the team ball movement n passing are so terrible.....
really wonder what they doing in training.....
like totally no idea what to do with/without the ball.....
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Apr 9 2022, 08:12 PM
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the team ball movement n passing are so terrible.....
really wonder what they doing in training..... like totally no idea what to do with/without the ball..... |
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Apr 9 2022, 09:25 PM
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nice.....
give a wake up call to the board..... the current squad is just a joke no matter who is the manager..... there are no "team" at all..... |
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Apr 16 2022, 12:35 PM
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cant wait for the season to end....
the current player + squad are unbearable... interesting to see what the new manager will do to current squad..... will be interesting if the new manager dare to boot the big player.... some jz deserve the boot.......underserve to start at all..... |
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Apr 20 2022, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Apr 20 2022, 10:19 PM) not sure why no one agreed with you on this. The players are mostly at fault, but it was Ralf Rangnick that selected this terrible team to play out his strategy. And his strategy clearly does NOT work. I totally agree with you, when you said that tukar whole team only can win is actually a poor manager. And Ralf is a poor manager at Manchester United. Ronaldo's individual brilliance saved Ralf's ass in both the Tottenham game and Norwich game. frankly say.....not sure if u watch all the LIVE game for this season before n after rangnick appointment.... manager MIGHT be is one of the problem but he only here for few month + no player bring in for his playstyle.... cant blame much on him if u ask me.... but the current player in the squad are jz hard to bear watching them playing..... not sure is they dont understand the formation o playstyle o tactic..... totally like headless chicken running around + some ego dribbling while keep missing the ball + miss passess.... what make it more worst, they seem dont even wan to run extra yard to help cover for other player....like ur miss, your problem.... they dont even play as team...... dont even mention mindset... 10might be too much but i expect at least half of the squad(5-6/starting 11) need to change.... keep expecting individual brilliant? yeah against lower group team maybe workable.... but against big team, totally joke..... comparing arsenal n tottenham, yeah sometime they screw up big time but at least they play together as a team and formation.... but with our current team, it worst than "national team" that only meet up during call up..... they totally like stranger to each other..... |
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Apr 21 2022, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 21 2022, 07:41 AM) haha...it hard to point the finger on certain player since the team is playing so bad.... are u hinted better do ntg than trying to do something? as u can see, he try to open the play to the side....but yeah miss pass.... but some are the player not ready to sprint when he having the ball... there are no "forward run" play mindset on most of the squad....i wonder why.... try making run to empty space to create more space for passer.... but normally the team like to play around crowded space n end up missing the ball.... during a short video, can see so many player jogger around.... plus bissaka are jz as bad as u can see in the video.... no backup when fernandez under pressure near the right side n back off then it is 2 on 1 on liverpool half... i give up watching the games lately..... no expectation at all.... |
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Apr 22 2022, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 21 2022, 04:31 PM) this kind of gameplay from him is happening every week.. not just this match yeah...i agree that he did try force thing up most of the time....look back against Norwich, its the same.. the game before, its the same.. its not better do nothing.. do better man.. no forward run? u gotta be kidding.. there are forward runs.. but the guy prefer to pass it to teammates that is surrounded.. everytime.. couldnt keep the ball for more than 1 min.. just hoof it every time whats with the pressing the keeper? leaving hole at the mid so that opponents midfield can do 3 vs 2 against us? 0:33 should just chip it to Lingard, but no now he decided to keep the ball a bit more while clearly 2 opp players coming on to press 0:38 now the best bet is to quick low pass to AWB so that he can pass it to Lindelof or clear the ball long, but no Magnifico wants to hold it a lil bit longer and pass it to opponent.. 0:51 Lingard and Rashford run successfully pull their defenders in leaving Dalot at the left wide open with lots of space, Magnifico decided its better to long ball to a teammate that is not superior in the air while he was heavily marked.. 0:57 Elanga pass to Magnifico and the kid decided to hold his run when he saw Liv player ready to cut him off in front of him, Magnifico decided to force it instead.. cant he tell that the Liv player already read it before he pass it? Elanga certainly can, the kid know he could not beat the guy too.. 1:31 Pass back to AWB > through ball to Rashford is way better than long ball to the middle for Elanga to battle against players that are taller and more superior in the air than him.. He is just not good enough.. common theme every single match, always trying to force things.. while ignoring simple thing.. signs of a mediocre midfielder.. Get rid, lots of better midfielders out there.. but i still think he among the player that can keep for the team.... QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 21 2022, 07:40 PM) i only excited during JM signed.....didnt like LVG at all.....dont like his playstyle no matter country/club... OLE is non proven....cant blame him even he failed.....the only thing i hate about OLE is keep starting the player who shouldnt play... RR? poor him have to inherit bunch of not his style play + didnt let him get any signing....it a joke to expect miracle from RR to get magic from the bunch of player who get OLE sacked... i did not expect Erik to success to get back the team to glory.... but at least i dont want a bunch of player who look like stranger to each other..... hopefully see some improvement to make me have the urge to see the LIVE match again.... i dont mind losing....but at least i wan see a group of player that play for the team n much team play/strategy.... what i really excited for now is for the season to end to see which player that gonna come in and get boot during the transfer window... |
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Apr 23 2022, 09:04 PM
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better 2nd half compare to first....
