Still thinking can earn big salary in Malaysia, you may just dreaming? You wont get a salary beyond RM15k in Malaysia.

Why are they paying more to a single person when they can get 2 or 3 persons with the same salary.

A cleaner in SG or US could earn more than those professionals sitting in the office.

Of course there are.
Link.

I don't see any which their paid in MYR >15k

Or you're referring to the 0.0001% of those directors making millions? Or those people who steal rakyat money?

they are, you just need to look at the correct industry

i believe IT now is the new O&G after pandemic

15k MYR is just the upper range of senior engineer in IT field. For team leads, specialists, SMEs can get from 15k and beyond.

one thing good about IT is the one can put in lesser amount of effort for every buck they earn, some dumb people keep saying oh grab riders can earn rm8k also but they ignore the fact that how many risks and hours grab riders need to spent to earn that amount

Do enlighten me if you are the <1% who make more than RM15k salary a month.

Or maybe I should put >20k? (due to current high inflation caused by US)

I'm working in IT and personally know 6 persons (friends & acquaintances) in my circle that made 15k and above monthly salary.

Only one of them is director level (i believe he make more than 20k), 2 is manager / chapter lead and remaining are Specialist @ SME. Idk if they are part of 1% but i'm sure a whole lot of ppl out there earn more than that in Professional and corporate world. Business owner is totally out of discussion. Believe me 15k is really achievable

Quite common if you work in the larger PLCs and MNCs. Head of department or their deputy/assistant should be around there.

My common benchmark is your years of experience. If you have 15 years = RM15k salary.

Not every job can be replaced by quantity especially higher end/ skills based/ decision making / people management job.

For example:
1) You can't replace Lee Chong Wei with 3 players. Skills based.
2) You can't replace Elon musk experience with 3 assistants.
3) You can't just replace Gordon Ramsay with 3 sous chefs as other staffs may not buy-in

I can go on but I am curious what is your objective/ point of interest here?

My manager already 15k

This amount is actually pretty low in select industries

Even 1st year MBB fresh graduate associates already hit this pay scale

At a vendor location now and I can see about more than 20 of them earning more than RM15k a month.

I’m living your dream then

You probably need to check out - https://www.instagram.com/malaysianpaygap/

If you want to see even more data - https://datastudio.google.com/u/0/reporting...ge/p_y00cuqsxsc

I know sometimes it is difficult to believe what people might say in forums but here are some data collected.

If you filter the dashboard to more than RM15k, you can see 274 submissions.

Total submissions at this point in time is 4572.

This makes the population in that database to be 6% earning more than RM15k.

which gua u lived?

but i guess, poor stays with poor....

15k monthly easi find lah

in sales industry
property, insurance, it sales, too many....

there are...jobs > 15k.

just less...

u may be surprise and what I say...

there r loopholes in how the world order in jobs are working..

exploit it...

2 or 3 people same salary are just grunts, they do the raw transactional works. However they need direction.
Just the same with football players, they may be the world best players in the world like Ronaldo or Messi.
But in the end, they need a good football manager to tell them where to move.
Amazing isn't it ?
So that's why they have a dude who controls 5, 10, 15, 30, 50 people.

However, there are good managers and there are bad managers
I've seen managers just set up meeting and tell their staff how to do their job, without even knowing what idea he or she is saying.
But yeah that is reality of life.

there are...jobs > 15k.

just less...

u may be surprise and what I say...

there r loopholes in how the world order in jobs are working..

exploit it...

2 or 3 people same salary are just grunts, they do the raw transactional works. However they need direction.
Just the same with football players, they may be the world best players in the world like Ronaldo or Messi.
But in the end, they need a good football manager to tell them where to move.
Amazing isn't it ?
So that's why they have a dude who controls 5, 10, 15, 30, 50 people.

However, there are good managers and there are bad managers
I've seen managers just set up meeting and tell their staff how to do their job, without even knowing what idea he or she is saying.
But yeah that is reality of life.

adalah. Management Consultant from consulting industry can break RM15k to RM20k a month.

15K is pretty cheap actually. Considering that even an IT developer in Singapore can maybe get SGD4-5k.

I am not talking about senior ones.

