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aaron1717
post Apr 11 2022, 11:32 AM

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if only RR just come in and make the players happy again like ole time... no need change what formation strategy or wad... then he wouldnt get bash so much... kesian him also... lol...

wan this bunch of players to be pressing machine is impossible... other than first match... there are no successful pressing from then on... all press like headless chicken... this team can only play counter attack je la... how to press with a midfield that cant even pass properly... stupid players...
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post Apr 11 2022, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Apr 11 2022, 11:45 AM)
The thing is that even Ole's style was pressing high at first, then later onwards the players are no longer pressing. For me i only wanted RR for the club building aspect, and i really hope they involve him as much as possible for that (with reports claiming that it isnt the case). Clean slate with the new manager, sell whoever that doesnt fit the new philosophy of the club.
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the problem is none of the players are actually listening to instructions... when shit comes down... they will revert to their old style... lol.... the problem is always our midfield lose control... u lose control of that, u basically lose more than half of the battle... which is always the case... ole time, players happy to come back in a losing game for him... for RR... u can see, even after we are losing, the urgency to score back is not there... which can see how much player reli 'trust' him... lol
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post Apr 11 2022, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Apr 11 2022, 02:27 PM)
This is why the board need to support manager 100%. If manager wants to axe a player, the board need to support him regardless how famous the player is. The board need to tell the players, the manager is in charge! Otherwise, no players will listen to manager no matter who he is. If the board do not support the manager, the players will just play casually to get the manager sack and think it is not their fault. If the board want someone who listen to them only, just hire back Ole, I am dam sure we will see Utd in Championship soon.
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i feel under ole we wont be relegated, but will bcum long term mid table team... lol... as for the board will accept or not, hopefully our coming manager candidates can fight harder... we keep on keep all those prima donnas for their commercial value but no value in matches... full of high salary players throughout our first team... and none of them able to do shit... except maybe de gea...
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post Apr 11 2022, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 11 2022, 03:09 PM)
not sure... he got 1/11 right already... if he get 2 more maguire player.. can see relegation for real  biggrin.gif
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lol i wish to see, is it coming manager also will put maguire as the captain and all time first 11 player... maybe he reli did something in training that we cant see... lol
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post Apr 12 2022, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 12 2022, 08:42 AM)
That's true.

Rangnick tried the 4-2-2-2 gegenpress but the players couldn't or wouldn't adapt. There was again the lack of effort and when you don't do the basic running in a gegenpress, it falls apart. Klopp would probably go get new players.
Rangnick can't. Rangnick can't buy a CDM he wants because Board opted not to and can't sell a player he doesn't in Lingard which got overruled by the Board again.

Club knows Rangnick is a temp. Players know.
Club management got themselves into this situation.

Imagine if Spurs do finish fourth above Arsenal and United. It's basically a point for Conte over the Board which didn't hire him.
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but players knew ole was temporary as well.. why they willing to play better football under him during this temporary tenure... thats the question here... but they dont do the same for RR... lol
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post Apr 13 2022, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 12 2022, 09:25 PM)
Because it was moving on from Mou's time as Mr Bad Guy which alienated some players. They were willing to go along with anyone. Plus there were no hardcore cliques yet. So Ole, who indulged his favourites was always Mr Good Guy.
Once Ole is gone, no more automatic selection and easy ride. Not surprised the players didn't like it. Free lunch is gone.
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lol still the same set of first 11 with ole in the end... same formation same first 11... same shit tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Apr 13 2022, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 13 2022, 12:12 PM)
same shit
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clear all the prima donnas out je... at least pogba the virus is sure getting out dy... next is maguire... the rest i leave it to ETH to decide...
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post Apr 18 2022, 09:26 AM

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Sucks.. gonna be another few years of rebuild... Added on maybe need 30 years like Liverpool soon
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post Apr 20 2022, 12:41 PM

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the core of the issues wont change... just like liverpool didnt chg their top mgmt when klopp took over... what they did was give klopp more power to control the in and out of the players and also footballing matters... not just keep them for the sake of commercial value... and also the stupidity of paying huges wages sesuka hati... our problem is all the players already give up fighting for the club especially our midfield section, imagine the shit captain is behind of u... whats the point of playing well when he will just let ppl pass thru him like thin air...
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post Apr 20 2022, 12:54 PM

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every rumours keep saying ETH asked for this asked for that... we will see how our transfer window perform to see whether all these shits are real or not... even strong coaches like JM or LVG also cant get what they want... i doubt ETH can demand anything more from the board... lol
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post Apr 20 2022, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 20 2022, 01:03 PM)
Lvg and jm is more recent managers after saf. After that we can see the damage and how far behind we are frm other teams in terms of results. And also the board did backed ole financially. But he obviously not up for the job
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yea... but when selling deadwoods, i dont think the board are doing well... force ole to telan those players and also use them when board say i cant nego... just like that... this season additions supposed to make our season better... but in the end... all are shit when we cant get a proper CDM.. u got varane, ronaldo and sancho this season... its not a bad transfer window... but somehow this season our performance are utterly shit... lol
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post Apr 20 2022, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Apr 20 2022, 01:28 PM)
Naive for me to think we can do an upset. Wasted 90 mins on the match. Beating boys performance. Even Burnley can do better vs pool. We are like btm team fighting top team. Wth.

Been patient enough to give rr time. can officially say rr is a scam. Maybe he excel in consultant role but not a manager. Not impressed with his press conference analysis. Fans also know apa problem la. Manager is to solve problem since he is on the seat that has power. Not point root cause problem, then not my fault. Ini consultant job.

