of course

but it is a better probability for the submarine fleet survival rathar than having none.

it also allows the submarines to regularly operate at locations far from base,  like say from. kuala terengganu for example, or allowing our submarines to operate out of foreign naval base, like singapore or vietnam.

just need to buy few F-35s from the US then it can automatically become aircraft carrier like singapore's endurance heli support ship..

PLA J-35 fighter Jet.

China building 5 Type 052D destroyer(7500 tons) at 1 go.
if only LCS build by the China...

despite all these variables, the first hit itself mostly already damage the optics, sensors and whatnot on the tank's external and partially the internals. the crew and innards mostly intact but without external optics, sensors etc theyre as good as blindfolded. i was watching a simulation on tank shells onto even modern tanks, a simple basic AP round itself while have no chance of penetrating western tanks armor from front, the kinetic impact is strong enough to render crew concussed and damage to systems, crippling the tank.

imagine a situation like this. you and your tank crew are moving from post A to post B, suddenly a tank round/ATGM hits you. everything went dark, sensors kaput, optics cant see externally anymore and suddenly tank halts because the driver is incapacitated or tracks broken. what do you do? exit tank to be ambushed or stay inside and await the inevitable 2nd round that could potentially rip the internals? you get the gist

no doubt abt this, but my point is ATGM are outpacing the western tanks even more. ATGMs are designed to destroy tanks, obviously they have the advantage considering the tanks are much more limited by weight and sizing. no point building an indestructible tank to only be crippled by it being too heavy or immobile for use

submarines would be useful in any military operation so it's a no-brainer decision really
also, 4 of anything is really a minimum buy when it comes to ships; if you're going to run a kedai mamak 24 jam, obviously you need more than 2 staff right? takkan each staff on 12 hours?

however, there's a valid question in asking if conventional military capability is what we need right now. IMVHO our priorities should be EEZ patrol and anti-piracy, and we need coast guard-type boats for that, not subs

I don't think we can afford both

Been there done that. While it sounds great in some people mind, in reality . Purchasing stuff directly overseas with foreign currencies without NO socioeconomic contribution to the local community & industry is extremely unattractive.

It would just lead the gov to either buy less that what MAF required like the Caracas or not buy anything at all.

lol. looks like another sucker fall for ukraine propaganda.

suggestion. dont believe BOTH sides.

That is a Russian made Kilo submarine. Vietnam and Myanmar are the operators of Kilo submarines in SE Asia.