Lots of HODs in Malaysia's banks earn 15k a month. Definitely not uncommon.

I am working as an IT engineer and i am getting >15k per month. personally i knows more than dozen of friends working in the same industry getting 20K per month. dont be salty if u cant get it, work harder. we all studies day and night and go for a few exams every year to keep ourself updated.

just to name a few position, Cisco Advanced Services team (average 15K) ..ive got a few friends here. Senior DevOps engieer, Enterprise/Solution Architect from MNC .. Cloud Solution Architect .. there are so many positions that can get over 15K per month. Open your eyes and look around bro ..

This post has been edited by hiroshi87: May 30 2022, 03:37 PM

Experienced consultants with how many years to hit this range?

Agree with your points.

There are plenty of non-IT jobs with monthly salary more than RM 15K. A supply chain planner with experience in bulk shipment / marine can get up to RM 18K. A plant maintenance manager can get up to RM 22K.

But, anyone wants to work as a sanitary worker and get 15K, then have to go to Singapore or US.

TS really katak dibawah tempurung.

I have 3 close friends earning >15k and not even in IT industry, director level, nor daddykasi cable.
1 of them from B40 background during school years.

Anyhow, there are plenty of civil engineers and architects are underpaid in Malaysia

So I guess is really dependent on industry and your luck

Branch managers easily 15k

Great sharing, but the question is how true and is anyone validate those data?? Congrats to those 6% of people who achieve >RM15k pay?

Many people just said who and who making this and that... but how sure are you they're just try to show off? Please delight me if you're one of the Elite.

Pretty sad huh? A junior guy in SG can earn 5k and make more or same than those Malaysia senior manager with >10 yrs experience.

You can download from headhunter salary survey as well:
https://www.hays.com.my/salary-guide

If you want further benchmark, can check robert Walters and Kelly. You can see rm15k is quite normal for many experienced skillful roles.

You do know the concept of foreign currency? If that's the case a Singaporean worker will always earn lesser than its UK and US counterpart? You do know the concept of purchasing power parity as well? SG is highly competitive as they have expats as well competing with their citizens there. You see plenty of SG citizens working at fields that mys will scoff at such as at food court centers, dockyard and hotel services. In MYS, most of these are outsourced to South Asians. Just go and see their national zoo workers.

I see no reason/ purpose to show off. Again I can't see what are you trying to achieve here. Are you:
1) Looking to get into the RM15k club but you not there yet and want to know how? Get promoted/ change company. Cannot find opportunity? Keep searching and network. Plenty of people fail before they get to where they want to go. Everyone wants the glamour of a CEO, not everybody willing to have a meeting at 11pm on a Saturday night though or sleep at production plant during crunch time.

2) You are not in the RM15k club and you are unclear why people are paid such high salary? I can recommend few books/ articles but in summary you create value, you will get paid. You can create value by work hard, smart, cheat, manipulate, hustle, ...etc.

3) You are not in the RM15k club and you are frustrated and unwilling to work to get there. Feel free to find articles to support your mental well being at bored panda whichever makes you feel better.

Our currency small, thats why covenrt to sgd or usd it looks small.
But if you earn 15k in usd or sgd ofc convert back to myr big lah

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This post has been edited by mazai5100: Jun 29 2023, 11:18 PM

https://loanstreet.com.my/learning-centre/m...ion-b40-m40-t20

actually Malaysia Gini coefficient is damn high, that's the truth also

if you earn more than 11k, then you are in the nationwide T20 classification, while in WPKL, you need to earn at least 20k if you are single to qualify for T20 in KL, meanwhile in poor states like Kelantan, not even 8k can enter into T20

at the end of the day its just a number game

with the current inflation, many SME will have another wave of salary adjustments, which further driving the inflation up

to sum the thread, 6% of the survey population making more than 15k kind of reflecting our economy objectively, its just a bell shaped curve

This post has been edited by dattebayo: May 31 2022, 10:48 PM

Clearly everyone just refer to their friend or manager or site/salary report who earn >RM15k

Thanks for the link, myself also can gfgi

thanks for the insight, sad but true, its just a bell curve

Sendiri cannot achieve 15k salary then blame there is no job that pays 15k ... Kek

Even if me show my salary slip that above RM15k also you won't believe if you choose not to believe

btw, I am not director level, not daddykasi nor IT/ Oil & Gas industry...you just need to be good, or be above what your peers and withstand the stress that come with it.

