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post Apr 9 2022, 07:13 PM, updated 4y ago

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Honours

Premiership (13): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013
Division One Champions (7): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
Division Two Champions (2): 1936, 1975

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (3): 1968, 1999, 2008
UEFA Europa League (1): 2017
European Cup-Winners' Cup (1): 1991
European Super Cup (1): 1991

FA Charity/Community Shield (21 (17 outright, 4 shared)): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2016 (* = joint holders)
FA Cup Winners (12): 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004, 2016
League Cup Winners (5): 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2017

Toyota Inter-Continental Cup Winners (1): 1999
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Managers

A. H. Albut [1892 - 1900]
James West [1900 - September 1903]
Ernest Magnall [10 October 1903 - 9 September 1912]
T. J. Wallworth [9 September 1912 - 20 October 1912]
John Bentley [28 October 1912 - 28 December 1914]
John Robson [28 December 1914 - 31 October 1921]
John Chapman [31 October 1921 - 8 October 1926]
Clarence Hildrith [8 October 1926 - 13 April 1927]
Herbert Bamlett [13 April 1927 - 9 November 1931]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1931 - 13 July 1932]
Scott Duncan [13 July 1932 - 7 November 1937]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1937 - 15 February 1945]
Matt Busby [1 October 1945 - 11 June 1969]
Jimmy Murphy [February 1958 - June 1958]
Wilf McGuinness [11 June 1969 - 29 December 1970]
Matt Busby [29 December 1970 - 8 June 1971]
Frank O'Farrell [8 June 1971 - 19 December 1972]
Tommy Docherty [22 December 1972 - 4 July 1977]
Dave Sexton [14 July 1977 - 29 April 1981]
Ron Atkinson [9 June 1981 - 6 November 1986]
Sir Alex Ferguson [6 November 1986 - 30 June 2013]
David Moyes [01 July 2013 - 22 April 2014]
Ryan Giggs *Caretaker* [22 April 2014 - 18 May 2014]
Louis van Gaal [July 2014 - 23 May 2016]
Jose Mourinho [27 May 2016 - 18 December 2018]
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer [19 December 2018* - 21 November 2021] *Note: Appointed officially on 28 March 2019
Michael Carrick *Caretaker* [21 November 2021 - 02 December 2021]
Ralf Rangnick *Interim* [03 December 2021 - ?]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manch..._and_statistics

Record Home Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Home Defeat: 1-7 v Newcastle United, 10/09/1927 [Division 1]

Record Away Win: 8-1 v Nottingham Forest, 06/02/1999
Record Away Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record League Win: 10-1 v Wolves, 15/10/1892 (Division 1)
Record League Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Premier League Win: 9-0 v Ipswich Town, 04/03/1995
Record Premier League Defeat: 0-5 v Newcastle United, 20/10/1996 | 0-5 v Chelsea, 03/10/1999 | 1–6 v Manchester City, 23 October 2011

Record FA Cup Win: 8-0 v Yeovil Town, 12/02/1949
Record FA Cup Defeat: 1-7 v Burnley, 13/02/1901 [1st Round]

Record European Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record European Defeat: 0-5 v Sporting, 18/03/1964 [Cup Winners' Cup QF]

Record Champions League Win: 7-1 v Roma, 10/04/2007 [UCL QF, 2nd leg]

Record Home Attendance (At Old Trafford): 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record League Appearances: 672 (555 Start, 117 Sub) Ryan Giggs 1990 - 06 May 2014 v Hull City [963 (802 Start, 161 Sub) overall]

Record League Goalscorer: 199 [in 606 league appearances] Sir Bobby Charlton 1956-1973

Record Overall Goalscorer: 253 [in 559 appearances] Wayne Rooney 2004-09 July 2017

Record Transfer Fee Received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid (July 2009)

Record Transfer Fee Paid: 89,000,000 pounds for Paul Pogba from Juventus (August 2016)


As the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 18 times in their history. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup 4 times, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

Manchester United Club Info

Old Trafford

Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM)
Hope Alien will sticky this info later.
Though written in 2006 so no Roy Keane yet.

Ex-United players that have moved on to become managers.

Written by Simon Stone (MARCH 22, 2006)

STEVE BRUCE (1987-1996): Took his first steps in management with Sheffield United in 1998, then swiftly moved on to Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace. Left Selhurst Park in acrimonious fashion after Birmingham targeted him as the replacement for Trevor Francis in 1991. Took Blues into the Premier League but after a heavy FA Cup defeat is struggling to keep his job.

MARTIN POWELL (1971-1983): Stylish and well-respected Scotland centre-half whose authoritative nature appeared to make him a natural for the management game. Lasted four months at Burnley.

SIR BOBBY CHARLTON (1956-1973): Arguably the finest English player of all time proved to be an unmitigated disaster as a manager. Claimed he was not given the resources to make a decent job of it at Preston but was never lured back into management following his departure after a single season.

STEVE COPPELL (1975-1983): After a knee injury cut his playing career short at just 28, Coppell turned his attention to management. Steered Crystal Palace into the FA Cup final and then third place in the old First Division - the Eagles' highest ever - the following season. It was the first of four stints in charge at Selhurst Park in a career which has seen him move to Manchester City (for only six games), Brentford and Brighton. Now at Reading and about to steer the Royals into the top flight for the first time.

PADDY CRERAND (1962-1971): A key figure in United's 1968 European Cup triumph, Crerand lasted five months at Northampton before getting the bullet and, like Charlton, never managed again.

MARK HUGHES (1983-86, 1988-95): Hughes was never tipped as a manager by Ferguson but has taken to the game with ease. Took Wales into the Euro 2004 play-offs. Took over at Blackburn shortly afterwards, steering Rovers away from danger in his first season. Currently in contention for a Champions League spot.

BRIAN KIDD (1967-1974): Another European Cup winner who proved to be a poor manager. Got itchy feet in 1998 after spending seven years as Sir Alex Ferguson's highly-rated assistant. Took command at Blackburn but dismissed six months later.

BRYAN ROBSON (1981-94): United's inspirational leader under Ron Atkinson and Ferguson. There are two schools of thought on his stint at Middlesbrough - he either spent lots and achieved little (relegation and two losing finals) or he laid the platform for the Teessiders to become an established Premiership outfit. Kept West Brom up in extraordinary fashion last year but back in trouble again this season.

GORDON STRACHAN (1984-89): Scotland international who won the FA Cup with United and the title of the pre-Premiership era with Leeds. Sacked after five years at when the Sky Blues lost top-flight status, then enjoyed success at Southampton - reaching the 2003 Cup final - before resigning to spend more time with his family. Now at Celtic, has recovered from a humiliating Champions League exit to Artmedia Bratislava, and, after winning his first trophy on Sunday in the CIS Insurance Cup, is set to clinch the Scottish Premier League.

NOBBY STILES (1960-71): Along with Charlton, one of only two Englishmen to have won the World Cup and European Cup, he replaced his former England and United team-mate at Preston, with limited success. After a brief stint in Vancouver, returned to England to take over as manager of West Brom. Sacked after five months, having gained just three wins.
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The diff between Matic and McTom playing dm position, he just know when and where to appear, too bad his age doesn’t allow him to play full match week in week out sad.gif
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Apr 9 2022, 07:51 PM)
The diff between Matic and McTom playing dm position, he just know when and where to appear, too bad his age doesn’t allow him to play full match week in week out sad.gif
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Apr 9 2022, 07:51 PM)
The diff between Matic and McTom playing dm position, he just know when and where to appear, too bad his age doesn’t allow him to play full match week in week out sad.gif
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Well said. Sad that matic can only last 60 max. After that he will be too slow.
But he is still faster than maguire even after 60

Look at how maguire slows thing up so much and misplace passes

Thanks kaptain, we are trailing again

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has to be our captain.. just had to be him.
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QUOTE(yvliew @ Apr 9 2022, 07:59 PM)
has to be our captain.. just had to be him.
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Matic lost the ball
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80mil worth of mistaken purchase
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Start bright, blund final third, bommm self destruct and went trailing

Keep repeating
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Apr 9 2022, 08:00 PM)
Matic lost the ball
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He was sandwich by opponents…


Bruno’s over the mars passes start appearing after we were a goal behind

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Bissaka + sancho really not producing anything

Mykolenko rules
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the team ball movement n passing are so terrible.....
really wonder what they doing in training.....
like totally no idea what to do with/without the ball.....
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Apr 9 2022, 08:02 PM)
He was sandwich by opponents…
Bruno’s over the mars passes start appearing after we were a goal behind
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ahahhaha yes
back to long ball mode
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Nowadays astro go cacat. Recorded, press a bit to skip introduction, end up auto jump to 41 min pulak.

See 0-1. Nothing i missed.
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See ddg reaction after goal. Lol
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back to Ole ball.. sell these players, why giving new contracts.. they are easily replaceable..
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As I said again and again, if Captain still captain, stop talking about rebuilding.
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 9 2022, 08:29 PM)
Saw this and I’m speechless. Really can not understand what is he thinking?
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this season is way gone
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3 creative midfielders on the pitch now. Bruno, pogba and mata. If still without a goal or shot on target, whole team has to be sold maybe. Might as well play the youth team.
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Captain's pass again. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(callmecool @ Apr 9 2022, 08:55 PM)
3 creative midfielders on the pitch now. Bruno, pogba and mata. If still without a goal or shot on target, whole team has to be sold maybe. Might as well play the youth team.
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Man Utd as if they always train alone, play every weekend for other team. It’s absolute shocking
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QUOTE(callmecool @ Apr 9 2022, 08:55 PM)
3 creative midfielders on the pitch now. Bruno, pogba and mata. If still without a goal or shot on target, whole team has to be sold maybe. Might as well play the youth team.
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Problem is the 3 creative midfielders are behind the ball with only the forwards ahead of them. No runners.
Defence sitting back for safety not contributing to attacking pressure.

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Mata is like coming on to teach these players how to play football...
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Kaptain waited someone to be infront of him to take a shot. So kind. I think he gonna be all smile and hugs at full time.
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Ole football replace with gengenpressing football...great "improvement" indeed..LOL
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Bruno lack calm. He cannot be our lead attacker..
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Bruno lack calm. He cannot be our lead attacker..
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from bad to worse
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Heavy metal football. Lol. Cakap aje. Lampard lose to everyone but beat us comfortably.

Top 4 chance already over with 1 month to go. This is a new low.
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nice.....
give a wake up call to the board.....
the current squad is just a joke no matter who is the manager.....
there are no "team" at all.....
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Apr 9 2022, 09:24 PM)
from bad to worse
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I don't know what the renewed contract is for.
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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Apr 9 2022, 09:21 PM)
Bruno lack calm. He cannot be our lead attacker..
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Elehhhhh..last time all fans desperate to see club sign him and sancho...they havent learned anything at all from the previous big name signings..lol
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Ole football replace with gengenpressing football...great "improvement" indeed..LOL
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that is not gegenpressing, RR already abandon his gegenpressing, we need to admit that to become great again, all players and coach need to be remove
go fck with DNA united, stop signing overated english players, stop using man utd ex players as a coach
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shameful performances
they should be sacked/released
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Ok la… lost 1-0, not 4-0
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Just play mata for the next few matches. At least he is guilding the youngster., Not like those mindless attackers

Maguire... Really is he having a very bad luck year?

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Most probably Ten Hag is seriously consider not to take the job now.
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I miss maguire weekly apology
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QUOTE(mihina69 @ Apr 9 2022, 09:26 PM)
Elehhhhh..last time all fans desperate to see club sign him and sancho...they havent learned anything at all from the previous big name signings..lol
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Bruno not a big name signing..

QUOTE(KennRicky @ Apr 9 2022, 09:27 PM)
Most probably Ten Hag is seriously consider not to take the job now.
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Do ok at United, u will be in the RM and Bayern radar.. why not?
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Should remain with carrick as interim
Oh well
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By just watching, I can feel very annoyed for Telles.. getting schooled and moaned by Bruno every time.. even when this "New Cantona" pass straight to opponents leg also can moan to him..

Imagine how the guys feel.. how the hell can he keep his cool? respect.. won 2 league titles back in Portugal against this loser, now this loser schooling him at United.. doh.gif
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Bruno is not effective anymore under RR tactics. I doubt he will under ETH. Ole build the team around Bruno and let him focus on attack only. In a team play, he is useless.

They really need to give ETH 100% if they want to change... Otherwise just get Poch.
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I skipped the match, anyone can answer whether the goal was maguire 's fault?
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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Apr 9 2022, 09:47 PM)
Bruno is not effective anymore under RR tactics. I doubt he will under ETH. Ole build the team around Bruno and let him focus on attack only. In a team play, he is useless.

They really need to give ETH 100% if they want to change... Otherwise just get Poch.
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The revised VAR rule resulting in lack of penalties doesnt help him look effective anymore..
Now his lack of positional discipline, bad decision making and 'spam the ball up n hope for the best' is more visible since he's not scoring anymore..


when the hell is he gonna cut this outside foot pass out? just because it went good against Young Boys, now he doing it every game with awful outcome..
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 9 2022, 10:08 PM)
I skipped the match, anyone can answer whether the goal was maguire 's fault?
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short answer: Maybe

Long answer : Yes
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I skipped the match, anyone can answer whether the goal was maguire 's fault?
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i hate maguire but i dont think that was maguire fault
bad luck follow him after greece case
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QUOTE(john_white @ Apr 9 2022, 09:26 PM)
that is not gegenpressing, RR already abandon his gegenpressing, we need to admit that to become great again, all players and coach need to be remove
go fck with DNA united, stop signing overated english players, stop using man utd ex players as a coach
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QUOTE(tontolou @ Apr 9 2022, 10:20 PM)
short answer: Maybe

Long answer : Yes
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Jus saw the replay of the goal, i would say yes
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The revised VAR rule resulting in lack of penalties doesnt help him look effective anymore..
Now his lack of positional discipline, bad decision making and 'spam the ball up n hope for the best' is more visible since he's not scoring anymore..


when the hell is he gonna cut this outside foot pass out? just because it went good against Young Boys, now he doing it every game with awful outcome..
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 9 2022, 10:39 PM)
Jus saw the replay of the goal, i would say yes
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Reason for my short answer maybe was, well he did try to make himself big, but the only thing big was his wide head, but the build up before was Matic's fault.

However why my long answer was a definitive yes because it could be 2-0 trying to be smart playing from behind in the 2nd half. Donkey of a player.

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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Apr 9 2022, 09:26 PM)
Just play mata for the next few matches. At least he is guilding the youngster., Not like those mindless attackers

Maguire... Really is he having a very bad luck year?
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Bruno as a player playing at AM, his passing rate becoming bad in each day, he also miss placed so many passes…. This is all happened when we are trailing. First season he was good cuz opponents haven’t know his style of play but last season, opponent just sent a DM to press him and he will became invincible thru out the match. This season almost the same and under RR he starting to lose temper whenever we play chasing game.

Remembered there was one game Bruno was out for Covid and the team play was so smooth.

Malas want to bash the team anyone…


Last 7 games, don’t drop out from top 10, at least europa or worst also UEFA 3rd tier cup also can already.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Apr 9 2022, 11:48 PM)
Bruno as a player playing at AM, his passing rate becoming bad in each day, he also miss placed so many passes…. This is all happened when we are trailing. First season he was good cuz opponents haven’t know his style of play but last season, opponent just sent a DM to press him and he will became invincible thru out the match. This season almost the same and under RR he starting to lose temper whenever we play chasing game.