losing but more entertaining... yeah.... bruno form is bad at the moment.... wonder why let him take penalty instead of ronaldo who full of confidence at the moment... This post has been edited by Darren: Apr 23 2022, 09:05 PM |
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Apr 23 2022, 09:15 PM
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nice intend n run from lingard....
good try instead of keep waiting n standing still..... |
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Apr 23 2022, 09:40 PM
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even we lose the game, i enjoy this game more than others games that we losing/winning....
bruno n rashford form have been terrible this season... sorry to say, why dont RR put more reserve team/U19 on the sub list? it almost already over for top4....might as well give change for younger player than those leaving/free agent? |
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Apr 23 2022, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 23 2022, 09:46 PM) Because if we had won this game, Top 4 would have been a possibility. actually out of mata/rashford/lingard, i rarely see rashford n lingard impact as sub this season....Now that we have lost this, time to send in the young players and let those players on the OUT list pack their holiday bags. most of the time both of them show much passion as starter than sub this season.... Mata do show much passion no matter as a sub/starter..... so better give chance to reserve team for some experience/chance for sub..... |
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Apr 23 2022, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 23 2022, 09:49 PM) yeah.....wish matic was more younger at the moment....despite his age, his performance are quite consistent.... only the stamina and speed hinder his performance... but i wonder why mctominay passing are better after matic taken off..... is it he more suitable under single DM compare to 2DM? |
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Apr 23 2022, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Apr 23 2022, 10:00 PM) Well, Vinicius JR has revived under Ancelotti. what exciting is what player ETH will keep and boot.....Dembele has revived under Xavi. Haller revived under ETH. Fred revived under Rangnick. (Somehow la). Some players actually still has some hope. For me Bruno and Rashford still worth a try. But really no need so fast to extend Rashford contract. If after half season also no improve, then better sell for $ to get more transfer fund. and what kind of player will he try to get during the window..... Since ETH are so loud saying that he given control over transfer, i would like to see what player will he trying to get.... RR are the most pity manager during man utd tenure after ferguson..... none of player purchase allow + let some player leave(who under longer contract) + keep those leaving/Free agent soon.... i dont blame him even he failed to achieve anything.... cant expect him to work magic with lesser player+same player who get OLE sacked.... hope he can work his magic during his consultancy tenure...... This post has been edited by Darren: Apr 23 2022, 10:21 PM and85rew liked this post
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Apr 24 2022, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Apr 23 2022, 11:37 PM) 1. let maguire to keep the captain armband well....2. quickly go gegenpressing shit even after talk to ole the moment he came 3. stick with mcfred 4. let donny to go without backup, instead of trust his ability this is a sign of rubbish manager. just admit ralf rangnick IS A TERRIBLE MANAGER. but , he is good in talking, planning, execution and coaching with according to his own setup. what make it depressing is that the incompetent board just hire him to cover their shit. imagine hiring an interim without power? its just that rangnick cant help himself to take this offer because of how big the club is. YES, IT IS STILL HIS FAULT A TERRIBLE LOUSY MANAGER but he might be awesome as director of football issue 1&3 is kinda funny yet it still happening.... it same with fellaini during JM tenure.... everyone expecting fellaini will be boot but JM quite happy with him.... i dont mind man utd keep mctominay since he bigger size + stamina but why fred? issue2.... well every manager have their preferred playstyle.... surely every manager will tend to try use their most familiar playstyle o philosophy...... but he do give up on that after few games.... i dont think he have much authority in the team/squad due to his interim status..... issue4.... i wonder if he decide to let martial & VDB on loan or the board decided so..... the team are in mess but i think the board are even worst.... it