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 Jobs exceed RM15k pay in doesn't exist in Msia, Makan gaji cannot go beyond RM15k

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post May 30 2022, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(carboost @ May 29 2022, 12:13 PM)
Still thinking can earn big salary in Malaysia, you may just dreaming? You wont get a salary beyond RM15k in Malaysia.

Why are they paying more to a single person when they can get 2 or 3 persons with the same salary.

A cleaner in SG or US could earn more than those professionals sitting in the office.
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there are...jobs > 15k.

just less...

u may be surprise and what I say...

there r loopholes in how the world order in jobs are working..

exploit it...

2 or 3 people same salary are just grunts, they do the raw transactional works. However they need direction.
Just the same with football players, they may be the world best players in the world like Ronaldo or Messi.
But in the end, they need a good football manager to tell them where to move.
Amazing isn't it ?
So that's why they have a dude who controls 5, 10, 15, 30, 50 people.

However, there are good managers and there are bad managers
I've seen managers just set up meeting and tell their staff how to do their job, without even knowing what idea he or she is saying.
But yeah that is reality of life.
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post May 30 2022, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(carboost @ May 29 2022, 12:13 PM)
Still thinking can earn big salary in Malaysia, you may just dreaming? You wont get a salary beyond RM15k in Malaysia.

Why are they paying more to a single person when they can get 2 or 3 persons with the same salary.

A cleaner in SG or US could earn more than those professionals sitting in the office.
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there are...jobs > 15k.

just less...

u may be surprise and what I say...

there r loopholes in how the world order in jobs are working..

exploit it...

2 or 3 people same salary are just grunts, they do the raw transactional works. However they need direction.
Just the same with football players, they may be the world best players in the world like Ronaldo or Messi.
But in the end, they need a good football manager to tell them where to move.
Amazing isn't it ?
So that's why they have a dude who controls 5, 10, 15, 30, 50 people.

However, there are good managers and there are bad managers
I've seen managers just set up meeting and tell their staff how to do their job, without even knowing what idea he or she is saying.
But yeah that is reality of life.
mezanny
post Sep 15 2022, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Sep 13 2022, 01:00 PM)
From a person from 1987
I can tell you  MNC easily get 15K....
senior banker also can get

20K is rare thou
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local co also can get 15k or above easily.

Just that nowadays job market a bit slow, i think now september fewer, must wait Jan-Mar period.
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post Sep 15 2022, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 15 2022, 08:45 AM)
No need regret. I advise people don't study IT actually. I was working in few IT MNC companies like Orxcle, HP and others, every few years sure got retrenchment. When the time I first join IT, hardware like networking and server are in high demand while apps is not popular (no smart phone that time). But now most hardware IT hard to get job or good salary because people moving to cloud, wifi, smart phone rather than laptop etc. Yes there are many people said should go for software or apps development, but do you know there are tens of thousand if not hundreds of thousand people are in software and apps development line. My time people who work for software 3 years experience can easily get RM 6k, but nowadays the pay out is RM 3-4k. If you ask for more the hiring company can choose other candidates since the market is flooded with IT guys. There are IT jobs posting around job portal in high salary, but there are thousands of people are applying for a post. And those who can get high salary mostly are project manager, process manager / IT architecture, not really the programmer who solely doing coding.
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is it true ? I heard in some companies, coders kena bully by no-idea not knowledgeable project IT manager ?

not only you have to content with the messy coding but also the messy instruction and politic from project manager ?
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post Sep 15 2022, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 15 2022, 09:45 AM)
Not some but in many companies coders are being bully by senior, business analyst and project manager. Coder is farmer doing the ground work while manager take credits for their business unit or thier clients.
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coder get paid well or not ?

I wonder if coder get all this stress but do they earn more than the project manager ?
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post Sep 15 2022, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Sep 15 2022, 05:01 PM)
Have to see What language la...
Senior Programmer dont really do coding thou...just instruct
Software architect is Senior post also...
But not Fresh Coder...
Fresh coder Salary can easily be found in many places, Not 15K thou...unless go Andriod/iOS code, freshie might touch 10K
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not surprise their job stress

every minute every hour counts.
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post Sep 15 2022, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Sep 15 2022, 05:32 PM)
You will surprise how simple coder can Relax their mind....
They are just a bunch of dude of the dude....
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relax ?

i have coder friend must work night shift.
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