If you ask me worth it or not, I would say, short term yes, long term no. I am planning my exit plan, rather taking lower pay, lesser stress

TS: Earning 15k? Dream on
Replies: Shows proof of 15k

I can already see that pikachu gif here

Lool, i feel grab driver better than those IT staring at PC whole day and night till eye bengkak everyday and risking eye sight. used to work in security system. Those sales and IT specialist you can see their eye is so different from those normal people. Their eye so bengkak one of my superior salesman actually his eyelid have some flesh growing.

This post has been edited by kesvani: Jun 1 2022, 12:03 AM

Huh in what way different?

Dude.... that is household income la dey.... comprehension and reading skill ain't your strong point eh??

Based on EPF data...

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/epf-...drawal-facility

T20 nationwide for single person is literally just earning above RM4,900...

If apply the same percentage logic of household income....which is 55% more than the national income...WPKL T20 for single person should be >RM7,595

This post has been edited by holypredator: Jun 1 2022, 01:48 AM

if that's the case

then the barrier for T20 is even lower

besides that, assuming most ppl are still single, therefore household income = solo income, we can't possibly include the income for parents and siblings as well, right?

not all of them are like this

alot of factors to decide

most obvious being the environment and the bosses, eg European MNC defintiely not the same as local SME chinaman

I am curious about your intentions, what is it about the delighting that you are looking at? If you want to know more and want to be delighted, by all means, drop me a PM and I can help you out.

Unless you are saying EPF is lying... I trust that is the case....

Single is indeed according to EPF is only >RM4.9k to qualify for T20 nationwide..

Uhhh, open any annual report.

Woi, people earn big not stealing, dont tell people stealing just because your dirt poor

You are definitely living in your own world thinking that jobs above 15k don't exist in malaysia.

30 - 31 years old in Management consulting earning way above this salary.

4-5 years.. One I personally know only 1.5 years in this industry and he is 30 this year.. no joke above 15k.

15k is pretty common nowadays especially IT. Any senior full stack engineer or data scientist will get that. Engineering managers easily 20+K. If you’re not at this bracket, it must be your industry is not innovating or outdated skill set

In SG and US you only get that kind of salary IF YOU CONVERT TO MYR. But that is an unfair comparison since you eat, rent and spend in SG or US. You are barely getting by.

80% of my team makes more than 15k per month. If you calculate bonus, then all them make more than 15k per month. I am not in IT line but working for MNC

This post has been edited by bigquoc: Jun 6 2022, 08:06 AM

I saw one on incident manager.
Quite true, the salary is around RM15-20k for a manager level one.

i believe to hit a 15k salary, at least u have to be a senior manager or above in medium size(200 staff) or above, otherwise small company dun think can afford that since their annual revenue not enough to keep u

personally i'm a technical team lead and my earning is around 17k(gross before epf and income tax), and few of my college fren thats in the same field earn around the same, while few of them have higher income cause they started their own business

so i believe the theory of onli the top tier (5%) of worker (exclude bosses and self employed) can earn 15k and above, and it depends on field/industry too of course

brah not really. senior with professional role in my organization are all taking home > RM15k. lead is just by name. Also there's few company which is digging our staff/colleagues to their organization with a blardy hefty increase like 40-60% increase. All 20k range and it isn't even a managerial role. BHP, Standard Charted IT arm (can't recall the subsidiary name).

incident manager isn't really a manager role as per say. Their main duty is to handle all critical incident going on in your organization. A bridge between the end user and also the team/multiple team who are investigating / doing the recovery of the service.

correct, but just because ur surrounding is taking home > RM15k, doesnt means it happen in all the other industry, and also dont forget majority in msia

just because u stay in 20th floor, dun forget there's always 19th floor below u, what above is still minority compare to who's below, it's a pyramid shape

and both my brother in law and sister in law is manager in banking field, their base salary is still around 10k+-, what benefit them is the bonus and company benefit, so i believe not all industry is the same

again.. you underestimated the firms in SG. My cousin a newbie junior SE working in a mid size firm. His already being paid with SGD 5k. and that's junior.