Remembered there was one game Bruno was out for Covid and the team play was so smooth.

Malas want to bash the team anyone…
Last 7 games, don’t drop out from top 10, at least europa or worst also UEFA 3rd tier cup also can already.
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I don’t even want europa conference league play off spot. I really want to get rid majority of first team players next season with fresh start of new manager.
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Conte will get 4th. Match his reputation
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Conte will get 4th. Match his reputation
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Man Utd/Glazers delayed
OGS should have been sacked aft that 0-5 but they waited/gave chance
then conte have signed up with spurs
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Apr 10 2022, 09:29 AM)
Man Utd/Glazers delayed
OGS should have been sacked aft that 0-5 but they waited/gave chance
then conte have signed up with spurs
murtough/fletcher fault too
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Well I doubt board will hire conte also. Later openly blast them lol.

Hire interim doesn't improve the result nor the performance. Hope the next manager will come good.
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QUOTE(john_white @ Apr 9 2022, 09:26 PM)
that is not gegenpressing, RR already abandon his gegenpressing, we need to admit that to become great again, all players and coach need to be remove
go fck with DNA united, stop signing overated english players, stop using man utd ex players as a coach
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RR said he has to adjust to the players we have. lol. that's why same shit. I hope the next manager will be more ruthless. stick to the style he think can win the game and dont give face to these primadonas.

another thing is we have so many players in the squad, please drop anyone if he is not performing. now at least 9 players feel safe - guaranteed will start the next game no matter how shit he performs in the game before.

QUOTE(beck_ken @ Apr 9 2022, 11:48 PM)
Bruno as a player playing at AM, his passing rate becoming bad in each day, he also miss placed so many passes…. This is all happened when we are trailing. First season he was good cuz opponents haven’t know his style of play but last season, opponent just sent a DM to press him and he will became invincible thru out the match. This season almost the same and under RR he starting to lose temper whenever we play chasing game.

Remembered there was one game Bruno was out for Covid and the team play was so smooth.

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Is Man Utd a commercial club?? I starting to agree with LVG comment. The club keep on renewing underperforming players and offer crazy amount of salary to players who do not fit.

The club delay in sacking Ole because he is the perfect mgr for them... someone who listen to whatever board decide.

The club sacked JM immediately because he wanted the club to kick Pogba (and he is right), but the club never backed JM and kick JM. This just show how poor mgmt the club is, they never supported manager and only want to protect your profit.

Talking abt Man Utd "DNA", where is the DNA? When SAF wanted to oust Keane, the club supported. When SAF wanted to oust Jaap Stamp, the club supported, and the list goes on with Beckham, Ruud, etc... SAF has full backing from the club, he has been given authority and the players can see that. No players dare to challenge SAF.

But today, players realize the board will never supported the manager. Players have more power than manager... so not even Pep Guardiola can do better than any of the manager we hired because he will never have the authority over players.
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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Apr 11 2022, 08:21 AM)
Is Man Utd a commercial club?? I starting to agree with LVG comment. The club keep on renewing underperforming players and offer crazy amount of salary to players who do not fit.

The club delay in sacking Ole because he is the perfect mgr for them... someone who listen to whatever board decide.

The club sacked JM immediately because he wanted the club to kick Pogba (and he is right), but the club never backed JM and kick JM. This just show how poor mgmt the club is, they never supported manager and only want to protect your profit.

Talking abt Man Utd "DNA", where is the DNA? When SAF wanted to oust Keane, the club supported. When SAF wanted to oust Jaap Stamp, the club supported, and the list goes on with Beckham, Ruud, etc... SAF has full backing from the club, he has been given authority and the players can see that. No players dare to challenge SAF.

But today, players realize the board will never supported the manager. Players have more power than manager... so not even Pep Guardiola  can do better than any of the manager we hired because he will never have the authority over players.
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RB Leipzig trying to hijack Manchester United's move to hire Erik ten Hag
United remain strong favourites to bring in ten Hag and it would be a huge surprise if he were to turn down move to Old Trafford

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10 April 2022 • 8:14pm

RB Leipzig are attempting to hijack Manchester United’s move to hire Erik ten Hag as their next manager.

Even though it would be a huge surprise if ten Hag were to turn United down but sources insist that the German club have shown an interest and may try to take advantage in any delay in negotiations.

Ten Hag’s current club Ajax have also become irritated by the talk of their coach moving to Old Trafford and while they will not stand in his way they fear it may affect their chances of winning the Dutch title. They are just four points ahead of PSV Eindhoven.

Telegraph Sport understands that ten Hag presented his terms to United last week after being told that the club were keen for him to be their next permanent manager having beaten off competition from Mauricio Pochettino. The talks are said to be “advancing”.

Contrary to reports, however, the 52-year-old Dutchman is not demanding full control over transfers and has been irritated by the suggestions. Having spent all of his coaching career working under a sporting director it would be astonishing if ten Hag was now demanding that degree of control. Sources emphatically claim he is not.

However, ten Hag does want it made clear by United that he will have a significant saying in signings and departures – something they are happy to grant – and also, crucially, that he will be given time to rebuild the United squad which is set to miss out on Champions League football.

He may also want to know what role interim manager Ralf Rangnick will fulfil as part of his two-year contract to be a consultant – if that goes ahead – and to have greater clarity as to what the structure will be at United.

United certainly remain the strong favourites to bring in ten Hag and it is understood that there may be developments this week when it is hoped that a deal can be concluded. Although the compensation being demanded is extremely low, around £1.7million, Ajax are anxious for the negotiations, including the timing of any announcement, to be handled sensitively.

There will inevitably be suspicions at United that news of Leipzig’s interest is an attempt by ten Hag’s camp to gain more leverage in the talks but it would be extremely embarrassing for them if their first-choice was to move to an apparently lesser and less well-resourced club. In fact Leipzig, given how they operate, would grant him less control than United are willing to offer.

Although sources insist the interest is genuine it would also be surprising if Leipzig were to change their coach at the end of this season. Domenico Tedesco succeeded Jesse Marsch, who is now the Leeds United manager, when he left in December and has overseen an impressive turnaround at the Bundesliga club, who are up to fourth in the table – and into the Champions League places - after their poor start to the campaign.

Sources in Germany suggest that Leipzig’s interest in ten Hag was before Tedesco was appointed but this is disputed.

i can imagine that rangnick recommend ten hag to RB after man utd refuse his advice laugh.gif


"Contrary to reports, however, the 52-year-old Dutchman is not demanding full control over transfers and has been irritated by the suggestions. "
- media spin trying to make ten hag demand full control, just to support poch

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RB Leipzig trying to hijack Manchester United's move to hire Erik ten Hag
i can imagine that rangnick recommend ten hag to RB after man utd refuse his advice  laugh.gif
"Contrary to reports, however, the 52-year-old Dutchman is not demanding full control over transfers and has been irritated by the suggestions. "
- media spin trying to make ten hag demand full control, just to support poch
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Well, that's the pressure of managing Man Utd if he going to become the manager. Get used to it then.

And by the way, it has been 9 years since SAF retire. These 9 years, I wonder how many new generations fans Utd has lost over to Liverpool and City... The commercial impact will come back to haunt them in coming years.

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if only RR just come in and make the players happy again like ole time... no need change what formation strategy or wad... then he wouldnt get bash so much... kesian him also... lol...

wan this bunch of players to be pressing machine is impossible... other than first match... there are no successful pressing from then on... all press like headless chicken... this team can only play counter attack je la... how to press with a midfield that cant even pass properly... stupid players...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 11 2022, 11:32 AM)
if only RR just come in and make the players happy again like ole time... no need change what formation strategy or wad... then he wouldnt get bash so much... kesian him also... lol...

wan this bunch of players to be pressing machine is impossible... other than first match... there are no successful pressing from then on... all press like headless chicken... this team can only play counter attack je la... how to press with a midfield that cant even pass properly... stupid players...
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The thing is that even Ole's style was pressing high at first, then later onwards the players are no longer pressing. For me i only wanted RR for the club building aspect, and i really hope they involve him as much as possible for that (with reports claiming that it isnt the case). Clean slate with the new manager, sell whoever that doesnt fit the new philosophy of the club.
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The thing is that even Ole's style was pressing high at first, then later onwards the players are no longer pressing. For me i only wanted RR for the club building aspect, and i really hope they involve him as much as possible for that (with reports claiming that it isnt the case). Clean slate with the new manager, sell whoever that doesnt fit the new philosophy of the club.
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the problem is none of the players are actually listening to instructions... when shit comes down... they will revert to their old style... lol.... the problem is always our midfield lose control... u lose control of that, u basically lose more than half of the battle... which is always the case... ole time, players happy to come back in a losing game for him... for RR... u can see, even after we are losing, the urgency to score back is not there... which can see how much player reli 'trust' him... lol
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 11 2022, 12:17 PM)
the problem is none of the players are actually listening to instructions... when shit comes down... they will revert to their old style... lol.... the problem is always our midfield lose control... u lose control of that, u basically lose more than half of the battle... which is always the case... ole time, players happy to come back in a losing game for him... for RR... u can see, even after we are losing, the urgency to score back is not there... which can see how much player reli 'trust' him... lol
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This is why the board need to support manager 100%. If manager wants to axe a player, the board need to support him regardless how famous the player is. The board need to tell the players, the manager is in charge! Otherwise, no players will listen to manager no matter who he is. If the board do not support the manager, the players will just play casually to get the manager sack and think it is not their fault. If the board want someone who listen to them only, just hire back Ole, I am dam sure we will see Utd in Championship soon.
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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Apr 11 2022, 02:27 PM)
This is why the board need to support manager 100%. If manager wants to axe a player, the board need to support him regardless how famous the player is. The board need to tell the players, the manager is in charge! Otherwise, no players will listen to manager no matter who he is. If the board do not support the manager, the players will just play casually to get the manager sack and think it is not their fault. If the board want someone who listen to them only, just hire back Ole, I am dam sure we will see Utd in Championship soon.
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i feel under ole we wont be relegated, but will bcum long term mid table team... lol... as for the board will accept or not, hopefully our coming manager candidates can fight harder... we keep on keep all those prima donnas for their commercial value but no value in matches... full of high salary players throughout our first team... and none of them able to do shit... except maybe de gea...
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QUOTE(irenic @ Apr 10 2022, 11:41 AM)
RR said he has to adjust to the players we have. lol. that's why same shit. I hope the next manager will be more ruthless. stick to the style he think can win the game and dont give face to these primadonas.
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to do this, the next manager will need a board that will back the manager more than the players.. because currently it seems the board will happily back the players more than the manager..

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 11 2022, 02:38 PM)
i feel under ole we wont be relegated, but will bcum long term mid table team... lol... as for the board will accept or not, hopefully our coming manager candidates can fight harder... we keep on keep all those prima donnas for their commercial value but no value in matches... full of high salary players throughout our first team... and none of them able to do shit... except maybe de gea...
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not sure... he got 1/11 right already... if he get 2 more maguire player.. can see relegation for real biggrin.gif
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not sure... he got 1/11 right already... if he get 2 more maguire player.. can see relegation for real  biggrin.gif
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lol i wish to see, is it coming manager also will put maguire as the captain and all time first 11 player... maybe he reli did something in training that we cant see... lol
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 11 2022, 03:28 PM)
lol i wish to see, is it coming manager also will put maguire as the captain and all time first 11 player... maybe he reli did something in training that we cant see... lol
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means the board sets maguires as strating 11 base on his price tag. cant even play for everton. wait he did..

every game he plays he plays against the red shirt. still starts. only under rr he got removed sometimes but still manage to comeback.. amazing
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 11 2022, 04:09 PM)
means the board sets maguires as strating 11 base on his price tag. cant even play for everton. wait he did..

every game he plays he plays against the red shirt. still starts. only under rr he got removed sometimes but still manage to comeback.. amazing
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Maybe the rumor about the starting lineup clause is true in the team.
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Apr 11 2022, 04:28 PM)
Maybe the rumor about the starting lineup clause is true in the team.
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yeah... cant say he did nothing.. cause he is almost the cause of the leaks... every single game sure got new meme videos (not one only)... and yet he starts every game for ole and under RR he on and then off and now on again.. if im the other teammates i also leave.. did you watch him in training with other england teammates?
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AWB, Maguire, Shaw, Lingard & Pogba

Get rid of these players! I would like to add Rashford & Sancho to the list but they deserve another season under a new manager.

Basically all crap english players. Stop buying overrated english players!
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AWB, Maguire, Shaw, Lingard & Pogba

Get rid of these players! I would like to add Rashford & Sancho to the list but they deserve another season under a new manager.

Basically all crap english players. Stop buying overrated english players!
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 11 2022, 12:17 PM)
the problem is none of the players are actually listening to instructions... when shit comes down... they will revert to their old style... lol.... the problem is always our midfield lose control... u lose control of that, u basically lose more than half of the battle... which is always the case... ole time, players happy to come back in a losing game for him... for RR... u can see, even after we are losing, the urgency to score back is not there... which can see how much player reli 'trust' him... lol
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 11 2022, 12:17 PM)
the problem is none of the players are actually listening to instructions... when shit comes down... they will revert to their old style... lol.... the problem is always our midfield lose control... u lose control of that, u basically lose more than half of the battle... which is always the case... ole time, players happy to come back in a losing game for him... for RR... u can see, even after we are losing, the urgency to score back is not there... which can see how much player reli 'trust' him... lol
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QUOTE(imin @ Apr 11 2022, 02:43 PM)
to do this, the next manager will need a board that will back the manager more than the players..  because currently it seems the board will happily back the players more than the manager..
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That's true.

Rangnick tried the 4-2-2-2 gegenpress but the players couldn't or wouldn't adapt. There was again the lack of effort and when you don't do the basic running in a gegenpress, it falls apart. Klopp would probably go get new players.
Rangnick can't. Rangnick can't buy a CDM he wants because Board opted not to and can't sell a player he doesn't in Lingard which got overruled by the Board again.

Club knows Rangnick is a temp. Players know.
Club management got themselves into this situation.

Imagine if Spurs do finish fourth above Arsenal and United. It's basically a point for Conte over the Board which didn't hire him.

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QUOTE(john_white @ Apr 11 2022, 10:24 PM)
sancho yes, rashford no
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agree with you that he definitely can stay as he looks good and getting better these days. but rashford since lvg time already. considered he reach his maximum already. after so many years.
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Yeah, if anyone deserve a chance, it's sancho. First batch to go got to be Maguire, Pogba, McFred and Martial, though I can't see Maguire will leave anytime soon. Rashford should be loaned out if not selling.
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QUOTE(imin @ Apr 11 2022, 02:43 PM)
to do this, the next manager will need a board that will back the manager more than the players..  because currently it seems the board will happily back the players more than the manager..
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The latest decision of renewing Bruno's contract to 5 years without a manager is a prove that this fully back the manager thing aint gonna happen..

QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 12 2022, 12:00 PM)
not sure why the hate on sancho.. his first season and half of it under ole.

agree with you that he definitely can stay as he looks good and getting better these days. but rashford since lvg time already. considered he reach his maximum already. after so many years.
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Hero football complex.. United fans dont rate players that cant do solo runs and/or scoring goals easily like its FIFA98..
That is why some players that are constantly disrupting teamplay is preferred more than other players.. because of the output of that single player, not the entire team..
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Apr 12 2022, 02:54 PM)
Yeah, if anyone deserve a chance, it's sancho. First batch to go got to be Maguire, Pogba, McFred and Martial, though I can't see Maguire will leave anytime soon. Rashford should be loaned out if not selling.
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Players that most likely leaving:

1. Pogba
2. Cavani
3. Mata
4. Lingard
5. Matic

Players that should join them, but nope they wont:

1. Maguire
2. Rashford
3. Shaw
4. AWB
5. Bruno
6. McT
7. Fred

^ these players will get new contracts, one got em already..
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 12 2022, 08:42 AM)
That's true.

