced by a 6th gen fighter post 2040
F16s C/D/D+ -> upgraded (midlife) to F16V standard -> replaced by F35B
F5 S/T -> ? (likely F35As)

This post has been edited by Mai189: Sep 3 2022, 06:19 PM