The few big names are paying up to SGD 7k currently in SG and as far as i know these companies are currently bleeding paying employee numeration. The competition to hire tech staff in SG had became so competitive that you can easily find a tech related job for SGD > 10k.

On top of that another cousin sister is just doing recruitment for techies in SG.

Question is... is this sustainable? i think that's the big question in the upcoming years for them.

Grab the IT jobs while its hot, salary shot up in the last 2 years because lack of overseas supply and lack of local and MY IT talent.
If you are looking for IT job in SG can pm me and i see what is available in my company.

For now i'm not really looking out. but yeah with all these kind of pay package i'm hearing me myself has the urge to move.

Yes there is a mad rush for talents on the tech front in SG currently but that is only for those who are local or PR or EP permit holders already in Singapore. If you are outside of those, tough luck. Salaries will moderate once Singapore open the floodgates and thousands upon thousands of indian IT workers come flooding in

There are out there, but really depends on:

1. Industry
2. Experience
3. Position

For some industry, that would be reserved for top management level but for several niche industry it can be mid-level manager pay.

When you start to earn 15k, you will feel it is peanut and will look for jobs that are paying 18k - 20k.

20k gross rakes in about 14.5k in nett

that's about rm3.5k paid as PCB monthly

even for entry five figure salary, that's 4 figures PCB being deducted, which can be used on maybe a 100k car installments

which makes people wonder

is our gomen even deserve that kind of money from us??

Yes.. and gomen is taking away fuel subsidy for the very people who had paid 10s of thousands in taxes every year. Not including car tax, consumption tax and etc.

Paying taxes is the noble thing to do, whether they deserve it, at the current times, I don't think so as they keep on abusing it

Lol...any HOD in FMCG MNC would be above 20k let alone 15k. Dont even need to talk about the outliers in O&G or Consulting. Just normal FMCG like Unilever, Nestle, F&N. If you look at ciggie/alcohol/Telco MNC, its even higher

So the takeaway of this thread here is to pursue career in IT.

Any bank VP's are getting this amount or more with benefits added in and its quite common payscale.

Just to add that not all industry pay structure are similar:
1) Sales/ Deals/ Front-end jobs have lower basic salary than others but compensate with higher bonuses in good market ranging from 6 months on average to 1 year plus.
2) Contract Vs permanent structure. Higher level or C-Level normally operate under 2-3 year contract. Hence they will normally look at yearly remuneration (US) than monthly or weekly remuneration (UK).
3) Profit sharing or dividend based. If you work under startup/ entrepreneurship or project driven work, your basic may be even zero/ negligible and 100% performance driven. Same applies to certain property agents that are mainly commission based.
4) Consulting driven. Some firm's charge per hour while some when you win the case. How you get paid depends on how large and how high up you on the hierarchy.

In summary, salary comparison itself is not really meaningful without considering all the relevant factors.

If you are talking about fresh grad, then yes.
If experienced staff 15k is not uncommon.

This post has been edited by Jdite: Jun 9 2022, 09:21 AM

i also got a few friend working in non IT industrial earning more then 15k per month.

warehouse manager in japanesse company
Hr manager in cena company
shipping mamager in Japanese company
EHS manager in cena company

all job out there can hit 15k,not just IT field can hit 15k...
fyi if lower grade IT technician maybe just earn not more then 2.5k per month even thoo they already work for 3or5 years in the same company

my another friend earning more then 60k per month as a safety officer(green book holder) in MNC Company.

that's what they say about taxing the rich (T20).
But come to think of it, our income tax rates are kinda like in the lower-medium range compared to other countries, especially the European and American ones.

But we still lose out to SG in terms of income taxes. And it is no surprise that it makes SG so competitive for job seekers from around the world besides the currency rates.

Sme company also have employer paying a sales position 15k+. Not those high tech fancy start up or self proclaimed modernized new era of entrepreneur who like to criticize traditional business.

Just depending on how you want to look at it.