Rangnick tried the 4-2-2-2 gegenpress but the players couldn't or wouldn't adapt. There was again the lack of effort and when you don't do the basic running in a gegenpress, it falls apart. Klopp would probably go get new players.
Rangnick can't. Rangnick can't buy a CDM he wants because Board opted not to and can't sell a player he doesn't in Lingard which got overruled by the Board again.

Club knows Rangnick is a temp. Players know.
Club management got themselves into this situation.

Imagine if Spurs do finish fourth above Arsenal and United. It's basically a point for Conte over the Board which didn't hire him.
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but players knew ole was temporary as well.. why they willing to play better football under him during this temporary tenure... thats the question here... but they dont do the same for RR... lol
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There's a call for boycott on next match against Norwich at Old Trafford..
Only for first 17 minutes though.. should be the whole match, but still its good start..



hope it will continue to something like Milan fans did..

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 12 2022, 03:42 PM)
There's a call for boycott on next match against Norwich at Old Trafford..
Only for first 17 minutes though.. should be the whole match, but still its good start..



hope it will continue to something like Milan fans did..

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"Let's face it you won't miss much action anyway"

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 12 2022, 03:38 PM)
but players knew ole was temporary as well.. why they willing to play better football under him during this temporary tenure... thats the question here... but they dont do the same for RR... lol
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i actually have a few theory..

1. the other teams during that period were that bad and they didnt expect a team like mu's budget to play counter every single game. (can see after 1 season it doesnt work anymore)

2. we didnt have maguire, awb, bruno that time. the players thought you just need to step up to get to starting 11. these days u just need to be british. also one of the seasons that pogba shows up more than shying away

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 12 2022, 03:38 PM)
but players knew ole was temporary as well.. why they willing to play better football under him during this temporary tenure... thats the question here... but they dont do the same for RR... lol
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Ole is tactical clueless but cant deny he able to inspire ppl. Rr banyak tactic but cannot inspire. There is a reason rr won almost nothing before join us. Meanwhile all his students winning here and there because they have both skillets


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How to comment on game style, when meek things like corners has been miserable. 90% time, it won't even reach own players.

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 12 2022, 03:38 PM)
but players knew ole was temporary as well.. why they willing to play better football under him during this temporary tenure... thats the question here... but they dont do the same for RR... lol
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Because it was moving on from Mou's time as Mr Bad Guy which alienated some players. They were willing to go along with anyone. Plus there were no hardcore cliques yet. So Ole, who indulged his favourites was always Mr Good Guy.
Once Ole is gone, no more automatic selection and easy ride. Not surprised the players didn't like it. Free lunch is gone.

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QUOTE(ran_deep @ Apr 12 2022, 08:03 PM)
How to comment on game style, when meek things like corners has been miserable. 90% time, it won't even reach own players.

Team Manchester United
Total corners 117
Total shots from corner situations 37
xG from shots from corner situations 2.1
Goals from corner situations 0

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I think we scored one corner if I'm not mistaken.
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So confirm ucl semi finalist - real madrid, villarreal

Not yet confirm but already in good position - liverpool, city

Ok I smell a pool treble 😭 enduring another heartbreak season.

I also don’t know if ten hag is going to be successful or not after a lot of scam this past 10 years 😢
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how u show u are on CL level? by winning the Europa and stay in CL past round of 16..
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QUOTE(damnself @ Apr 13 2022, 06:12 AM)
So confirm ucl semi finalist - real madrid, villarreal

Not yet confirm but already in good position - liverpool, city

Ok I smell a pool treble 😭 enduring another heartbreak season.

I also don’t know if ten hag is going to be successful or not after a lot of scam this past 10 years 😢
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if they did it then they deserve it.. need a proper win than that overhyped lockdown league champ with 5 subs a match..
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 12 2022, 09:25 PM)
Because it was moving on from Mou's time as Mr Bad Guy which alienated some players. They were willing to go along with anyone. Plus there were no hardcore cliques yet. So Ole, who indulged his favourites was always Mr Good Guy.
Once Ole is gone, no more automatic selection and easy ride. Not surprised the players didn't like it. Free lunch is gone.
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lol still the same set of first 11 with ole in the end... same formation same first 11... same shit tongue.gif tongue.gif
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ok, near the finish line already.
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QUOTE(James831 @ Apr 13 2022, 10:56 AM)



ok, near the finish line already.
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good. if first thing he does is boot maguire and i will support him for 2 years regardless results.
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Guys, with the Ten Hag appointments, keep a close eye on the backroom appointments and the footballing structure. That will probably determine if things remain the same as the past 10 years.
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here we go?



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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 13 2022, 12:02 PM)
Guys, with the Ten Hag appointments, keep a close eye on the backroom appointments and the footballing structure. That will probably determine if things remain the same as the past 10 years.
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as of 2022

glazers
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ed woodward / richard arnold
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ole / rangnick


..post ten-hag

glazers
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richard arnold
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ten hag


same shit whistling.gif




WHAT IT SUPPOSED TO BE..

glazers / new rich arab owner
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rangnick
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ten hag



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same shit
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Manchester United outcast Andreas Pereira's proposed permanent move to Flamengo has reportedly collapsed.
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Manchester United have agreed a three-year deal for Erik ten Hag to become their next manager with the move now "99 per cent" completed.

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get rid Maguire!
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 13 2022, 12:12 PM)
same shit
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clear all the prima donnas out je... at least pogba the virus is sure getting out dy... next is maguire... the rest i leave it to ETH to decide...
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There was a time where lots of fans said Andreas Pereira is better than Lingard.

I just never can understand.

Yup, Lingard also can't play in United.
At least he shined in West Ham and lots of team wanna sign him after season end.

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Pogba has caused many managers sacked... why still offer him a contract? If Pogba is to offer a big pay contract and he signs, this club is hopeless. No one buying his shit anyway, his shirt is not worthy.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 13 2022, 12:39 PM)
clear all the prima donnas out je... at least pogba the virus is sure getting out dy... next is maguire... the rest i leave it to ETH to decide...
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rmb last time lindelof gets all the sticks despite playing well. but maguire macam power. play like shit still no kena from the media.. passport memang power. know any defender worse than him or not? or footballer?
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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Apr 13 2022, 03:24 PM)
Pogba has caused many managers sacked... why still offer him a contract? If Pogba is to offer a big pay contract and he signs, this club is hopeless. No one buying his shit anyway, his shirt is not worthy.
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not sure if that is the fact.. quite possible only JM, but that one also questionable..
did he request/demands it?.. no reports proving he that did.. who knows..

but one thing for sure is the board the one that decided to sack the managers.. not Pogba..

plus this news of new contract offers is a routine weekly Pogba news..
its still the same contract renewal offer that United put out during early Ole time.. there are no new revised contract offer..

he is going out dont worry about that.. what needed to be worry is that will there be a replacement signing? with a better player/s?

history proves that United dont do that, after selling CR7 for 80m they signed Tony Valencia for 16m and Michael Owen for free.. after selling Lukaku for 90m they loaned in Ighalo..
if this continues, then it really is hopeless..
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 13 2022, 11:34 AM)
good. if first thing he does is boot maguire and i will support him for 2 years regardless results.
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If he boot maguire i will give him nickname Big Balls Erik biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 13 2022, 04:01 PM)
If he boot maguire i will give him nickname Big Balls Erik biggrin.gif
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maguire the real king notworthy.gif
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Let's get this straight.

The Board opted not to sign any reinforcements especially CDM in Jan because they want their new manager to decide on the squad.
Then the Board is offering Pogba the biggest contract in the PL to lock him in the next few years before the new manager is appointed.

Elite Management.



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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 13 2022, 04:34 PM)
Let's get this straight.

The Board opted not to sign any reinforcements especially CDM in Jan because they want their new manager to decide on the squad.
Then the Board is offering Pogba the biggest contract in the PL to lock him in the next few years before the new manager is appointed.

Elite Management.
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I dont trust this news though
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QUOTE(James831 @ Apr 13 2022, 04:36 PM)
i predict they will announce it after match against Liv..
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Assume without any new signing, is this the best we can lineup next season under ETH?

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Another rebuilding
Hopefully this time will yeild success
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QUOTE(James831 @ Apr 13 2022, 04:36 PM)
Seems to be bullshit. Ajax are just 4 points ahead of PSV, with 5 games to go, and their FA cup final with PSV is this weekend too.
Any responsible manager will refrain to throw team in disarray with such announcement.
Unless he see this will motivate team to go extra mile since he's departing. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(ran_deep @ Apr 13 2022, 10:23 PM)
Seems to be bullshit. Ajax are just 4 points ahead of PSV, with 5 games to go, and their FA cup final with PSV is this weekend too.
Any responsible manager will refrain to throw team in disarray with such announcement.
Unless he see this will motivate team to go extra mile since he's departing.  rclxub.gif
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I believe their inner circle already know he is leaving. Its jus formality now .. once u go online , all the news concerning ETH is front page.

My guess is most likely announce after Psv game
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Atletico managed to frustrate City in 2 legs so i guess shouldn't have been so disappointed with United.
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 14 2022, 02:41 AM)
I believe their inner circle already know he is leaving. Its jus formality now .. once u go online , all the news concerning ETH is front page.

My guess is most likely announce after Psv game
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ETH leaving at the end of this season is already a known possibility in Ajax circles, you are correct.
This was even before Overmars, who is a huge ETH ally, left the club. His departure was all but confirmed after Overmars left.

Ajax has already have their replacement candidates ready.
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If ETH is not allowed to mess with the roots and internal organs of MUFC, we are doomed for another cycle. To the owners, another 1-3 years of failure is nothing since we already have 10 years of nothing....perhaps to all of us as well. But it is true that we are all falling out of relevance, and if I (a fan of 30 years) can't give a damn anymore, we may end up becoming Nottingham Forest. And it is NOT PROFITABLE TO BE Forest.

So I hope with all my heart, that they find the one with courage and skill and empower him to the right and hard thing. We have all learned, even as fans that we are wrong to simply criticize based on results...I admit. Right now, I may even take Moyesy back (anyone except yes man happy go lucky Ole) and really tear Pogback and co a new butthole for their laziness.

Personally, as long as Maguire plays you can count me out of watching or caring.
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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Apr 13 2022, 06:58 PM)
Assume without any new signing, is this the best we can lineup next season under ETH?
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without any new signing, any formation will become useless.

for me, just take out all english players for a start and give the armand to cristiano, and play with 2 no.10's behind him.
matic HAVE to play with fred because of his intensity.

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dalot lindelof varane teles
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*sancho is not english, he is german

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here we go!

3 yrs contract. will this be the best signing after bruno?

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..starts with FC Twente
become assistant manager to steve mclaren and won them their first title in their history
become manager of go ahead eagles and gave them promotion after 17yrs of waiting
become manager of Ajax and gave them titles after 4 yrs and rebuild the team after pandemic and still become champion

..become manager of Man Utd and got sacked with the help of ex-legends and media spins after trying to sell a bunch of prima donna idiots? what do u think?

with the current structure and how the club treat the star players, i dont think he can survive rclxub.gif
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is he even confirmed at this point?

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..starts with FC Twente
become assistant manager to steve mclaren and won them their first title in their history
become manager of go ahead eagles and gave them promotion after 17yrs of waiting
become manager of Ajax and gave them titles after 4 yrs and rebuild the team after pandemic and still become champion

..become manager of Man Utd and got sacked with the help of ex-legends and media spins after trying to sell a bunch of prima donna idiots? what do u think?

with the current structure and how the club treat the star players, i dont think he can survive  rclxub.gif
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Mata lingard pogba matic

Expect this 4 midfielder to be leaving , so need to sign 2-3 CM . Matic may stay one more season i think

Cb i dont expect anyone leaving though. Am expecting ronaldo n cavani to stay too. Play one more season.

The new manager may need 3 years of rebuilding, 3 main transfer windows.. so per window probably need clear 4-5 players.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Apr 14 2022, 03:13 PM)
is he even confirmed at this point?
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verbally yes.
paperwork for formality and announcement after ajax cup final this 18th
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verbally yes.
paperwork for formality and announcement after ajax cup final this 18th
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There is sufficient time for us to get carried away later. I am so done with Utd and its accompanying media circus.
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 14 2022, 06:53 PM)
Mata lingard pogba matic

Expect this 4 midfielder to be leaving , so need to sign 2-3 CM . Matic may stay one more season i think

Cb i dont expect anyone leaving though. Am expecting ronaldo n cavani to stay too. Play one more season.

The new manager may need 3 years of rebuilding, 3 main transfer windows.. so per window probably need clear 4-5 players.
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Cavani is defo not staying. I hope Ronaldo stays for another season.

Ideally sell Maguire, Bailly, Martial, AWB, Henderson, Perreira, Jones, Tuanzebe and Chong.

Cavani, Lingard, Pogba and Mata can all leave.

De Gea keep for another season till his contract expires, so we need to look for a young GK that is more in the mold of a modern GK (was hoping for Maarten Vandevoordt but Leipzig just signed him).

Ronaldo can leave when his contract expires, so we defo need to get 2 attackers if we are going to let Martial leave as well. Not sure how concrete the Nunez links are.

We need a new CB for sure, Josko Gvardiol or Jurien Timber or Schlotterbeck that we have been linked recently. Personally really like Josko.

We need new fullbacks if we want to be challenging for the top again, but we wont be able to sign so many players, so maybe just recall Ethan Laird to challenge Dalot for the RB slot.

We definitely need some reinforcements in midfield, VDB will be back from loan, maybe sign Neves, i doubt he is super expensive, but i am not sure what ETH would go for, as he has played with a holding CDM as well as a midfielder that can swap roles with the other midfielders. Doubt we will go for Rice, he is way too expensive. Personally wouldn't mind Phillips if he is on the cheaper side.

I am sure we can make up 100mil+ from sales alone, and with Cavani, Lingard, Pogba and Mata all leaving, their wages will also free up money to be spent.
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QUOTE(James831 @ Apr 15 2022, 12:51 AM)
sign both, why not.. this Darwin Nunez kid finishing looking almost the same as Haaland..
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For Ten Hag to be a success at United, however, there must be no doubt in the minds of those in the club hierarchy, and that is the case after a process of multiple stages that began in earnest in January. United are sure about their selection, the decision process having been led by football director John Murtough, assisted by technical director Darren Fletcher, and signed off by principal owner Joel Glazer and CEO Richard Arnold.

This is a modern, diligent coach; a man United are getting on an upwards trajectory after reaching an agreement in principle for him to join the club. That confidence must now translate to fully supporting Ten Hag in shaping the squad to suit his requirements.

He has shown adeptness at unearthing new qualities in established players — squeezing more from Dusan Tadic, repurposing Daley Blind, reinvigorating Sebastien Haller at Ajax — so perhaps there are those within the United squad who will find fresh inspiration. Donny van de Beek would be forgiven for counting down the minutes to their reunion.

