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ayanami_tard
post Feb 26 2023, 12:31 PM

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I kinda half want to make a separate thread for discussion of Malaysia's armed forces only bcos of this thread is flooded with foreign shit edy.
KLthinker91
post Feb 26 2023, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(J2001k2 @ Feb 26 2023, 10:06 AM)
gotta love the speculation, guesswork and crystal ball gazing going on around here by "experts"........

I doubt RSAF.....

Rsaf f-15sg will likely remain.....

I suspect late 2020s.....

What one can expect.....

likely by 2025-26........


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yeah well
Mai189 is well-known for his... unique perspective

QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Feb 26 2023, 12:24 PM)
FPDA is limited. UK is a failed state. Like in ww2, any deployment will be too little, too late. New zealand doesn't have an air force. Malaysia has limited resources.

Real FPDA backbone has always been Sinkie & Oz but focus on peninsular Malaysia has been only oz after sinkie was banned from rakyat airspace.

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what fantasy land are you living in LMAO
for the past 12 months UK has been proving just what kind of power they can still wield without even getting into combat


J2001k2
post Feb 26 2023, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Feb 26 2023, 12:33 PM)
yeah well
Mai189 is well-known for his... unique perspective
what fantasy land are you living in LMAO
for the past 12 months UK has been proving just what kind of power they can still wield without even getting into combat
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Mai189
post Feb 26 2023, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Feb 26 2023, 12:33 PM)
yeah well
Mai189 is well-known for his... unique perspective
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I am a realist who likes connecting dots. Fun! You think the defence establishments tasked to do this in the countries concerned arent doing the same.


Mai189
post Feb 26 2023, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Feb 26 2023, 12:24 PM)
FPDA is limited. UK is a failed state. Like in ww2, any deployment will be too little, too late. New zealand doesn't have an air force. Malaysia has limited resources.

Real FPDA backbone has always been Sinkie & Oz but focus on peninsular Malaysia has been only oz after sinkie was banned from rakyat airspace.

Ignore capacity of anyone else in the region, is a waste. Vietnam forms bulkwark against land incursion. Indon, Filipinos has stakes in SCS. Thailand secures Malaysia's northern borders. Even Brunei can contribute.

Some leaders have foresight to purchase equipment that ease inter-operability. Indon, Thai F-16s can inter-operate. So will Indon Rafales in the future.

Even Sukhois are being integrated eg Pitch Black but a lot more can be done.

Other regions are banding together as a consequence of the shift from globalisation to a multi-polar world. Leaders within ASEAN already doing that but external forces are trying to exploit internal fissures. ASEAN unlikely to ever reach a state where everyone sings kumbaya together but there are still substantial things that can be done to improve security in this region.

The first is to start with mindsets where people stop seeing each other within ASEAN as a threat rather than a plus to regional security.
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When was there a ban for Sinkie into semenanjung? You mean OZ aircraft can simply fly into Msian airspace? IADS Butterworth had relied on RSAF when there arent enough air frames available to intercept intruders into Msian airspace. OZ cannot afford to station her combat jets in meaningful numbers anywhere without sacrificing the defence of the Australian mainland.

ASEAN cannot be together one...too many in ASEAN are China's surrogates. If Msia doesnt keep Sg and OZ + UK and NZ in her orbit on defence, ASEAN will be worse off.
Mai189
post Feb 26 2023, 01:25 PM

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Some of SAF timelines:

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A leaner crew aided by automation technologies will man the MRCVs. These innovations will translate into operational cost savings of up to 10 per cent, compared to similar-sized frigates. The first of these will be delivered around 2025, and full delivery is expected by 2030.


https://www.mindef.gov.sg/web/portal/pionee...019-Q2/apr19_cs

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The four MSRVs are refurbished vessels, but from 2026, the flotilla will operate new purpose-built vessels, the Ministry of Defence (MINDEF) said in a release on Tuesday. These vessels are expected to be larger and can operate at sea for longer periods than the Sentinel-class MSRVs.


https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/n...illa-rsn-432976

Not exactly privileged information.
KLthinker91
post Feb 26 2023, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Feb 26 2023, 01:08 PM)
I am a realist who likes connecting dots. Fun! You think the defence establishments tasked to do this in the countries concerned arent doing the same.
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sweaty, you're no Kor Risik
real intel officers know better than to simply take photo ops serial numbers at face value

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Mai189
post Feb 26 2023, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Feb 26 2023, 01:47 PM)
sweaty, you're no Kor Risik
real intel officers know better than to simply take photo ops serial numbers at face value

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Taking pot shots again. That is why your views are often twisted.

And... bringing up an old issue I see..