Sad to say, different industry different payscale

Just because you are not getting it, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

EHS pay was pretty good. The last thing you might want to avoid is to become electronics engineers or firmware engineers. Work till no life and low pay

Honestly yes.
Even if you don't get 15-20k.
Start off at any company in IT, jump every 2 years by the 4th year you will AT LEAST make 6k.

It will be a comfortable pay if you don't strive to be T10.
Much better than any engineering course honestly.
Took me only 7 years to break the 5 digit mark.
Don't think anyone in electronic or manufacturing or civil can chase this pace of growth. And I was just above average in my job

Hahaha T20 at RM4900 is just sad.

That doesn't really take into consideration if you hv to feed more mouths i.e. parents?

They do but its not easy to get those 15k+ jobs especially if cert isn't exactly the right one e.g. my case i do IT Product Management but I'm Marketing/Int'l business cert.
Even related field higher rank, the salary range indicated is lower than whatever I was pulling.

Still there's more to it. Portion of food is bigger for the same dollar amount at least for SG - no need magnifying glass to see where's the meat.
RM5 can eat what? Nasi tulang (2017).

S$5 can eat sliced fish noodles with "more fish than noods" (2022)

Effectively even I B25 in my role here (which MY thinks I'm T20 what a joke) - the tax bracket is super cheap.
Unlike MY I was already paying C-level taxes as a senior exec - that's really unfair.

And tbh.. good side of earn proper currency is the buying power. No need to sell kidneys.

The taxes are very expensive in MY for the sub-par services rendered by the govt.

That is true.. cannot run from the tax dept
I still don't regret moving overseas a.k.a. declaring RM0 taxes to LHDN

If you are the creme de la creme even during your fresh grad days, MBB consulting firms pays Ivy League tiers fresh grads >16k.

At the rate of chasing 5 digit salary, one better off starting on their own and put out that extra effort while in young age.
At the end of they day you will still work under people and always be disposable.

Easy to type your ideals out on the internet.

Had 1 friend opened up a vege farm.
Making income 350k a month.
Got another that opened a fish farm.
Bankrupt with 2.5mil in debt.

Obviously easy to say wow at a young age should pursue own dreams.
But 99% of the people telling their story is of who succeeded.
Definitely never hear the story of those who failed.

I don't see what's wrong with working a stable corporate life.
If you think a corporate job is unstable and easily disposable.
I'm very sure you surely have not ran a business before.

Im a part time civil works contractor part time working under class A contractor.
Yeah i never run any business before.

I agree, nothing wrong working a stable corporate life. Don't expect the whole population to be entrepreneur.

This post has been edited by feekle: Jun 26 2022, 05:31 PM

Perhaps TS may want to widen his circle of friends? I know of many folks who exceed that income level. It's just that for Asians, we do not normally boast or publicise our incomes. Because if we happen to meet a friends from SG, HK or Shanghai, they will laugh at our meagre RM15-20K salaries. So advisable to keep quiet about our incomes.

Fortinet Level 2 Support 9k++

Those who managed to get opportunities overseas probably deserve the price as well

i'm doing IT, RM25k here

Yes there are.

i once spoke to headhunter for AWS tech position, he said my asking salary about 15k too low hence didnt think im suitable!! really char lan dou...

rough age? sales or tech? MNC right..good for u

35-ish, sales in tech

Ada. Sapa cakap tak ada.

I think it is who you mingle with that shape your horizon and perspective

I used to think that earning 10k ish was big, until I know more and more people earning this at younger age

Pay disparity occurs between different industry, eg a chef in a restaurant hardly can achieve 10k but an exec in IT can easily fetch 10k

Also Salary range in IT do increase significantly post Covid, due to the drastic increase in demands over supply

It is a pity that it was the headhunter that reached out instead of the recruiter from the company. I know American companies have rules now that negates these types of biasness.

Lol TS sour grape. My company openly shares the position grade and salary range. 15k seems normal in my company.

I'm earning close to 10k as Finance Team Lead now. AM is until 13k, Manager is up to 17k. Head of Department is until 22k. More or less this. If you're asking how many years to manager, my manager only 37.

I wonder what industry TS working and salary how much. Why so sour.

Tbh your company pay range is abit on the lower end already

For finance. We're shared service. And true, quite low but ya nvm la. Can survive. So a bit weird TS say can't get to 15k.