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Van de Beek and Ten Hag together at Ajax in December 2019 (Photo: Laurens Lindhout/Soccrates/Getty Images)
But it is clear that work is required in the transfer market to give Ten Hag the type of player with which he has thrived in Amsterdam. Ten Hag likes a high-pressing possession game, with emphasis on wide players. There are different modes within his style — he moved from the false nine of Tadic to the outright centre-forward in Haller for instance — yet the overarching principles remain. Finding and signing players to fit Ten Hag’s vision, rather than those who happen to be available, should be the underlying principle at all times. The same applies to selling players not in Ten Hag’s plans.

The Dutchman is not expecting to have total control of club affairs. He is primarily a grass coach, savouring in the sessions at the training ground. He worked with a technical director at Ajax in Marc Overmars, before the former Arsenal winger resigned in February after sending inappropriate messages to female colleagues, and will fit into a structure at United where manager and recruitment team have equal power of veto. He and Murtough need to be on the same page, though, making decisions that reinforce the idea for the team.

United would argue the manager has always been backed, and the enormous amount of money spent on signings can be held up as proof in one aspect. But when and how that cash has flowed leaves questions over United’s strategy.

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer began with a fierce mindset on incomings and outgoings, making the firm decision to get rid of Alexis Sanchez and Romelu Lukaku in his first summer. United signed Harry Maguire, Aaron Wan-Bissaka and Daniel James, three players fitting the Solskjaer brief, but failed to add a striker to replace Sanchez or Lukaku. They then endured an excruciating start to 2019-20 on the creative front — only scoring more than one goal on a single occasion in their first 13 games — and only when Bruno Fernandes arrived in January 2020 did United gain momentum to reach the Champions League places.

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Fernandes’ arrival kick-started United’s 2019-20 campaign (Photo: Manchester United/Manchester United via Getty Images)
The episode seemed to make Solskjaer more cautious on sanctioning sales, and some close to the club believe he compromised to make sure he had enough options. Anthony Martial and Jesse Lingard were two players Solskjaer kept last summer to guard against being left short.

There are other examples where Solskjaer was left disappointed, including the pursuits of Erling Haaland and Jude Bellingham.

It was July 2020 when Solskjaer approached Nathan Ake after United had beaten Bournemouth to say: “We need a left-footed centre-back, so keep going.” Ake moved to Manchester City instead and United waited until the following summer to sign right-footed Raphael Varane.

Circumstances affect every transfer and even Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp do not get it all their own way. City did not sign a striker last summer and Liverpool are still wrangling over Mohamed Salah’s contract. But in crucial moments the Premier League’s two best managers are given elite service from their colleagues at Manchester City and Liverpool.

Take the example from January when Liverpool swooped for Luis Diaz after Tottenham Hotspur had set the price with Porto. Liverpool’s recruitment team quietly used connections with Diaz’s Colombian agent to establish what Tottenham had agreed to pay Porto and circumvent a direct bidding war. Tottenham, via the agent Jorge Mendes, had a signed document with Porto, thought to be for €45 million (£37.6 million) plus €15 million (£12.5 million) in add-ons. Liverpool used those figures as a benchmark and completed the deal instead.

Liverpool, Diaz
Diaz joined Liverpool from Porto in January (Photo: OLI SCARFF/AFP via Getty Images)
Daniel Levy was said to be so angered at Liverpool’s approach he told his counterparts at Anfield his thoughts. Sources say Liverpool owner John W. Henry only saw the Spurs chairman’s frustrations as the mark of a job well done by his employees and he passed on his congratulations to them. United supporters would doubtless admire that kind of Machiavellian streak at Old Trafford.

Tottenham, of course, got their own January injection by signing Rodrigo Bentancur and Dejan Kulusevski. At the same time United declined to move for any player in winter in a decision made at the start of the month, despite the prospect of missing out on the Champions League. Ralf Rangnick still allowed Martial’s departure on loan but has given the impression in press conferences he would have liked a replacement, given Edinson Cavani’s injury issues and Mason Greenwood’s arrest.

Ten Hag is set to oversee a tumultuous first summer in charge at United, with Paul Pogba, Lingard, Juan Mata and Cavani all out of contract. If none renew that would mean about £750,000 per week in wages spare. Martial and Dean Henderson are expected to look for moves, while the futures of Eric Bailly, Phil Jones and maybe even Nemanja Matic are unclear.

Big salaries mean offloading certain players is easier said than done, but if there are several exits — and even accepting there is fat to trim in the squad — then Ten Hag must be given the requisite number of signings too. Focus will inevitably fall on head of recruitment Steve Brown to present viable targets. Talks are expected over Benfica’s Darwin Nunez.

Agents have been told that United are looking for a striker, two central midfielders and a right-winger. Getting players to compete in all of those positions is unlikely, of course. In the last eight transfer windows, United have signed 12 players for the first team. For a champion club topping up a winning squad, that feels like a good ratio. For a club trying to get back to title contention, that feels piecemeal.

The tempo is ultimately set by Joel Glazer. Messages back and forth with United’s principal owner, who often works out of Washington DC, mean dynamism can be an alien concept.

Ten Hag’s chances of getting off to a fast start will be influenced by a pre-season tour that includes stops in Bangkok and Melbourne. It will be some welcome to United and, just as in the transfer market, a place where Ten Hag could do with strong support.
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Manchester United have appointed a team of master planners as they take their first concrete steps towards a redevelopment of Old Trafford.

The 74,140 seat stadium has been United’s home since 1910, but has not undergone significant restoration work since second-tiers were added to two stands in 2006.

Legends International and Populous, who also worked on the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, have been selected.

United appointed master planners for their Carrington training ground back in December 2021.

The Athletic understands that United aim to upgrade and modernise the fan experience at Old Trafford while preserving the historic stadium’s identity.

A United statement read: “Manchester United has appointed a team of leading consultants to begin work on creating a Masterplan for the redevelopment of Old Trafford.

“The team will be led by Legends International and Populous, both of which have a wealth of stadium development experience from across the globe.

“Work will begin immediately on developing options for Old Trafford and studying their feasibility, with the aim of significantly enhancing the fan experience.

“Fans will be at the heart of the process, starting with a meeting between the consultants and the Manchester United Fans’ Advisory Board later this month.

“A similar process is already underway in relation to the club’s training facilities, with KSS appointed to develop a masterplan for an expanded, state-of-the-art facility for the men’s, women’s and academy teams.”
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ten hag is clearly fans favorite. now suddenly british media spin trying hard to create a story that ten hag snub ronaldo lulz.. their agenda to push for poch is at another level
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Apr 15 2022, 06:33 AM)
ten hag is clearly fans favorite. now suddenly british media spin trying hard to create a story that ten hag snub ronaldo lulz.. their agenda to push for poch is at another level
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The story that United board was finding reasons to not hire Conte..
Then made the decision after CR7 says no is more alarming..

If its true, means the board decision can be influenced by some players..
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Ten Hag stunned Utd by listing EVERYTHING wrong at club in BRUTAL job interview

ERIK TEN HAG stunned Manchester United into giving him the manager’s job following a brutal assessment of the club. Technical director Darren Fletcher and football director John Murtough flew to Amsterdam last month to interview the Ajax boss about taking the Old Trafford hotseat for next season. Erik ten Hag did not hold back in his brutal assessment of the club in his Man Utd. Ten Hag shocked Darren Fletcher with his no-holds-barred dressing down of the club.

Only now can SunSport reveal the incredible detail of that meeting as the straight-talking Dutchman gave the United chiefs a no-holds-barred dressing down.

Both Fletcher and Murtough flew back to Manchester in complete shock after Ten Hag laid bare exactly what he feels is wrong with United. One high-placed Old Trafford source said: “It was like United were being interviewed by Ten Hag rather than the other way round.” Red Devils chief executive Richard Arnold has since flown to the Dutch capital for a one-to-one meeting of his own with the man he hopes can rebuild the fractured fallen giants. Ten Hag is said to have “ripped the United set-up apart” criticising mainly the scouting and recruitment policy. The club has spent around £1billion on new players in the nine years since Sir Alex Ferguson retired but is in a worse state now than during the last three decades. United officials initially took a few days to digest what Ten Hag told them but concluded that, rather than be put out, they were impressed by his frank assessment and his vision for the club.

As revealed by SunSport, the club had already made him their No 1 target after an in-depth dossier was compiled on all the top candidates for the United job. That included Paris Saint-Germain and former Tottenham boss Mauricio Pochettino. Ten Hag does not want the overall power that the likes of Louis van Gaal and Jose Mourinho craved. His interview made clear, however, that he believes the set-up behind the scenes needs a shake-up. While both meetings with Ten Hag were face-to-face, Poch’s was conducted on Zoom and things did not go as well. The French giants have since complained to United about the public courting of their manager, even though he was not their first choice. Pochettino spoke about how much money would be needed to overhaul the squad, many of which he was ready to let go. PSG also wanted to hold out to get a more substantial release fee for a manager they look ready to sack anyway.

Ten Hag listed all the thing he thinks are wrong with Man Utd in his job interview. Ajax, in the meantime, are quite happy to negotiate and allow their manager to leave for a fee of around £2million. United are likely to miss out on the Champions League and maybe even European football altogether. And that could severely hamper the club’s spending power this summer. They have faith, however, that Ten Hag can get the best out of what is already a talented, if under-performing, squad. One that is slipping down the Premier League. Interim boss Ralf Rangnick took over following Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s sacking in November and has since presided over only eight wins in 17 Premier League games. That makes him United’s worst manager in the Prem era — with a win percentage of just 47 per cent. Dissatisfaction among the fanbase is growing to the extent that another planned protest march on Old Trafford is being organised for tomorrow’s home clash against rock-bottom Norwich. One win in their last five league games has left United in seventh, six points behind Tottenham in fourth place — the final Champions League qualification spot. The Red Devils’ last-16 defeat to Atletico Madrid in the Champions League last month meant they are now going to be without a trophy for a fifth successive season.

Ten Hag’s Old Trafford arrival will make it five permanent bosses since Ferguson retired in 2013 — adding to David Moyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho and Solskjaer — to go with two caretakers in Ryan Giggs and Michael Carrick plus the interim Rangnick. The club knows this summer’s appointment is the biggest decision in their most recent history. United are set to announce the arrival of Ten Hag before the end of this season but not ahead of Sunday’s Dutch Cup final between Ajax and PSV Eindhoven. They are also in a title race with PSV, who they lead by four points with five games to go. If they were to win the Eredivisie it would be a third in succession under Ten Hag. A man now charged with landing United’s first since Sir Alex bowed out. Someone who knows what needs to be done — as he told United’s hierarchy out in Amsterdam in no uncertain terms.
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Matic last season here. Would be good if we had him few years earlier
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Matic last season here. Would be good if we had him few years earlier
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His skill and football brain especially his positioning are another level, until now McTom still can’t master

Yeah, really wish he is around 28 - 30, then we won’t be using McFred as 2 men DM
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cant wait for the season to end....
the current player + squad are unbearable...

interesting to see what the new manager will do to current squad.....
will be interesting if the new manager dare to boot the big player....
some jz deserve the boot.......underserve to start at all.....
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QUOTE(Darren @ Apr 16 2022, 12:35 PM)
cant wait for the season to end....
the current player + squad are unbearable...

interesting to see what the new manager will do to current squad.....
will be interesting if the new manager dare to boot the big player....
some jz deserve the boot.......underserve to start at all.....
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1st thing, boot captain. Then others will be lifted
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Very sad state. I dunno you all, it reach a point i don't even bother if there is match tonight feeling.

Even lvg time don't have this feeling!

And I have been watching 90-95% matches since fergie era
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Apr 16 2022, 05:56 PM)
Very sad state. I dunno you all, it reach a point i don't even bother if there is match tonight feeling.

Even lvg time don't have this feeling!

And I have been watching 90-95% matches since fergie era
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I get you. We're treading water and just going through the motions for the season to end.
The kickoff time is nice tonight so I'll be watching.
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LoL, Tottenham lost just now.
Tbh, except the Top 3, none of other PL team deserved to join CL next season, based on PL performance this season.
The most, deserve to qualify Europa League only.

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Wow, can't say Rangnick doesn't want to attack.
Our midfied 3 is Pogba-Bruno-Lingard.
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Nice goal.. confidence sky high now, looking smooth
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17 years of greed
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Pls score more before half time.. later pancit again. Today tott give us chance liao
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Ronaldo in mood today
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This season nobody want to be number 4
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i feel today attacking more forward and more direct into the box, with macfred, feel like sloppy and slow. but without those 2 our back more expose
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lol why maguire out of position?
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maguire got drag out unnecessarily so silly.

can our kaptain actually sprint? and then kenot recover back...jog sajer.. pointing finger.

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Play Maguire anywhere and there will be holes on that side
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I really doubt Maguire got any football intelligence or not...
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This proves Man Utd really needs a DM
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the whole backline got drag out becos of kaptain. 80million and he followed blindly. Did he even look around.

often committing himself when it's unnecessary and put the whole team on the back foot.

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1st half Lingard was damn good.. not rushing attack when its not necessary.. allowing teammates to overload the box frequently..

The better no. 10 on the pitch for 45min for now..
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1st half Lingard was damn good.. not rushing attack when its not necessary.. allowing teammates to overload the box frequently..

The better no. 10 on the pitch for 45min for now..
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This proves Man Utd really needs a DM
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If u talking about Norwich goal, it is actually "This prove Captain need to leave if we want rebuild."
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Apr 16 2022, 11:03 PM)
If u talking about Norwich goal, it is actually "This prove Captain need to leave if we want rebuild."
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kaptain know what formation we played or not? he expect pogba to cover centre for him kah? no recovery pace, drag out. destroyed the whole backline

and he is the 1 that always throw the whole team under the bus
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i'm just worried the new manager will also stick with maguire.. until the day maguire retires he will continue to haunt United. biggrin.gif
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this 1 is like testimonial game for lingard to get a good transfer fee.. lolx
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topkek def
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HM can't block it lmao
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Norwich getting confident now... doh.gif
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we look more like relegating team
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A good crosser doesn’t mean good defending

Telles really….
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The cb need to stop going forward too much
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lol HM injured Pogba ..
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Meguire being meguire again.
Pogba bleeding


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hahahaha maguire, taking out own team mate again.. hahahahaha

can 101% confirm, we are not against norwich.. we are playing against maguire.. hahahaha

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lol... pogba got kick by HM.
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lol HM injured Pogba ..
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Pogba stares at hm, looks like he's going to punch hm after the match.
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Pls sub captain out... He did not even care
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Haiz .... Captain x 3
He is like a curse man, Come on Rangnick, just drop him for once man.
Even the teammates are so disappointed when they see captain on the pitch.
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Bruno Pogba keep giving ball away
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Ler the better no. 10 got subbed out.. crazy
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Should sub Bruno and not lingard
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how many times have bruno and pogba lost possession?
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Should sub Bruno and not lingard
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Sub off Lingard, haiz.
That's why I said, Rangnick is better than Ole, but nothing more than that.
Can't believe some fans actually advocate him to be permanent manager. Haiz
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Bruno being Bruno again…. Sloppy first touch and miss cross, pass and lose possession as always
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Apr 16 2022, 11:30 PM)
Sub off Lingard, haiz.
That's why I said, Rangnick is better than Ole, but nothing more than that.
Can't believe some fans actually advocate him to be permanent manager. Haiz
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Real Madrid would've sacked him 2 weeks ago..
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shouldnt be lingard, should be bruno, he is having a bad bad game.

but again, no one is worse than HM, he just pile on pressure on the whole team, just when the team tot they are winning, come kaptain dragging the whole team down again
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Mata in... Hope he can sneak in some goals
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nice free kick from CR.
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Now pls sub kapitan out before he screw up again
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Rashford just love to dribble into opponents feet.