You like to take pot shots when it suits you often with zero context. How one country manages its serial numbers may not be the same as how another does it. Minimally, I put related sources for reference for you to make up your own minds.

Ive said it before. Your emotions are getting the better of you. So grow up!
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post Feb 26 2023, 02:12 PM

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What orbit? Since when does one see sinkie fighters at Butterworth? Only Oz.

Since when Malaysia welcome sinkie air force?

UK power in Ukraine? Lol. What power? All murican in Ukraine.

Show face once in a blue moon in this region, the locals go gaga.

Colonial mentality where the locals still hope masters can help defend them. Sorry folks , left long ago.

Hope neighbours will defend but go jelli green at neighbours?

Sinkie long ago realised no one may come to their aid. Bolehland still picky even with little to offer. Only forum complain about China on forum outcompete everyone else.
KLthinker91
post Feb 26 2023, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Feb 26 2023, 01:51 PM)
Taking pot shots again. That is why your views are often twisted.

And... bringing up an old issue I see..

You like to take pot shots when it suits you often with zero context. How one country manages its serial numbers may not be the same as how another does it. Minimally, I put related sources for reference for you to make up your own minds.

Ive said it before. Your emotions are getting the better of you. So grow up!
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It's not a pot shot, it's a valid criticism of your method. You want to believe that SAF is squeaky honest about this, that's your business. Regarding your other, better-referenced conclusions, I have not commented negatively

If I want to take "pot shots", I have better shit to throw at you, personally, but I don't see the point in explicitly calling out people

So, YOU back the fuck off, and let's keep this nice and détente.

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KLthinker91
post Feb 26 2023, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Feb 26 2023, 02:12 PM)

UK power in Ukraine? Lol. What power? All murican in Ukraine.

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post Feb 26 2023, 02:33 PM

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@klthinker, do explain to the forum the massive UK power shown in Ukraine..should be simple rather than make dumb snide remarks whilst avoiding the issue
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post Feb 26 2023, 02:47 PM

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post Feb 26 2023, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Feb 26 2023, 02:20 PM)
It's not a pot shot, it's a valid criticism of your method. You want to believe that SAF is squeaky honest about this, that's your business. Regarding your other, better-referenced conclusions, I have not commented negatively

If I want to take "pot shots", I have better shit to throw at you, personally, but I don't see the point in explicitly calling out people

So, YOU back the fuck off, and let's keep this nice and détente.
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Oh really! This was done and over it. And here you are resuscitating it again. You! And what is this? Threats? Grow up!

No one is asking you to pour your emotions all over the forum if you choose to disagree. It is your business to disagree or not. Or anyone for that matter. But if you choose to whine about it and take pot shots out of now where then get shit on your face - as Ive said it before.

Ive been very polite with you but I do not take back stabs too kindly. What detente? Grow up!


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post Feb 26 2023, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Feb 26 2023, 02:24 PM)
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Snarky!
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post Feb 26 2023, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Mai189 @ Feb 26 2023, 02:54 PM)
Oh really! This was done and over it. And here you are resuscitating it again. You! And what is this? Threats? Grow up!

No one is asking you to pour your emotions all over the forum if you choose to disagree. It is your business to disagree or not. Or anyone for that matter. But if you choose to whine about it and take pot shots out of now where then get shit on your face - as Ive said it before.

Ive been very polite with you but I do not take back stabs too kindly. What detente? Grow up!
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Ooo, somebody got triggered hard eh? Look back at the previous page and tell me who's being emotional here.

Anyway, I leave you be. As I said, I have no beef with you, if you want to make an issue out of it, itu hal kamu.

QUOTE(Mai189 @ Feb 26 2023, 02:57 PM)
Snarky!
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post Feb 26 2023, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Feb 26 2023, 02:59 PM)
Ooo, somebody got triggered hard eh? Look back at the previous page and tell me who's being emotional here.

Anyway, I leave you be. As I said, I have no beef with you, if you want to make an issue out of it, itu hal kamu.
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Something wrong with your eyes as always. Youre the rabble rouser.

Nothing much! Just telling the forum to give you a digital bloody nose if you start making threats online again.

Thank you. Yes. Snarky! Thats what I want to reinforce.

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post Feb 26 2023, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Feb 26 2023, 02:47 PM)
I don't explain shit to people who don't know how to tag
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post Feb 26 2023, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Feb 26 2023, 03:39 PM)
"Dunno means dunno" - KL"Thinker"91
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eh tiba tiba reti tag pulak
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takbodoh722
post Feb 26 2023, 03:50 PM

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Massive UK power. lol.

tidak faham? bodoh bermaksud bodoh.



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