We judge managers when they are put in a position to be judged. Rangnick is not put in a position to be judged because he's not been given the tools as a manager. The club is trying to get to the end of the season.
That is why I don't pass judgement on RR personally.

- Rangnick is playing with a weaker set of players than Ole. Club allowed some of them to go in Dec like Martial and Donny without replacing them. Squad is diluted.
- Rangnick was not allowed to recruit a single player by the club in Jan despite players leaving and the team needing a CDM.
- Rangnick was announced as only a temp manager, giving the players the impression he carried no authority.
- Players can go on leave without informing Rangnick because they can get Murtough's approval directly.
- Rangnick tried to institute a gegenpressing 4-2-2-2 but the lack of workrate from certain players means it did not work. Rangnick had to adjust to the players instead because players refused to follow instructions.
- For the Liverpool game, United were missing our best defender Varane. Missing McTominay and Fred in midfield which Matic for the first time this season had to play 90 minutes. And missing our two best forwards in Ronaldo and Cavani. Pogba didn't want to be part of the game after 5 minutes and left.

The loss to Liverpool is expected.
This is a hole dug by the players, and compounded by the decision of the club to abandon the season by not getting reinforcements in Jan. Those to me are the two main factors. Rangnick does not feature.

i gonna bet that the kops gonna win all cup this season..
damm that hurt .. ok back to our team, based on RR PC after the match
its look like some players dont follow his instruction

quite possibly he instructed the back 5 to not press and keep the line intact..
before 10 minutes in the captain decided to press leaving a gap and they scored..

many youtuber tactical analyst said this, dont know how true it is..

if its true then its funny as hell.. when told to press u dont wanna press, when told not to, u go and press..

Well LFC were lucky to beat Chelsea in the Carabao Cup, so i wouldnt brush CFC aside, City still have the advantage in PL. CL beats me, could be City or Liverpool.

midfield magnifico?

To illustrate the difference between how United is run and other clubs, let me use the case study below.

This team is a former PL winner who in recent years has fallen into decline. It is years since their last PL win and now are left with trying to hang with the big boys. In the latest rebuild, they have run into problems with certain players being out of sync with the manager. One of whom is the influential captain of the club and one of the highest paid members of the squad. He had cost the club a club record transfer fee. The dressing room is divided and on the pitch performance suffered. All eyes fell on the manager and the club on how the situation is handled.

This club is Arsenal.

Arteta basically froze Auba out of the squad until he could toe the line set by the manager. When this did not improve, the captaincy was taken off him. It ended when Arsenal made a decision to let Auba go on a free to Barcelona mid-season despite him being a club transfer fee record. Look at where Arsenal are today and their performances after Auba left. This is what it looks like when the club backs the manager. This is the club sending a message that the manager is more important to the club than any player.


So back to Manchester United. Does Manchester United's decisions reflect the manager being the top guy at the club, or does the club place the players above the manager?
Question is rhetorical.

Yeah, chief scout - and head of global scouting too. I will be very disappointed if a new one is quickly appointed without consulting with Rangnick, and the knowledge of the new manager, whoever he is.

Auba was stripped because he came back late without informing the club, he was flashy etc maybe not good for the atmosphere idk, but he did score goals for them just not really under Arteta. Now Auba is banging in goals for Barca and a great free signing he is for them.

Somebody has been listening to gary Neville's rants. Legit points tho

Thats why i believe freezing maguire off and getting him out of the club would expedite the rebuild process. Not a fan of him earlier and definitely not a fan of him now. But i must say im a fan of his tiktok videos where he plays like its parody video.

How can our attackers play well when they face maguire in training?

Well he is no different to this https://nwscdn.com/media/wysiwyg/menu/frz/Mannequin.jpg

Auba was a string of disciplinary issues. I think there was also a couple of team meetings where he was late and left out as it was sending the wrong message. When your captain can get away with things like that, it lowers the standard of expectation to others. Standards. Now there is a familiar word to United fans.

Arsenal bit the bullet and now both parties are much happier. Never doubted Auba's talent.

Can see signs of Rangnick trying to do the same at United now. Him naming players and managing exits before Ten Hag arrives.