Why?
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wtf ddg
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Right decision. Safety first, he was put under pressure.
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FFFFFUUUUU I sold Ronaldo for freaking Kane in Fantasy League. xD
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rashford....ooo rashford.. why u only dribble? pass la...
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FFFFFUUUUU I sold Ronaldo for freaking Kane in Fantasy League. xD
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When Matic Mata on the pitch, Bruno looks calmer now…
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When Matic Mata on the pitch, Bruno looks calmer now…
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was it me or did anyone else see maguire sad/annoyed face after ronaldo scored? as tou he is playing for norwich.. hahah the facial expression macam norwich team
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Maguire's long passing....
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Harry Maguire con't to start every game
despite that horror displays

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2 goals caused from Telles

It is time to promote Alvaro Fernandes to play left back
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Aiyooo mata kena rashford virus.. did not pass.
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2 goals caused from Telles

It is time to promote Alvaro Fernandes to play left back
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lindelof and telles have to def against 3 ppl when maguire vacated his position
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The hell with the rush passes.. just keep the ball around la
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i didnt watch the full game...my guess those 2 conceded goal involved maguire...am i right?
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Rashford just love to dribble into opponents feet.

Why?
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I think almost all his 1 on 1 dribble attempt failed today...
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Waiting for potential GIF of Maguire and Pogba.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 16 2022, 11:41 PM)
Right decision. Safety first, he was put under pressure.
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i didnt watch the full game...my guess those 2 conceded goal involved maguire...am i right?
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First goal yes.
2nd goal not.

Oh btw, he hurt Pogba, bleeding on scalp above right ear.
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Hahaha, maguire annoyed face when Ronaldo score free kick!!!

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Boot Maguire and start looking for his replacement(not gonna be hard) plus get top class DM, AM and CM..
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Where is the Old Trafford hero Cavani? Doing his 'elite' movements at home?
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He only fit during international game and get mystery injured when back to united

I still think MU’s chances still low cuz we still need to play against Pool, Chelsea and Arsenal

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Hat trick again for Big Problem CR7. With Arsenal and Spurs both losing, i really hope we can somehow make top 4. If we avoid losing to Liverpool, i think we have a chance.
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That maguire fella really done nthg to merit a start. But probably the manager felt others were worse ... Tells u how bad the backline is :S
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That maguire fella really done nthg to merit a start. But probably the manager felt others were worse ... Tells u how bad the backline is :S
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Dont think so. Others that start played better than him and next game would still be benched. If next manager cant boot him. There is no rebuild. Cant carry a burden and expect progress. Dude cant even start for any of a decent team
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The infamous "starts whenever available for selection" contract clause rumour.
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News coming out that some of the English core (Maguire & Rashford were named) are not happy with the appointment of Ten Hag and they preferred Poch. No contract extensions to be offered until Ten Hag speaks to these players and decides.

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News coming out that some of the English core (Maguire & Rashford were named) are not happy with the appointment of Ten Hag and they preferred Poch. No contract extensions to be offered until Ten Hag speaks to these players and decides.
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News coming out that some of the English core (Maguire & Rashford were named) are not happy with the appointment of Ten Hag and they preferred Poch. No contract extensions to be offered until Ten Hag speaks to these players and decides.
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Maguire is already on thin ice with the fans, really despise him larh, hopefully he gets sold.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 17 2022, 09:24 AM)
News coming out that some of the English core (Maguire & Rashford were named) are not happy with the appointment of Ten Hag and they preferred Poch. No contract extensions to be offered until Ten Hag speaks to these players and decides.
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At least not offering contract till tenhag is here. Both can go fly kite.
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Watched recorded without knowing result. Elanga siuuu so funny.

Bailed out by cr again. Double hatrick in a season. If in a better team, he easily 40 goals a season. Never expect freekick score. He didn't score from free kick for such a long time.

Maguire same old maguire. Undroppable. Really hope we can beat pool. The incentive is there
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Checking the table, top4 still within reach. Spurs vs arsenal. Spurs vs pool. Us vs arsenal.

It's all in our hands now.
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Watched the 2nd half again.. Mata coming in and straight away the bettter no. 10.. showed how a real playmaker play..

33 year old dude that been frozen.. been playing on right wing majority of his career at United.. still a better playmaker than the starter.. crazy
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It's all in our hands now.
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Maguire is already on thin ice with the fans, really despise him larh, hopefully he gets sold.
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Maguire is already on thin ice with the fans, really despise him larh, hopefully he gets sold.
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Ajax behind 2-1.. hope he wins the title :S
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Ajax behind 2-1.. hope he wins the title :S
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Apr 18 2022, 09:59 AM)
Another nearlee manager like poch?
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so fast judge him based on just this result? he improved ajax since he come to ajax.

just put it this way if the fans can put up with ole for 3 years and bearing his marque signing like maguire. this is how low ole as the manager has brought us down even with backings financially.

i think we can give the same 3 years with ten hag. worked with limited budgets at ajax and played well at cl. not just talking about that one game comeback vs psg over and over again. i can only imagine the work this ten hag has to deal with if he has to continue using maguire.

maguire achievement in a red shirt just this season
- wrestled own teammate (shaw, lindelof)
- headbutted cr in a attacking set piece
- scorpion kicked pogba
- rasa beckenbaur and pass to opponent - lost count
- went out of position and caused the team to concede - lost count
- apology post - lost count
- cant run, cant position, only can do header over the post
- basically playing against the team every game

not including his 3 or 4 relegation achievements notworthy.gif


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Sucks.. gonna be another few years of rebuild... Added on maybe need 30 years like Liverpool soon
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Here's Maguire's reaction to Ronaldo's winning freekick goal.


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Must be something happen between the two in the team room during 2nd half break
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Here we go. ETH.


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Here's Maguire's reaction to Ronaldo's winning freekick goal.


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Condolences to Ronaldo on the death of his baby son. sad.gif

Guess he's gonna miss Liverpool's game.. and probably Arsenal too..

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Condolences to Cristiano Ronaldo and family cry.gif
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 18 2022, 09:12 PM)
Here's Maguire's reaction to Ronaldo's winning freekick goal.


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He is from opposite team surely cant be happy for the goal ma
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10 years on, not much difference.. still shoot on sight, pump the ball up front..
the complaining and whining is getting better though..

United got scammed
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City is getting Haaland. Things are getting worst isn’t it? 🤣

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...ng-Haaland.html
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He is from opposite team surely cant be happy for the goal ma
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Some of the English players looked half hearted in celebration for what was a late winning goal as well.
The dressing room split looks big and I guess Ronaldo's the only player big enough to be able to come in and stand up to the cliques. I can see in the summer either Ronaldo goes or some of the English groupies go.

QUOTE(damnself @ Apr 19 2022, 09:10 AM)
City is getting Haaland. Things are getting worst isn’t it? 🤣

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...ng-Haaland.html
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Not too sussed about it. I think Haaland is vastly overrated for what he is. Him being Raiola's client means it is a lot of PR spin.
As a forward he's good but not as good as he is marketed to be. Any forward worth his salt is going to have a good time at City. Ronaldo would have 40 goals this season if he went to City.

Right now, it doesn't matter who our rivals buy. We won't be challenging them next season anyway.
Our fight is internally with ourselves and our own deadwood first.

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QUOTE(damnself @ Apr 19 2022, 09:10 AM)
City is getting Haaland. Things are getting worst isn’t it? 🤣

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...ng-Haaland.html
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not really. you can have haaland cr messi in one team also cant progress if you keep playing maguire that keep farking your degea.

the manager if got balls should clear the english virus since the french virus is confirmed to be leaving already.

still cant believe we bought the dude for 80m when there isnt really any competitor for his service. mega_shok.gif and despite the performance week in week out still the captain and still starts. wont believe bailley lindelof is behind this guy... even ronaldo as a defender can play better than him
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My condolences to Cristiano and his wife. RIP dear baby boy.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 19 2022, 09:21 AM)
not really. you can have haaland cr messi in one team also cant progress if you keep playing maguire that keep farking your degea.

the manager if got balls should clear the english virus since the french virus is confirmed to be leaving already.

still cant believe we bought the dude for 80m when there isnt really any competitor for his service.  mega_shok.gif and despite the performance week in week out still the captain and still starts. wont believe bailley lindelof is behind this guy... even ronaldo as a defender can play better than him
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Some of the English players looked half hearted in celebration for what was a late winning goal as well.
The dressing room split looks big and I guess Ronaldo's the only player big enough to be able to come in and stand up to the cliques. I can see in the summer either Ronaldo goes or some of the English groupies go.
Not too sussed about it. I think Haaland is vastly overrated for what he is. Him being Raiola's client means it is a lot of PR spin.
As a forward he's good but not as good as he is marketed to be. Any forward worth his salt is going to have a good time at City. Ronaldo would have 40 goals this season if he went to City.

Right now, it doesn't matter who our rivals buy. We won't be challenging them next season anyway.
Our fight is internally with ourselves and our own deadwood first.
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It’s sad you know. Last time when Manchester United is a powerhouse at the early stage we fight with arsenal. The later stage with chelsea. And then city.

I would really like to see us as previously fighting against city, liverpool and chelsea now. But yeah that would not happen anytime soon 🤣
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10 years on, not much difference.. still shoot on sight, pump the ball up front..
the complaining and whining is getting better though..

United got scammed
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According to the MEN, Maguire is in genuine danger of being stripped of the armband next season, with Ten Hag reportedly considering the prospect of signing Antonio Rudiger from Chelsea, who could effectively replace Maguire at the back.

Should Ten Hag indeed name a new United skipper and effectively freeze out Maguire at Old Trafford then the Glazers' decision to bankroll Ole Gunnar Solskjaer will prove to be a poor one.

Solskjaer parted with £80million to land Maguire from Leicester City in 2019, making him the most expensive defender in the world. The then-United boss predicted the England international would lead the Red Devils for years to come.

"Harry is one of the best centre-backs in the game today," Solskjaer said at Maguire's unveiling. "He is a great reader of the game and has a strong presence on the pitch, with the ability to remain calm under pressure. He will fit well into this group both on and off the pitch."
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The Mirror reports that Erik ten Hag has a list of players already in mind for Manchester United, should he join as expected this summer. First up are two of his current Ajax players, 22-year-old Antony and 20-year-old defender Jurrien Timbers. In addition, there is also interest in River Plate midfielder Enzo Fernandez, 21, and Everton’s 19-year-old central defender Jarrad Branthwaite.

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 18 2022, 10:11 AM)
so fast judge him based on just this result? he improved ajax since he come to ajax.

just put it this way if the fans can put up with ole for 3 years and bearing his marque signing like maguire. this is how low ole as the manager has brought us down even with backings financially.

i think we can give the same 3 years with ten hag. worked with limited budgets at ajax and played well at cl. not just talking about that one game comeback vs psg over and over again. i can only imagine the work this ten hag has to deal with if he has to continue using maguire.

maguire achievement in a red shirt just this season
- wrestled own teammate (shaw, lindelof)
- headbutted cr in a attacking set piece
- scorpion kicked pogba
- rasa beckenbaur and pass to opponent - lost count
- went out of position and caused the team to concede - lost count
- apology post - lost count
- cant run, cant position, only can do header over the post
- basically playing against the team every game

not including his 3 or 4 relegation achievements  notworthy.gif
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Cause ole also nearlee manager. Reach most semi finals and out. Every season ini kalilah, like that pass 3 years d. Rr dun even have ini kalilah feel.

Any manager who can get the best of maguire is good manager. But I guess sell is easiest option lol. Maguire will cost you the job. It will be ridiculous changing managers and we still see maguire week in week out
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Sad news from Cr7.

On the other hand pool no need face him. They also no face kdb last week I think?
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Apr 19 2022, 01:28 PM)
Sad news from Cr7.

On the other hand pool no need face him. They also no face kdb last week I think?
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Not as if we spent 100 mil on him, and his wages arent crazy.
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oh yeah its ok to play mediocre player week in week out because his transfer fee and salary aint that big while better players sit on the bench or left out of the squad..

its not about transfer fee and wages.. its about performance.. Grealish dont get to start often until he can up his game..
this guy get to do stinker every week like Maguire.. but its okay because he didnt cost the same?

no wonder player like Luke Shaw get to be at United for 8 years.. some players performance dont get scrutiny..

because of transfer fee and wages
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Eh, tonight vs pool d. Cepatnya
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'the problem' dont create chances they say laugh.gif
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No Ronaldo, chances are low.. would be good to get a draw but with Mcguire in the starting. Mission impossible.
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so with maguire playing we are usually conceding, which means liverpool will score . if can keep clean sheet really miracle
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Rangnick announces Man Utd revolution: "It's not enough to bring in three or four new players. It will be more, bearing in mind how many players will no longer be here [out of contract]"


THANKIU. kick them all
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Rangnick announces Man Utd revolution: "It's not enough to bring in three or four new players. It will be more, bearing in mind how many players will no longer be here [out of contract]"
THANKIU. kick them all
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did he really said this? last transfer window he kept quite about incomings..  hmm.gif
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https://www.skysports.com/football/news/116...on-jurgen-klopp
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 19 2022, 06:42 PM)
finally talking some sense about transfers..

last January let 5 go out on loan without a replacement, reducing squad depth..
end up failed miserably in 2 possible trophy competitions, 4 wins in 13..

club like United should be able to sign 6-7 quality players this coming transfer window..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 19 2022, 06:56 PM)
finally talking some sense about transfers..

last January let 5 go out on loan without a replacement, reducing squad depth..
end up failed miserably in 2 possible trophy competitions, 4 wins in 13..

club like United should be able to sign 6-7 quality players this coming transfer window..
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'the problem' dont create chances they say  laugh.gif
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Well, I guess we can look forward to starting alively discussion on who is coming in.
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Chelsea spend 236m in a summer window for 7 players on Lampard request..
Real spend 362m in a window for 6 players in 19/20..
City spend 289m in a window for 7 players in 17/18..

With the billions that the club generated, United should be able to spend at a similar range to improve the squad..

Glazer's media buddies succesfully fooled United fans that signing player needs time across multiple tranfer windows..

Really hope things will turn around.. if not hope Ten Hag expose them..
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Phil Jones start lol. Awb maguire, super gg combo
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I will just keep saying it.
Rangnick is better than Ole, but nothing more than that.

Didn't even give Jones a single minute after 1st of March, then now throw him to face pool.

Some fans even wanted him to become permanent manager. Haiz ....

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Harry Maguire: "I wouldn't be playing every game for Manchester United in the starting eleven if I'd been playing bad every game. There's a reason why both managers have put me in the starting eleven every game."

WOW ....
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Ayam dont wanna watch. Better sleep or Netflix. I wish the best for the team. If can draw also good enough. It is not easy almost every game have to play 10 vs 12.
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I watch first half maybe
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Apr 20 2022, 02:45 AM)
Harry Maguire: "I wouldn't be playing every game for Manchester United in the starting eleven if I'd been playing bad every game. There's a reason why both managers have put me in the starting eleven every game."