easy to blame on the manager but for big and commercial club like man utd, i wonder how much power granted to RR for final say well....sometime some changes o overhaul do need time and authority granted for make big changes.... i wonder who in the board are supporting RR since he dont given any player of his choices..... during Klopp first season, he almost get booted inherit the previous squad+only manage get few player of his choice.... why do you expect miracle from RR with same bunch of player? doesnt make sense.... my only wish is to see more entertaining and exciting games but at the same time i dont think man utd will win anything in these few year..... winning is not the only way to enjoy the soccer games though.....at least for me..... it a bonus if your supporting team winning a title but dont hate them when they doesnt..... jz like this match vs arsenal.....it entertaning even though we lose.... but at least i enjoy watching the games and excited during the game.... + hate to see current squad player who doesnt make more run to create room for passing + jogger mindset + no idea with the formation during def/attack (so many misspass) + tend to pass to player nearby even they sandwich by opponent (as long as not they not the main cause losing the ball) + tend to stand still waiting for pass/relay which they can make forward run to create more space for passing/pull out opponent defense... team like west ham/leicester/arsenal, they play much better as a team n more entertaining even they doesnt get the result.... but at least we can feel excited n enjoying the game....yeah we might feel frustrated when the team lose.... at least i dont feel i wasted my time watching the game..... |
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Apr 24 2022, 12:39 AM
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May 8 2022, 01:54 AM
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joker performance.....
too many buy man utd win tonight? so bookie wanna flip the boat? pity degea |
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May 8 2022, 01:59 AM
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the worst thing is the MF totally out of organize....
doesnt link with Def o FW at all.... totally speechless |
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May 8 2022, 02:03 AM
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May 8 2022, 02:05 AM
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May 8 2022, 02:11 AM
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QUOTE(Purpleheaven @ May 8 2022, 02:07 AM) I think RR is shit anyway. I thought he's a no nonsense coach that just cant make a team full of diva work. But he just let lindelof stay on the field when it's obvious that lindelof dont want to play anymore. He just gave him and walked away even before the 3rd goal went in. No manager will keep a player like that on the field. if possible, i think he will want sub the whole team except de gea.....lolx..... really smtg wrong with the team..... not sure is the dressing room is seperate o what.... but really no TEAM at all in this team..... |
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ May 21 2022, 11:26 PM) 2 question i dont mind result as long as their game play improved....How long u guys gonna give Ten Hag? How long do u think the stupid board gonna give Ten Hag? For me, I think if Ole, keep losing 3, 4, 5 goals also can be given 3 years, Ten Hag shud be also given at least 3 years. Use Klopp as an example, I don't mind we getting no.8 next season. The current problem of this club is just too big and too broad. U ask Klopp, Guardiola, or Ancelotti come, they also need 3 years. Some more no guarantee. However will fans have that patient to wait another 3 years before "Ten Hag out"? I think the important thing is the tactics shown by Ten Hag. If the tactics is there, just that certain players unable to cope, then fans will have more patient. if ur game play improve, it matter of time the result will come.... i jz hate jogger + non team play at all from the current squad.... too individualistic + jogger.....dont wanna track back yet dont even wanna make forward run/sprint when own player having the ball except ronaldo.... too static and predictable.... some fan will expect instant result improvement but for me, i more happy to see change of team play n attitude among the squad.... u cant deny the talent in the squad is there..... but their mindset...playstyle....jogger.....so many empty place for opponent to explore...dominated by opponent on MF... jz no idea how could it become so bad on the pitch.... it so bad until u feel man utd dont even play with front line....only GK+DEF+MF.....FW dont even exist.... |
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