I actually haven't listened to Gary's podcast not his commentary as he lost credibility with me as a pundit with his self admitted bias when Ole was there.
I prefer Simon Jordan. Go give it a listen.

haha...
it hard to point the finger on certain player since the team is playing so bad....
are u hinted better do ntg than trying to do something?
as u can see, he try to open the play to the side....but yeah miss pass....
but some are the player not ready to sprint when he having the ball...
there are no "forward run" play mindset on most of the squad....i wonder why....
try making run to empty space to create more space for passer....
but normally the team like to play around crowded space n end up missing the ball....

during a short video, can see so many player jogger around....
plus bissaka are jz as bad as u can see in the video....
no backup when fernandez under pressure near the right side n back off then it is 2 on 1 on liverpool half...

i give up watching the games lately.....
no expectation at all....

Alamak, arsenal win. Not that we are capable to catch though. Newcastle 6 win in a row.

Sebab many fanboys of the title father gengenpressing. All is players fault, board fault not his fault. Usually manager got sacked because he lost dressing room. No way a manager can implement a tactic if players don't listen. I think rr already lost the dressing room after few matches.

But if players don't listen, he keep play them? Whose fault? Contract conspiracy pulak. Maybe. But that's just a wild guess. He could have thrown the board under the bus if this is the case, but also puppet aje.

Maguire is out of is depth. Agree, no injured cause always far from player lol.

At the end result matters. Half a season is more than enough to turn up at least a good performance and lose to pool. How many matches we play good and win? 2-3 matches maybe. Plenty matches we play good for 1 half.

Ole got sacked because bad results. No complaint, rightly so. He got the job because string of wins. Rr cant get the permanent job because the result is no way good enough. Perhaps rr will get his result if maguire not shipping in free goal"s" almost every match.

The interim phase/rebuilding is a total failure cause we are where we are, no improvement after ole sacking. For me it got worse, it took my interest away from watching, remembering when we have matches. At least ole the fraud team make me watch until end of season.

Rebuilding all over again lol. Glazers paling suka. Buy another 3 years time

This post has been edited by IpohGuyz: Apr 21 2022, 09:51 AM

bye bye champions league

i think cant say RR lost the dressing room. he never had it. already before him coming in, news of players preference tell you who is the actual boss in the dressing room. and thanks ole for sugarcoating and covering these supposedly pro players in front of media. reminds me of all ole all smiles and its all good press conference. shows you the level and standards. dont forget RR is interim for 6 months to reach the season ends thats why no players bother to follow his rules. board is still in control where no players leave without their consent (lingard case 10m lost) and no players coming in without the new permanent managers say. so he has to use maguire (ole proud purchase) and the other english players.

and ole got sacked because of bad results. agreed. but is he sacked too late? yes both board and him are at fault. understanding his love for the club and this is the only big club that will offer him any managerial post in his time. so him clinging to the post as long as possible in understandable. should have been sacked before the 5-0 lfc game as he only back to back losses. after 5-0 still can go holiday and enjoy sweet time and continue to lose until top 4 is almost over mathematically then sacked. imo should have been sacked right after the europa final.

verdict for RR, i think we can only see his influence after ten hag comes in. if ten hag axes maguire immediately, i would say kudos to RR since this would be with the board's blessing since RR exposing maguire in a already write offseason. else we have to bear with this fraud for more seasons.

we would be relegated if not for ddg and ronaldo this season. the only 2 pl winners in the team for us.

Yes. I think rr more suitable as consultancy. Not manager material. That's why i say the interim period is disaster. Players don't listen or respect even before he comes in.

Respect is gained though. You got trophies as background then much much easier. This is where rr fail as manager. Getting ppl listen to you is basic manager job. Getting ppl die for you like zlatan claimed to jm is another lvl

If eth comes in, maguire still captain. I speechless

This post has been edited by IpohGuyz: Apr 21 2022, 10:19 AM

depends who is the player. respect is gained and mostly through trophy. so the decision to make the biggest job in team i.e. the captain to a relegation expert really is out of the world. got the job because of his transfer fee and passport.

not even sure who would want maguire in their team (mainly for local player quota purpose). is 8m too much?

like i posted here in february, already mentioned that the scouting system is being revamped. Them leaving has already been expected since then. There is another system in place for scouting similar to how RB sporting group is setup.

In the new setup commercial marketing value of players has been dropped by 3 levels which means that it will almost play no part in evaluating a players suitability.

Alot of things mentioned here are seriously quite laughable, what i would like to say is just enjoy the ride for this season and expect more big changes to announced soon. Another fan consultation session has been planned. What we are expecting is announcements on vision, targets for next season, owners commitment, players incoming and outgoing updates and stadium updates.

One thing you have to ask is why the main supporters group are so silent now and only fringe groups are making noise. Something is brewing, that's all i have to say.