WOW ....
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Bocor

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That was quick.. their January signing scored..
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captain out of position again?
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What is the purpose of playing back 5 ?
Bocor like stupid.
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lulz play back 5 high line with maguire against klopp lulz

this fraud ole 2.0 really at another level kind of shit
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Defence in shambles
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Luke Shaw really need to go.. the whole season he can play ok, only now suddenly wanna go for surgery..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 20 2022, 03:20 AM)
Luke Shaw really need to go.. the whole season he can play ok, only now suddenly wanna go for surgery..
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I didnt watch the goal. Maguire at fault or not?
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2-0 lmao

How many goals we gonna concede tonight
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lukz the ball went passed maguire like a training ground lulz...
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The gap of quality is too big and they still dont want to protest collectively.. United are doomed
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Captain x 3, how many protection does he need?
Whole 10 teammates? Haiz
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I didnt watch the goal. Maguire at fault or not?
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its the stupid back 5 dont know what to do.
just a simple 1 touch to mane and then all of sudden maguire dalot out of position dont know what to do

again maguire always a free man wasted player at the back really take him out

rangnick is really shit

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Haha..ole out..so what?..better now?..kek
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7-1 was the heaviest defeat United got from Liverpool back in 1916.. will it break tonight?
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i really hope klopp just trash this team 9-0 .. just please make it happen until this german ole strip that armband off maguire.. just please dear god make it happen
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Cmon SAF walk out, kick start the revolution..
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why the F did we even get ragnick? I don't even hear his name before this. Would rather just stick with Carrick as interim until new manager comes.
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Playing back 5, but both fullback still in center instead of marking opponent wings. What is the difference with Ole?

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Its not that they are too good, United just too poor
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Out out out
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never in my sane mind ever imagine this god of gegenpressing will play back 5 with maguire and jones together .. what a shit manager .. proven shit just fkuc off!! FCUK FCUK FCUK FCUK

the only logic reason is that rangnick want to show to the world how shit this team is
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Dalot struggling on the left, not his natural position
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maguire bringing the whole team down with his comical defence and ZERO sense.
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The new Cantona looks like dont wanna play anymore..
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Even before the match, it is already expected
Liverpool is too good, we are too bad,
We are gonna lose at least 3-0.
Even back 5 formation is expected.

Yet, the stupidity the way how Rangnick use the back 5 as same Ole is simply devastating.
Just simply put back 5, no man marking, no zone marking, no whatsoever.
Already 3 CB, still ask both fullbacks to cover 3 CB instead of zone marking on both flank, which is the most dangerous threats from pool.

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Apr 20 2022, 03:34 AM)
never in my sane mind ever imagine this god of gegenpressing will play back 5 with maguire and jones together .. what a shit manager .. proven shit just fkuc off!! FCUK FCUK FCUK FCUK

the only logic reason is that rangnick want to show to the world how shit this team is
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wow hold your horse, chill mang, he already told us that he Abaddon his philosophy (gegenpressing) for the sake of players his have
when can u admit that man utd squad is a joke? this is not fifa man where u can control the players. in his latest PC, he also acknowledge that man utd need to buy alot of new players.

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Apr 20 2022, 03:48 AM)
Even before the match, it is already expected
Liverpool is too good, we are too bad,
We are gonna lose at least 3-0.
Even back 5 formation is expected.

Yet, the stupidity the way how Rangnick use the back 5 as same Ole is simply devastating.
Just simply put back 5, no man marking, no zone marking, no whatsoever.
Already 3 CB, still ask both fullbacks to cover 3 CB instead of zone marking on both flank, which is the most dangerous threats from pool.
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Yep 3 CB but still the fullback tucked in.. doesnt make sense one bit..
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Why keep wanna play from the back when you dont have any player that good on the ball and press resistant?
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Nothing much can be done if the MF is
Fernandes - always give ball away, out of position and whine
Pogba - always robbed by opponent, give ball away and inconsistent
Matic - way too old and slow, should not start for Un8ted anymore
McTominay - average player
Fred - average player
Mata - way too old and slow

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QUOTE(john_white @ Apr 20 2022, 03:52 AM)
wow hold your horse, chill mang, he already told us that he Abaddon his philosophy (gegenpressing) for the sake of players his have
when can u admit that man utd squad is a joke? this is not fifa man where u can control the players. in his latest PC, he also acknowledge that man utd need to buy alot of new players.
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a.k.a USELESS

just good at talking. thats it.

USELESS

NO POWER, NOTHING. JUST TALK.
IN OTHER WORDS = USELESS

thats why maguire still a captain
why? because this manager is useless
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Apr 20 2022, 03:57 AM)
Nothing much can be done if the MF is
Fernandes - always give ball away, out of position and whine
Pogba - always robbed by opponent, give ball away and inconsistent
Matic - way too old and slow, should not start for Un8ted anymore
McTominay - average player
Fred - average player
Mata - way too old and slow
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no 1 can do anything with the current back 4 shaky as hell, MF cant do their job getting into the right position if they have to keep worrying to run back to help the back 5? lolxx
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shit.. fcuking embarrassing

if this german fraud still play back 5 at 2nd half, thats shows how shit he is.

prove me wrong
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Jones out instead of Maguire.. why?
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Jones out instead of Maguire.. why?
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We fans in the first half see Jones did nothing wrong.
Captain responsible at least 50% for both goals.
Yet, whew ~
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And then, Rangnick said this team lack of pressing attitude.
And the fans simply acknowledge, ya x 3.

Actually u guys don't see another bigger issue?
That is all players have no skill on how to handle pressing.
All players will lost the ball when being pressed.
That is a way bigger issue than not pressing.
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Brighton played better against them..
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Haha..ole out..so what?..better now?..kek
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Stop letting Bruno take set pieces, its a total waste every time..
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just look at bruno body language moans moans moans JUST PLAY!!!
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lol maguire ahahahahahaha
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maguire just dont know what to do because he is too slow to react.. useless
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Maguire if you put side by side with a turtle, the turtle seems quicker than him
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Apr 20 2022, 04:28 AM)
just look at bruno body language moans moans moans JUST PLAY!!!
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When u not that good, thats the default go to mode when shit dont go your way..

United board: yes, 5 more years of that please
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1st and 3rd goal, both bcuz captain not man marking Mane close enough.
Haiz ...

I will just see if Ten Hag will drop him next season ...
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 20 2022, 04:32 AM)
When u not that good, thats the default go to mode when shit dont go your way..

United board: yes, 5 more years of that please
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and double the pay
they should know by the stats alone esp towards last season
that whining bruno is a joke
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Even 2nd goal, captain shud man marking Salah as he was left side of 3 CB, haiz ...
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The mentality is on the lowest level regardless of who is taking over.

Majority ain't good needs to do major overhaul. Maguire, Shaw, Rashford, Wan Bisaka. All of them should even be allowed to stay on the bench let alone to play full time
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Let's say fans are superb wrong, captain is actually good.
Then Rangnick u just bench him several matches, let the world see that actually he is not that bad, help him to reduce pressure.

Yet, play him every match.
Him make stupid errors every match.

I really can't understand the way Rangnick handle Captain issue.
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Even Rashford is a joke now.
Like that also not on Target, haiz
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Apr 20 2022, 04:35 AM)
Even 2nd goal, captain shud man marking Salah as he was left side of 3 CB, haiz ...
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manager is important
but players are the ones doing the real job
current squad is finished once the board backed up pogba vs mourinho
then they con't the rot with solskjaer with these feel good/history sentiment
but that cannot hide the failure forever, bruno is just temporary fix, OGS's United was sugar coated by player magic moments
fans coming back to stadium and tightened var simply reduced bruno and put huge pressure back on OGS
United simply played w/o clear identity under OGS
hopefully next manager will fix it..pogba and bunch of players out of contract are good start
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Haiz .. captain again.
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Official club announcement on Ten Hag tomorrow to sooth the pain?
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bloody HM poor pass forced the error
HM should be out net season
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Apr 20 2022, 04:45 AM)
Haiz ..  captain again.
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That was a dumb pass.. putting own teammates under pressure..

What even worse is that the commentators dont even call it out.. the guy got serious protection
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I expect some web will rate captain 0/10.
It sums up his performance this match.
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maguire always do that kinda stewpid pass. so difficult to control. awkward height, slow as hell loop ball... and before the ball reaches you, you are already tussling/get a body contact..

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Actually we are know the players are big problem, no need to talk about it no more.
But isn't Rangnick the issue as well?

Even blind knows captain need to be dropped
Yet he keep starting him.

Really? Only players issue? No issue from Rangnick at all?
It is both players and manager issue.
Rangnick is better than Ole, but nothing more than that.
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i already give up this season, i just watch because i love football (man utd) and i want to watch harry maguire mistake. i guess we need to check what inside maguire contract.
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 20 2022, 03:34 AM)
Its not that they are too good, United just too poor
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Just accept they are too good and we are too poor. If not how they can 4 goals on us?

We have to accept that we are no longer top tier club and face it! Out out out Rannick! Piss poor!
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...it all started with back 5 and maguire. after 2-0 with maguire still on the pitch its a game over.

this team is finished.

THANKS TO THAT OLE THE FRAUD
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...it all started with back 5 and maguire. after 2-0 with maguire still on the pitch its a game over.

this team is finished.

THANKS TO THAT OLE THE FRAUD
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7-8 more players that got composure and good on the ball like Sancho should be signed this coming window..

He would be flying high if he play in that Liv side
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Oiiii…mana pundek?
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 20 2022, 05:04 AM)
7-8 more players that got composure and good on the ball like Sancho should be signed this coming window..

He would be flying high if he play in that Liv side
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He probably regret now. Sigh
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QUOTE(CounterRealm @ Apr 20 2022, 05:00 AM)
Just accept they are too good and we are too poor. If not how they can 4 goals on us?

We have to accept that we are no longer top tier club and face it! Out out out Rannick! Piss poor!
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Nah.. even Watford can score 4 against United.. they nowhere near top 2
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one more things, sack all the coach
remove all english stupid privileges', man utd players out of chemistry
i do blame coach on this one
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This match clearly show the hard work players vs lazy pig, pampered, self-centred, and diva players

Talents alone won't help the team. For me the only players that show up to Sancho, Elanga and De Gea.

The rest smiling with a weekend luxury paycheck

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 20 2022, 05:06 AM)
Nah.. even Watford can score 4 against United.. they nowhere near top 2
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7-8 more players that got composure and good on the ball like Sancho should be signed this coming window..

He would be flying high if he play in that Liv side
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May be he already want to leave.
Ole cheated him.
Well Ole cheated lots of people.
VDB, Varane, Bailly, Lingard, etc
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Apr 20 2022, 05:07 AM)
This match clearly show the hard work players vs lazy pig, pampered, self-centred, and diva players

Talents alone won't help the team. For me the only players that show up to Sancho, Elanga and De Gea.

The rest smiling with a weekend luxury paycheck
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And Hannibal, give him some credit.
He really play with heart.
It shows, even with less than 10 mins.

Lingard is half half, he is willing to run.
But pool is too strong for him.
Made more mistakes than usual under top pressure from pool players.
But still, got heart, it shows.

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Space never score a goal in a football match.. yet Maguire prefer to mark space than the oppo player..

4x relegation CB level..
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QUOTE(john_white @ Apr 20 2022, 05:06 AM)
one more things, sack all the coach
remove all english stupid privileges', man utd players out of chemistry
i do blame coach on this one
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If you want make a nuclear the chemical must be correct not randomly put some helium, noble gas and ,carbide expecting turn into nuclear warheads. Even though lead by Robert Oppenheimer and Albert Einstein together
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By the way where is pundek???
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Apr 20 2022, 05:10 AM)
And Hannibal, give him some credit.
He really play with heart.
It shows, even with less than 10 mins.

Lingard is half half, he is willing to run.
But pool is too strong for him.
Made more mistakes than usual under top pressure from pool players.
But still, got heart, it shows.
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All the good players with heart should leave and play for other team. Let the ship sinks deeper. Sigh sad
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By the way where is pundek???
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its time to wake up Old Trafford fans.. demand more

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i do believe in RR but not in term of managerial position
he's become advisor after this and i hope BOD will follow his request
based on his record in management, i would said that he success change the club.
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lol Keano dont wanna be involved in protecting Maguire anymore.. Sky not gonna invite him anymore?
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 20 2022, 04:48 AM)
That was a dumb pass.. putting own teammates  under pressure..

What even worse is that the commentators dont even call it out.. the guy got serious protection
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It’s the same in every club. English players are protected by the media

Even in Pool, now matter how poor Hendo is, he still get good ratings. In the case of Maguire, only god almighty knows how this guy can still remain on the pitch
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Its okay, you guys are going to see a lot of maguire again next season LEL
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A proper thrashing with the customary Maguire gifts for the third and fourth goal.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Apr 20 2022, 07:33 AM)
It’s the same in every club. English players are protected by the media

Even in Pool, now matter how poor Hendo is, he still get good ratings. In the case of Maguire, only god almighty knows how this guy can still remain on the pitch
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Nt even sure how he can be a pro footballer
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Nt even sure how he can be a pro footballer
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That is skill and he earns more than all of us combined. Same umbrella not same handle. 🥱
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I predicted a 3-0 first half and 0-0 second half after they switch off and avoid injuries. I see that salah played to the end. Guess I forgot they are pros, my mistake.


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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Apr 20 2022, 08:43 AM)
I predicted a 3-0 first half and 0-0 second half after they switch off and avoid injuries. I see that salah played to the end. Guess I forgot they are pros, my mistake.
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Liverpool did drop the intensity second half. Felt both goals in the second half were literally gifts by Maguire.
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we still got City and Chelsea next?
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 20 2022, 08:45 AM)
Liverpool did drop the intensity second half. Felt both goals in the second half were literally gifts by Maguire.
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maguire the king biggrin.gif we gonna see him full 90 mins for the next 5 games.
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we still got City and Chelsea next?
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Yes. Ooh boy, hang on to your hats.

QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 20 2022, 08:53 AM)
maguire the king  biggrin.gif we gonna see him full 90 mins for the next 5 games.
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The camera went to Rangnick after the third goal and he was furious. Maguire not even bothering to get close to Mane and jogging.
Maguire probably trying to clip some long passes for his Twitter account by trying the pass which resulted in the fourth goal.


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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 20 2022, 08:59 AM)
Yes. Ooh boy, hang on to your hats.
The camera went to Rangnick after the third goal and he was furious. Maguire not even bothering to get close to Mane and jogging.
Maguire probably trying to clip some long passes for his Twitter account by trying the pass which resulted in the fourth goal.
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Goal 2 to 4 all happened in frnt of him he was like oh wells. And he didnt even bother to pressure.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 20 2022, 08:45 AM)
Liverpool did drop the intensity second half. Felt both goals in the second half were literally gifts by Maguire.
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Of course, I should have never under estimated the generosity of Lord Maguire, the only player who represents 19 teams in EPL, the hardest player De Gea's ever played with, scorpion kungfu master

My biggest mistake.

QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 20 2022, 09:06 AM)
Yes, this is our Lord and saviour. Player of 19 separate teams in EPL (A Guinness world record).

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Apr 20 2022, 04:40 AM)
Let's say fans are superb wrong, captain is actually good.
Then Rangnick u just bench him several matches, let the world see that actually he is not that bad, help him to reduce pressure.

Yet, play him every match.
Him make stupid errors every match.

I really can't understand the way Rangnick handle Captain issue.
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if you think about it, if Maguire indeed has some protection from top due to price tag and what not, you as temporary manager has no power over it, what would you do?
Keep playing him as per contract, no need to protect him! Let him expose his short comings, get the fans turn on the players and build pressure to top. Then top will see no options but to get rid of the players.