Want tukar whole team only can produce result? Its like saying, its not my fault. Its the 10 other players fault, they can't implement my sure win heavy metal football. Without heavy metal, I can't even conjure a decent performance.

Players are a mess, but I agree rr share the same responsibilities. He is the one select starting 11. I don't believe those contract must play conspiracy. If there is, that is the root that must cut off.

Give tuchel, conte or even jm manage, dun think we will play that bad.

Only ddg, sancho, hannibal shows some heart in the game. Rasford has lost in wild
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even norwich match we also almost cant win... lol u wanna upset liverpool? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif didnt watch any match since we gt dumped out of UCL.... waste of time to watch and waste of space these bunch of players.... the problem with RR now is he cant make the players happy like ole time... difference between temporary manager...
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post Apr 20 2022, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 20 2022, 12:59 PM)
The secret sauce to ETH is if he gets the support from the club at director level. ETH is a tracksuit coach who wants to be involved in training and not in negotitions with agents, etc. That is why DOF support is critical.
This is where Rangnick is coming in. Listen to his press conferences detailing everything wrong at United. He's opening the door to allow ETH to make the changes which he wants.

For reference, I'm dropping a clip of the post match conference after Liverpool. Listen to it. He's setting the stage for ETH.


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i'm also wondering whether RR have any say after he take over his consultant role... lol... or all of them are just puppet to the glazers and the top mgmt... this club is too mess up for me to feel positive now... i am looking at a 30 years epl trophyless era here.... and it could be more if we are not doing financially well without kayu as the CEO now....
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post Apr 20 2022, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 20 2022, 02:08 PM)
dont need sell a lot liao this window. just make sure maguire is sold only.. this captain exposing own teammates when he is already not contributing to the team. the rest are running down the contracts anyway.. just dont offer stupid wages
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hopefully not... already sick of this team performance... ppl semua tukar coach ada honeymoon period... we tukar macam tak tukar je... lol... maguire cant sell we also cant do anything yet... hopefully he can rot in bench during ETH era... and hopefully get some one more athletic as CB not another fridge... frankly speaking... lindelof still gt quality in his passing... although defensively as bad as HM... but i will rather keep lindelof as back up CB
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post Apr 20 2022, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 20 2022, 04:43 PM)
If you don't run, you reduce the risk of getting injured.
#elite
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problem is he will injured his teammates... tongue.gif tongue.gif .. he is the undisputed spy in our squad... and happens to be the captain devil.gif devil.gif
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post Apr 20 2022, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 20 2022, 04:37 PM)
seeings his video in england training and his on the pitch effort can understand why he hardly gets injured despite having a huge body.  innocent.gif
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well if he can play smartly like ferdinand then still ok... but wad the heck, he is even worse than Silvestre or any flopped hard CB we had in the past... lol ... recovery slow, first touch lousy, passing lagi pundek... header clearance je one thing he is pandai but that also provided he din miss out the player he should have defend... not hug his own teammate... lol
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post Apr 20 2022, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 20 2022, 06:21 PM)
not really.. Rashford was good in counter attacking positions..
when a through ball in front of him, chasing the ball.. that is when he is the most dangerous, because of his blazing pace..
the second dangerous thing he got in his locker is cutting in at the edge of the box followed by a powerful shot..

his first touch was 50-50 ok back then, the same now.. his dribbling was nowhere near good enough to be threat..
his decision making basically the same.. his range of passing was never a threat, the accuracy was not up there either..

maybe just maybe he lost his finishing sharpness.. thats it
he was too overhyped during Ole time.. that was the problem

the fact is, the most successful and best performance Rashford produced was coming off from the bench..
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well before fernandes came in, he is the only one carrying ole cacat team to top half of the table before mco... and bruno came in to be a pro when we playing without fans... with fans... he terus cacat dy... fear of crowd ini budak... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Apr 21 2022, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Apr 20 2022, 11:26 PM)
reserves, youth squad also can. Not saying put all young ciku but mix around, instead of fielding same players with same tactics, expecting different outcome.
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lol, he did put in elanga most of the time... and if u have first team squad players still available, why pick more cikus unless you have massive injuries crisis like LVG time? confused.gif confused.gif
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post Apr 22 2022, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 22 2022, 08:47 AM)
I believe the Goalkeeping department will be untouched. We currently have De Gea, Henderson and Heaton. Even if Henderson goes, Heaton is able to come in. Third choice GK we can give opportunities to academy goalies.

Defence : I think we will see some changes, maybe a new CB and fullback. First name that springs to mind if De Ligt, who played for Ten Hag at Ajax before moving on.

Midfield : Biggest recruitment area. We are already missing a CDM. Pogba, Mata and Matic leaving. We will be recruiting a whole new midfield plus backups this summer.

Attack : I think this isn't as important as the midfield and defence. We still have Amad and Pellestri who we have never seen plus academy players like Hannibal knocking on the door. Maybe a new established number 9. But I think we should keep CR7 for another season and put the captaincy on him. It's the non-playing influence that is important. No more Good Vibes FC. We need standards that the players should be kept accountable to. CR7 will set those standards.
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a new no.9 plus keep CR7 will do it for now... the rest of the frontline, up to ETH on how to manage them... since ETH is good in reviving some dying talents... let him treat rashford and martial... lol... GW hopefully still not in jail by then
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post Apr 22 2022, 04:21 PM

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squad improved but strategy stagnant... same old shit le... all the managers tune their tactic.... ole didnt.... RR come in half way, no one give a f.... in the end... get suckier season despite with better players in... ppl already know how to walk thru our mcfred combo like they are thin air....

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