You can see now almost everyone/fans are asking him to get out as weeks go by.
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Ralf has not done much by most account. He tried to make us press and it only worked for 10minutes.
After that back to helter skelter.

So, in this case since he also knows its FUBAR - he just let the world and owners see how sh!t Maguire (and the rest of players like Pog) really are. Not a terribly awful plan. Since that will finally rule out that it was only Ole who is stupid enough to stick with this team.

Multi factorial root cause does present a more difficult problem to solve. Its not just a matter of either tactics, coaching, fitness, recruitment, youth development, attitude and mentality. Perhaps it is ALL.
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Mark goldbridge was having an absolute field day on Maguire

Aper lanjiao terms pun dah keluar in his commentatory lol from pigeon shit, statue defending and black paw beach etc
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The loss is good. It further exposes the players for what they are and highlights the hole that we are in to the Board.
Look at the bigger picture.

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'Embarrassing. Disappointing. Humiliating': Ralf Rangnick pulls no punches as he says Manchester United are 'SIX YEARS' behind Liverpool... and claims up to 'TEN' players could join in summer rebuild

'There will be a rebuild here,' he told reporters in his post-match press conference.  'Six, seven, maybe 10 new players will come.

'(Liverpool) have better players than we have and this was really reflected by the result today.

'There will be a rebuild for sure, that was obvious in the first three or four weeks for me. For us it is extremely embarrassing as a coaching staff to sit here and have a press conference like this. We just have to admit they are better than us.'
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It allows Rangnick to set the importance of the rebuild and back Ten Hag to get the players he wants.
Most importantly, the backing to throw players that are not needed out.

See what Rangnick has been doing post match in the press conferences. He is setting up the problem statement for the Board.
The match is not important for what it is. Using the match to get traction for our summer strategy is.


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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 20 2022, 10:13 AM)
The loss is good. It further exposes the players for what they are and highlights the hole that we are in to the Board.
Look at the bigger picture.
It allows Rangnick to set the importance of the rebuild and back Ten Hag to get the players he wants.
Most importantly, the backing to throw players that are not needed out.

See what Rangnick has been doing post match in the press conferences. He is setting up the problem statement for the Board.
The match is not important for what it is. Using the match to get traction for our summer strategy is.
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Well out of contract and leaving
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-Cavani

Has to leave
-Maguire
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-Greenwood?
-Henderson?
-Bailley?

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as usual peti ais maguire is utter shit....and i am not surprise by this 4-0 result..
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I actually echoed few views on RR don't really care about this season anymore, as this season is done for already but to show how sh*t our current team is. Team will have high and low, but if we can use this low to create chance for us to climb higher, so be it.

I fully expect RR will just using the same team on next few matches to further prove his points as I not quite sure how thick the skull of Glazers is to really accept the facts and finally gives in to protect their investment value in Man Utd.


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At this point, RR should have benched Maguire already. The whole world already know how shit he is. No point trying to prove something that is so obvious. Unless of course, there's power play behind the scene.
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Apr 20 2022, 10:59 AM)
At this point, RR should have benched Maguire already. The whole world already know how shit he is. No point trying to prove something that is so obvious. Unless of course, there's power play behind the scene.
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you can see it this way. bench him and fans forget him and board thinks still can salvage him. and we see him again next few seasons.

or play him till fans protest.

we will see if ten hag still needs time to access this fraud captain. season write off already when after 5-0 we still give chance to ole. biggrin.gif now just enjoy tiktok memes of maguire every match


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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Apr 20 2022, 10:59 AM)
At this point, RR should have benched Maguire already. The whole world already know how shit he is. No point trying to prove something that is so obvious. Unless of course, there's power play behind the scene.
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Maguire using his influence in media, ex-players and in the dressing room to cement his place as an untouchable in the squad.
Rangnick now dismantling that status by letting him play and exposing him until he no longer as influence and his media friends no longer want to back him so the captaincy and be taken off and maybe Maguire offloaded.

So by making everyone sick of Maguire, it paves the way for a rebuild.

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and the local fans there are not helping. they are far too kind. should have boo-ed the shit out of him. shit ass capt
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sell HM to newcastle
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Imagine u being the reason your team keeps conceding, and yet u act like its others fault n try to lift people around u. I duno how the players can tolerate him. How do u even shout commands when urself is shit?
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Apr 20 2022, 11:21 AM)
sell HM to newcastle
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Lol people shitting on Newcastle who is 17 points behind. Meanwhile, man utd is 20 points behind man city.

At least they scored 1 in Anfield.

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sell HM to newcastle
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None of them is playing for honour anymore except a few like De Gea last night.
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Apr 20 2022, 11:18 AM)
and the local fans there are not helping. they are far too kind. should have boo-ed the shit out of him. shit ass capt
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can only boo pogba and other non english players...
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 20 2022, 11:31 AM)
Lol people shitting on Newcastle who is 17 points behind. Meanwhile, man utd is 20 points behind man city.

At least they scored 1 in Anfield.
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force HM to accept newcastle grand arab plan
that is the only way to get high bidder/someone that can pay hm wages
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 20 2022, 11:11 AM)
you can see it this way. bench him and fans forget him and board thinks still can salvage him. and we see him again next few seasons.

or play him till fans protest.

we will see if ten hag still needs time to access this fraud captain. season write off already when after 5-0 we still give chance to ole.  biggrin.gif now just enjoy tiktok memes of maguire every match
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Maguire compilation videos are getting longer and longer and they are being monetised and updated weekly lmfao
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Maguire indirectly say he is good, that's why managers keep playing him hahahha
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force HM to accept newcastle grand arab plan
that is the only way to get high bidder/someone that can pay hm wages
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I'm starting to think he has a high non starting wage. Imagine the club need to pay him 500k for every game he don't start.
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 20 2022, 12:18 PM)
I'm starting to think he has a high non starting wage. Imagine the club need to pay him 500k for every game he don't start.
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ten hag likes ball playing defender
but maguire passing is so bad..hard and inaccurate passes
2 games in a row, HM passes caused a goal
i think only newcastle can pay his wages as surely no elite clubs will want hm (expensive price/salary)
if can sell hm for 20m is an achievement
ole make things hard by straight giving maguire the armband
among worst decisions by ole
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guys .. i know there are some who really hate Jose Mourinho ..but if you look back at what he said, this is the result of "football heritage"

park the bus or not, during his time, he just want results no matter what. and he did it with 3 throphies in 2 seasons. he dont have the chance to rebuild so he went with result oriented approach according to the players he has.

"football heritage"

and right now, after got humiliated by klopp, ralf rangnick with his awesome analysis talk show mentioned again about "football heritage" exactly like what jose highlighted years ago. rangnick did mention about klopp 1st season was similar to what man utd is experiencing now, "football heritage".. inherits a shit team, rebuild 6 years into what they have now. from 1st to 4th become champions with less funds .. 4 years ..

looking back .. this is not just glazerrs , but murtuogh has to go. fletcher has to go, replace with rangnick as DoF and rebuild with ten Hag, backed this guy up .. and let the real footballer do the rebuild

if not, if the same guy still in that critical position, with the same transfer policy huge wages like bruno, maguire, i think ten Hag will be sacked in the 3rd yr .. same policy, same shit players, not able to sell the shit players, not able to sign good players, no trophies, fail to rebuild, mid-table with huge wages players rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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the core of the issues wont change... just like liverpool didnt chg their top mgmt when klopp took over... what they did was give klopp more power to control the in and out of the players and also footballing matters... not just keep them for the sake of commercial value... and also the stupidity of paying huges wages sesuka hati... our problem is all the players already give up fighting for the club especially our midfield section, imagine the shit captain is behind of u... whats the point of playing well when he will just let ppl pass thru him like thin air...
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Apr 20 2022, 12:23 PM)
ten hag likes ball playing defender
but maguire passing is so bad..hard and inaccurate passes
2 games in a row, HM passes caused a goal
i think only newcastle can pay his wages as surely no elite clubs will want hm (expensive price/salary)
if can sell hm for 20m is an achievement
ole make things hard by straight giving maguire the armband
among worst decisions by ole
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I think hard to get buyer for maguire la... Jus hope got ppl take him on loan je
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Apr 20 2022, 12:23 PM)
ten hag likes ball playing defender
but maguire passing is so bad..hard and inaccurate passes
2 games in a row, HM passes caused a goal
i think only newcastle can pay his wages as surely no elite clubs will want hm (expensive price/salary)
if can sell hm for 20m is an achievement
ole make things hard by straight giving maguire the armband
among worst decisions by ole
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Well, you better hope Ten Hag is able to convince the Glazers.

Liverpool had huge problems since 90s until FSG came along.
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Lol people shitting on Newcastle who is 17 points behind. Meanwhile, man utd is 20 points behind man city.

At least they scored 1 in Anfield.
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The results Newcastle have put on the board since he joined is nothing short of remarkable.

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Maguire is just part of a huge problem. It won’t change even with a new coach unless he’s given the authority to do what he think is best.
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every rumours keep saying ETH asked for this asked for that... we will see how our transfer window perform to see whether all these shits are real or not... even strong coaches like JM or LVG also cant get what they want... i doubt ETH can demand anything more from the board... lol
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every rumours keep saying ETH asked for this asked for that... we will see how our transfer window perform to see whether all these shits are real or not... even strong coaches like JM or LVG also cant get what they want... i doubt ETH can demand anything more from the board... lol
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The secret sauce to ETH is if he gets the support from the club at director level. ETH is a tracksuit coach who wants to be involved in training and not in negotitions with agents, etc. That is why DOF support is critical.
This is where Rangnick is coming in. Listen to his press conferences detailing everything wrong at United. He's opening the door to allow ETH to make the changes which he wants.

For reference, I'm dropping a clip of the post match conference after Liverpool. Listen to it. He's setting the stage for ETH.


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Maguire compilation videos are getting longer and longer and they are being monetised and updated weekly lmfao
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My tiktok sources still showing the latest matched one la. Compilation one need go yt dy cause too long liao. And england hoping to bring it home with fraud southgate that also praises this fella. Cant wait for wc this year
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I'm starting to think he has a high non starting wage. Imagine the club need to pay him 500k for every game he don't start.
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Is this even a thing?
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 20 2022, 12:54 PM)
every rumours keep saying ETH asked for this asked for that... we will see how our transfer window perform to see whether all these shits are real or not... even strong coaches like JM or LVG also cant get what they want... i doubt ETH can demand anything more from the board... lol
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Lvg and jm is more recent managers after saf. After that we can see the damage and how far behind we are frm other teams in terms of results. And also the board did backed ole financially. But he obviously not up for the job
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Is this even a thing?
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Naive for me to think we can do an upset. Wasted 90 mins on the match. Beating boys performance. Even Burnley can do better vs pool. We are like btm team fighting top team. Wth.

Been patient enough to give rr time. can officially say rr is a scam. Maybe he excel in consultant role but not a manager. Not impressed with his press conference analysis. Fans also know apa problem la. Manager is to solve problem since he is on the seat that has power. Not point root cause problem, then not my fault. Ini consultant job.

Want tukar whole team only can produce result? Its like saying, its not my fault. Its the 10 other players fault, they can't implement my sure win heavy metal football. Without heavy metal, I can't even conjure a decent performance.

Players are a mess, but I agree rr share the same responsibilities. He is the one select starting 11. I don't believe those contract must play conspiracy. If there is, that is the root that must cut off.

Give tuchel, conte or even jm manage, dun think we will play that bad.

Only ddg, sancho, hannibal shows some heart in the game. Rasford has lost in wild

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 20 2022, 01:03 PM)
Lvg and jm is more recent managers after saf. After that we can see the damage and how far behind we are frm other teams in terms of results. And also the board did backed ole financially. But he obviously not up for the job
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yea... but when selling deadwoods, i dont think the board are doing well... force ole to telan those players and also use them when board say i cant nego... just like that... this season additions supposed to make our season better... but in the end... all are shit when we cant get a proper CDM.. u got varane, ronaldo and sancho this season... its not a bad transfer window... but somehow this season our performance are utterly shit... lol
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Apr 20 2022, 01:28 PM)
Naive for me to think we can do an upset. Wasted 90 mins on the match. Beating boys performance. Even Burnley can do better vs pool. We are like btm team fighting top team. Wth.

Been patient enough to give rr time. can officially say rr is a scam. Maybe he excel in consultant role but not a manager. Not impressed with his press conference analysis. Fans also know apa problem la. Manager is to solve problem since he is on the seat that has power. Not point root cause problem, then not my fault. Ini consultant job.

Want tukar whole team only can produce result? Its like saying, its not my fault. Its the 10 other players fault, they can't implement my sure win heavy metal football. Without heavy metal, I can't even conjure a decent performance.

Players are a mess, but I agree rr share the same responsibilities. He is the one select starting 11. I don't believe those contract must play conspiracy. If there is, that is the root that must cut off.

Give tuchel, conte or even jm manage, dun think we will play that bad.

Only ddg, sancho, hannibal shows some heart in the game. Rasford has lost in wild
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even norwich match we also almost cant win... lol u wanna upset liverpool? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif didnt watch any match since we gt dumped out of UCL.... waste of time to watch and waste of space these bunch of players.... the problem with RR now is he cant make the players happy like ole time... difference between temporary manager...
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 20 2022, 12:59 PM)
The secret sauce to ETH is if he gets the support from the club at director level. ETH is a tracksuit coach who wants to be involved in training and not in negotitions with agents, etc. That is why DOF support is critical.
This is where Rangnick is coming in. Listen to his press conferences detailing everything wrong at United. He's opening the door to allow ETH to make the changes which he wants.

For reference, I'm dropping a clip of the post match conference after Liverpool. Listen to it. He's setting the stage for ETH.


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i'm also wondering whether RR have any say after he take over his consultant role... lol... or all of them are just puppet to the glazers and the top mgmt... this club is too mess up for me to feel positive now... i am looking at a 30 years epl trophyless era here.... and it could be more if we are not doing financially well without kayu as the CEO now....
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Ralf Rangnick confirms plans of Man United revolution in the summer: “There will be a rebuild here. Six, seven, maybe TEN new players will come”.

Ten please lol
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 20 2022, 02:02 PM)
Ralf Rangnick confirms plans of Man United revolution in the summer: “There will be a rebuild here. Six, seven, maybe TEN new players will come”.

Ten please lol
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i can take 6... if that means maguire never wears the red shirt again... and stop playing rashford because he is made in manchester. he had his time. 300 apps but nothing much improved compared to welbeck except he has time.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 20 2022, 01:35 PM)
yea... but when selling deadwoods, i dont think the board are doing well... force ole to telan those players and also use them when board say i cant nego... just like that... this season additions supposed to make our season better... but in the end... all are shit when we cant get a proper CDM.. u got varane, ronaldo and sancho this season... its not a bad transfer window... but somehow this season our performance are utterly shit... lol
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dont need sell a lot liao this window. just make sure maguire is sold only.. this captain exposing own teammates when he is already not contributing to the team. the rest are running down the contracts anyway.. just dont offer stupid wages
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 20 2022, 02:08 PM)
dont need sell a lot liao this window. just make sure maguire is sold only.. this captain exposing own teammates when he is already not contributing to the team. the rest are running down the contracts anyway.. just dont offer stupid wages
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hopefully not... already sick of this team performance... ppl semua tukar coach ada honeymoon period... we tukar macam tak tukar je... lol... maguire cant sell we also cant do anything yet... hopefully he can rot in bench during ETH era... and hopefully get some one more athletic as CB not another fridge... frankly speaking... lindelof still gt quality in his passing... although defensively as bad as HM... but i will rather keep lindelof as back up CB
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 20 2022, 02:07 PM)
i can take 6... if that means maguire never wears the red shirt again... and stop playing rashford because he is made in manchester. he had his time. 300 apps but nothing much improved compared to welbeck except he has time.
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2 cb
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Good enough...

But i wish it was

2 cb
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 20 2022, 02:02 PM)
Ralf Rangnick confirms plans of Man United revolution in the summer: “There will be a rebuild here. Six, seven, maybe TEN new players will come”.

Ten please lol
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i hope for 10 then.

those who need to go would be maguire, jones, awb, bailly, matic, pogba, fred, mctom, martial, rashford, lingard, cavani... but wonder if anyone wants them or not in the market??

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QUOTE(reddevils500 @ Apr 20 2022, 02:25 PM)
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From Champion style to San Marino style. Thanks Ole.
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like this ur signature need change liao..
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 20 2022, 02:02 PM)
Ralf Rangnick confirms plans of Man United revolution in the summer: “There will be a rebuild here. Six, seven, maybe TEN new players will come”.

Ten please lol
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hmmm..RR ready to offload Lingard in Dec
But board blocked it....
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hmmm..RR ready to offload Lingard in Dec
But board blocked it....
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Now lingard goes for free. Noob board
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 20 2022, 02:13 PM)
hopefully not... already sick of this team performance... ppl semua tukar coach ada honeymoon period... we tukar macam tak tukar je... lol... maguire cant sell we also cant do anything yet... hopefully he can rot in bench during ETH era... and hopefully get some one more athletic as CB not another fridge... frankly speaking... lindelof still gt quality in his passing... although defensively as bad as HM... but i will rather keep lindelof as back up CB
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athletic cb we got bailley - dumb actions at times but not football dumb like maguire.

maguire shouldnt stay in the team not even as reserves. already done damage to the team morale i believe. how can i go attack when dumb teammate like this do silly mistakes. p/s captain of the team.

lindelof has always been victim of media and victim of maguire. he can definitely be the ball playing cb for ten hag. depends on how ten hag set up the team i guess. or lindelof can be the daley blind of ten hag since he can play ball.

rashford - can concentrate his charity work. we got elanga and greenwood if still not deleted by the media.


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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 20 2022, 02:39 PM)
Now lingard goes for free. Noob board
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based on this, will not be a surprise that the board/glazers blocked some players from leaving..let them rotten and demoralising the team
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hmmm..RR ready to offload Lingard in Dec
But board blocked it....
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Not forgetting the Board blocked any incomings as well in Jan.
We need 10 players because....TEN Hag. Ten is the way to go.

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Relax la. Already expected this yesterday so I purposely didn't watch and layan Netflix until sahur.

Anyway, RR exposing the team is really good.

Keano speechless and can't defend Maguire anymore. LOL.

Gary's angry but still doesn't want to throw Maguire under the bus, keep on emphasizing players undermining the manager.

So nice to see the whole club is lit on fire.


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another thing, why the hell RR maintain maguire as captain? tukar je la
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Apr 20 2022, 03:41 PM)
Relax la. Already expected this yesterday so I purposely didn't watch and layan Netflix until sahur.

Anyway, RR exposing the team is really good.

Keano speechless and can't defend Maguire anymore. LOL.

Gary's angry but still doesn't want to throw Maguire under the bus, keep on emphasizing players undermining the manager.

So nice to see the whole club is lit on fire.
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Apr 20 2022, 03:42 PM)
another thing, why the hell RR maintain maguire as captain? tukar je la
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English pressure

Biar kalah, Tapi Janji adat dimartabatkan

English clubs must have an English captain lel
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Not forgetting the Board blocked any incomings as well in Jan.
We need 10 players because....TEN Hag. Ten is the way to go.
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If the board still treats MU as a business first and football club second, even if the manager is Thousand Hag also no use.

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another thing, why the hell RR maintain maguire as captain? tukar je la
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It is either there is the "rumored" clause in his contract.

Or he is just doing it to break the media protection on Maguire by exposing him each time.
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Liv still in 4 competitions, yet they have 0 injuries currently
United in 1, with 7 injuries

United medical team should be upgraded as well..
Back in LVG time the was like 20+ simultaneous injuries in one season if im not mistaken..
Lukaku went to Italy and been told that he is allergic to certain things in his diet by Inter medical team, now he's not fat like he used to be at United..
Last time Pogba have to go out to get his own surgery after playing with a fractured bone that floating around in his foot, United medical team did 2 scans and failed to detect it in the 1st place..

The fact that Zlatan never used United medical team service says it all.. they are in dire need of an upgraded

but this medical team manage to keep Maguire free of injuries 3 seasons back to back though laugh.gif
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 20 2022, 04:32 PM)
Liv still in 4 competitions, yet they have 0 injuries currently
United in 1, with 7 injuries

United medical team should be upgraded as well..
Back in LVG time the was like 20+ simultaneous injuries in one season if im not mistaken..
Lukaku went to Italy and been told that he is allergic to certain things in his diet by Inter medical team, now he's not fat like he used to be at United..
Last time Pogba have to go out to get his own surgery after playing with a fractured bone that floating around in his foot, United medical team did 2 scans and failed to detect it in the 1st place..

The fact that Zlatan never used United medical team service says it all.. they are in dire need of an upgraded

but this medical team manage to keep Maguire free of injuries 3 seasons back to back though  laugh.gif
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seeings his video in england training and his on the pitch effort can understand why he hardly gets injured despite having a huge body.  innocent.gif
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If you don't run, you reduce the risk of getting injured.
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problem is he will injured his teammates... tongue.gif tongue.gif .. he is the undisputed spy in our squad... and happens to be the captain devil.gif devil.gif
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seeings his video in england training and his on the pitch effort can understand why he hardly gets injured despite having a huge body.  innocent.gif
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well if he can play smartly like ferdinand then still ok... but wad the heck, he is even worse than Silvestre or any flopped hard CB we had in the past... lol ... recovery slow, first touch lousy, passing lagi pundek... header clearance je one thing he is pandai but that also provided he din miss out the player he should have defend... not hug his own teammate... lol
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 20 2022, 05:40 PM)
well if he can play smartly like ferdinand then still ok... but wad the heck, he is even worse than Silvestre or any flopped hard CB we had in the past... lol ... recovery slow, first touch lousy, passing lagi pundek... header clearance je one thing he is pandai but that also provided he din miss out the player he should have defend... not hug his own teammate... lol
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rashford - can concentrate his charity work. we got elanga and greenwood if still not deleted by the media.
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Rashford need proper guidance. He is very good before become mr mbe
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 20 2022, 01:38 PM)
even norwich match we also almost cant win... lol u wanna upset liverpool?  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  didnt watch any match since we gt dumped out of UCL.... waste of time to watch and waste of space these bunch of players.... the problem with RR now is he cant make the players happy like ole time... difference between temporary manager...
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I expect lose but itchy want support. If you watch, your blood boil. Kena game whole match. Its not even pool vs Burnley performance. We are like championship team or worse.

Its a game where you feel anytime can kena belasah more than 8 goals

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post Apr 20 2022, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Apr 20 2022, 05:54 PM)
Rashford need proper guidance. He is very good before become mr mbe
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not really.. Rashford was good in counter attacking positions..
when a through ball in front of him, chasing the ball.. that is when he is the most dangerous, because of his blazing pace..
the second dangerous thing he got in his locker is cutting in at the edge of the box followed by a powerful shot..

his first touch was 50-50 ok back then, the same now.. his dribbling was nowhere near good enough to be threat..
his decision making basically the same.. his range of passing was never a threat, the accuracy was not up there either..

maybe just maybe he lost his finishing sharpness.. thats it
he was too overhyped during Ole time.. that was the problem

the fact is, the most successful and best performance Rashford produced was coming off from the bench..

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post Apr 20 2022, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 20 2022, 06:21 PM)
not really.. Rashford was good in counter attacking positions..
when a through ball in front of him, chasing the ball.. that is when he is the most dangerous, because of his blazing pace..
the second dangerous thing he got in his locker is cutting in at the edge of the box followed by a powerful shot..

his first touch was 50-50 ok back then, the same now.. his dribbling was nowhere near good enough to be threat..
his decision making basically the same.. his range of passing was never a threat, the accuracy was not up there either..

maybe just maybe he lost his finishing sharpness.. thats it
he was too overhyped during Ole time.. that was the problem

the fact is, the most successful and best performance Rashford produced was coming off from the bench..
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well before fernandes came in, he is the only one carrying ole cacat team to top half of the table before mco... and bruno came in to be a pro when we playing without fans... with fans... he terus cacat dy... fear of crowd ini budak... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Apr 20 2022, 05:54 PM)
Rashford need proper guidance. He is very good before become mr mbe
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 20 2022, 06:21 PM)
not really.. Rashford was good in counter attacking positions..
when a through ball in front of him, chasing the ball.. that is when he is the most dangerous, because of his blazing pace..
the second dangerous thing he got in his locker is cutting in at the edge of the box followed by a powerful shot..

his first touch was 50-50 ok back then, the same now.. his dribbling was nowhere near good enough to be threat..
his decision making basically the same.. his range of passing was never a threat, the accuracy was not up there either..

maybe just maybe he lost his finishing sharpness.. thats it
he was too overhyped during Ole time.. that was the problem

the fact is, the most successful and best performance Rashford produced was coming off from the bench..
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 20 2022, 06:49 PM)
well before fernandes came in, he is the only one carrying ole cacat team to top half of the table before mco... and bruno came in to be a pro when we playing without fans... with fans... he terus cacat dy... fear of crowd ini budak...  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Rashford also had a subtle change in the positions he was used in.

During Mou's time, he was used in a counter attacking inside forward position. His pace and dribbling excelled here on the counter with the forwards disrupting the ceenterbacks to create space for Rashford. He did not need to rely too much on decision-making.

Under Ole, somehow he was led to believe that Rashford was a number 9 and could play as such. Against most teams sitting deep, Rashford simply had no space and didn't possess the striker positioning that Greenwood seems to have. So he flounders now between a weird number 9/10 role. Check out his recent interviews, Rashford views himself as a number 9 which is not a position he excels in yet.

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 20 2022, 04:32 PM)
Liv still in 4 competitions, yet they have 0 injuries currently
United in 1, with 7 injuries

United medical team should be upgraded as well..
Back in LVG time the was like 20+ simultaneous injuries in one season if im not mistaken..
Lukaku went to Italy and been told that he is allergic to certain things in his diet by Inter medical team, now he's not fat like he used to be at United..
Last time Pogba have to go out to get his own surgery after playing with a fractured bone that floating around in his foot, United medical team did 2 scans and failed to detect it in the 1st place..

The fact that Zlatan never used United medical team service says it all.. they are in dire need of an upgraded

but this medical team manage to keep Maguire free of injuries 3 seasons back to back though  laugh.gif
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hard for maguire to get injured, he is always far away from any danger on the pitch🤣

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 20 2022, 09:06 AM)
wait, I'm thinking now, by his logic, Norwich, Burnley, Watford CB starting 11 all also world class since they start every damn match? Hmmm confused.gif rclxub.gif icon_rolleyes.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Apr 20 2022, 01:28 PM)
Naive for me to think we can do an upset. Wasted 90 mins on the match. Beating boys performance. Even Burnley can do better vs pool. We are like btm team fighting top team. Wth.

Been patient enough to give rr time. can officially say rr is a scam. Maybe he excel in consultant role but not a manager. Not impressed with his press conference analysis. Fans also know apa problem la. Manager is to solve problem since he is on the seat that has power. Not point root cause problem, then not my fault. Ini consultant job.

Want tukar whole team only can produce result? Its like saying, its not my fault. Its the 10 other players fault, they can't implement my sure win heavy metal football. Without heavy metal, I can't even conjure a decent performance.

Players are a mess, but I agree rr share the same responsibilities. He is the one select starting 11. I don't believe those contract must play conspiracy. If there is, that is the root that must cut off.

Give tuchel, conte or even jm manage, dun think we will play that bad.

Only ddg, sancho, hannibal shows some heart in the game. Rasford has lost in wild
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not sure why no one agreed with you on this. The players are mostly at fault, but it was Ralf Rangnick that selected this terrible team to play out his strategy. And his strategy clearly does NOT work. I totally agree with you, when you said that tukar whole team only can win is actually a poor manager. And Ralf is a poor manager at Manchester United. Ronaldo's individual brilliance saved Ralf's ass in both the Tottenham game and Norwich game.
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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Apr 20 2022, 10:19 PM)
not sure why no one agreed with you on this. The players are mostly at fault, but it was Ralf Rangnick that selected this terrible team to play out his strategy. And his strategy clearly does NOT work. I totally agree with you, when you said that tukar whole team only can win is actually a poor manager. And Ralf is a poor manager at Manchester United. Ronaldo's individual brilliance saved Ralf's ass in both the Tottenham game and Norwich game.
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Who else is he going to pick tho? McFred arent fit, Ronaldo absent for obvious reason, no STs since Cavani only shows up for international break, Rashford being off form...
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Apr 20 2022, 10:23 PM)
Who else is he going to pick tho? McFred arent fit, Ronaldo absent for obvious reason, no STs since Cavani only shows up for international break, Rashford being off form...
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reserves, youth squad also can. Not saying put all young ciku but mix around, instead of fielding same players with same tactics, expecting different outcome.
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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Apr 20 2022, 11:26 PM)
reserves, youth squad also can. Not saying put all young ciku but mix around, instead of fielding same players with same tactics, expecting different outcome.
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He cant do that if we are trying for Top 4. I think if Arsenal beat us, then we should play youth and all those players that have a long term future here, i dont want to see Pogba, Maguire etc.
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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Apr 20 2022, 10:19 PM)
not sure why no one agreed with you on this. The players are mostly at fault, but it was Ralf Rangnick that selected this terrible team to play out his strategy. And his strategy clearly does NOT work. I totally agree with you, when you said that tukar whole team only can win is actually a poor manager. And Ralf is a poor manager at Manchester United. Ronaldo's individual brilliance saved Ralf's ass in both the Tottenham game and Norwich game.
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frankly say.....
not sure if u watch all the LIVE game for this season before n after rangnick appointment....
manager MIGHT be is one of the problem but he only here for few month + no player bring in for his playstyle.... cant blame much on him if u ask me....

but the current player in the squad are jz hard to bear watching them playing.....
not sure is they dont understand the formation o playstyle o tactic.....
totally like headless chicken running around + some ego dribbling while keep missing the ball + miss passess....
what make it more worst, they seem dont even wan to run extra yard to help cover for other player....like ur miss, your problem....
they dont even play as team...... dont even mention mindset...

10might be too much but i expect at least half of the squad(5-6/starting 11) need to change....
keep expecting individual brilliant? yeah against lower group team maybe workable....
but against big team, totally joke.....

comparing arsenal n tottenham, yeah sometime they screw up big time but at least they play together as a team and formation....
but with our current team, it worst than "national team" that only meet up during call up.....
they totally like stranger to each other.....

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Ronaldo is back at training today. We are so bad that we need our hero back while he is still mourning the loss of his child.
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oh chief scouts also left. let the rebuild begin!

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