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post Jun 14 2010, 10:58 AM

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alexei, after using BHP Jaso-FB 2T for 2 weeks, the smokes is getting lesser, maybe my bike need some times to get used to it. smile.gif
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post Jun 14 2010, 06:25 PM

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ubuntu: thanks for the update, and i'm glad to hear that.
At least this confirms your 2T pump no problem, unlike my yamaha...

One of the reason I think, because when you top up the new 2T, there is still some of it along the 2T pipe to the pump... simple calculation would estimate ~50ml of it.

To burn off this amount of 2T needs ~10-15liters of petrol, roughly about 3 full tank... correct ah?
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post Jun 14 2010, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 14 2010, 06:25 PM)
ubuntu: thanks for the update, and i'm glad to hear that.
At least this confirms your 2T pump no problem, unlike my yamaha...

One of the reason I think, because when you top up the new 2T, there is still some of it along the 2T pipe to the pump... simple calculation would estimate ~50ml of it.

To burn off this amount of 2T needs ~10-15liters of petrol, roughly about 3 full tank... correct ah?
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Yes, I've pump 3 full tank for 2 weeks. But one thing I observed is that, my bike consume this new 2T quite fast, I just added some on it.
Oh ya, just now I went to Caltex, surprisingly I saw their semi-synthetic 2T engine oil is quite cheap, Jaso FC and ISO EGC, 1 liter for RM17, of course I had bought one. smile.gif
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post Jun 14 2010, 11:42 PM

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wow! sounds like a good deal... let me check out caltex tomorrow.
Btw, have your engine rebore before? If you wanna know how to adjust 2T, let me know.
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post Jun 15 2010, 02:33 PM

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I wanna ask

why some ppl punye kapchai so loud one? What they modified? unsure.gif
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post Jun 15 2010, 07:44 PM

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exhaust, racing cam...
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post Jun 15 2010, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 14 2010, 11:42 PM)
wow! sounds like a good deal... let me check out caltex tomorrow.
Btw, have your engine rebore before? If you wanna know how to adjust 2T, let me know.
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Nope, I didn't do any rebore. Emm... What do you think, should I adjust 2T? I never mod anything to my bike.
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post Jun 15 2010, 11:06 PM

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if that's the case, then no need. I was wondering since you say 2T finish fast... so I thought someone has make the 2T mix more for you.

Can you try measure how far a bottle of 2T?

Simple maths is based on 2T to petrol mix.
Normal ratio is 1:20...
That means 1 liter 2T can tahan 20 liter petrol and then estimate the distance from that.
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post Jun 16 2010, 12:35 AM

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I'm not sure whether this question has been asked.

Does Yamaha's YCLS helps in saving 2T? Any1 know how does the YCLS unit work?


Added on June 16, 2010, 1:21 am
QUOTE(ejoylovers @ May 18 2010, 05:36 AM)
ask u mention..
2 stroke cant ride for long journey..
u need to stop many time to cooldown the engine.
if u dont stop, it will JEM PANAS which mean ur motor slow suddenly..
when it happen u need to stop around half an hour to cooldown the engine..
furthermore,2 stroke cant highspeed for long time..

so,better choose 4stroke..
i know 2 stroke more pickup than 4stroke..
choice is in ur hand..
choose wisely my friend..
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I was riding a 125Z, been using it to travel back n forth Setapak and J.B., back n forth Setapak Sg. Petani, and tried J.B. to Sg. Petani n Sg. Petani to J.B. for nearly 5 times, I never even once switch-off the engine during the journey n I been taking along 2 key so tht I can open up my seat with the engine running to fill up the tank tongue.gif .

As much as possible I try to keep it running at 7,500 r.p.m. on 6th gear. I nvr even had any problem with the engine. No need piston ring change, no need korek belok, no need potong pipe or bla bla. But I had an incident, the gearbox went wrong when I was on the journey frm Setapak to Sg. Petani, it happened somewhere near the Ipoh Selatan Exit, fortunately I can still managed to ride it to the 1 of the bikeshops alon Jln. Kangsar. sweat.gif . So, left the bike there n took a bus lor, wtd? Those were the days 10 years back.

Odometer clocked 78,XXX when I surrendered it to my bro in law.

The bike has been using Shell VSX 2T since the 1st day I bought it (not bought by myself la, bought by papa mama or daddy mummy 1 lo, I was still at 2ndary 5, how to earn $$$$$) been using this 2T utill I passed it to my bro in law.


Added on June 16, 2010, 1:39 am
QUOTE(pengejar @ Apr 21 2010, 01:42 PM)
Hey, do Yamaha SRE and Lagenda 110 share same engine?
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100cc n 110cc respectively lo, ha ha

This post has been edited by J1@l_ l_l l\l: Jun 16 2010, 01:39 AM
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post Jun 16 2010, 08:19 AM

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YCLS? Not very sure... biggrin.gif
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post Jun 16 2010, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Jun 16 2010, 01:35 AM)
I'm not sure whether this question has been asked.

Does Yamaha's YCLS helps in saving 2T? Any1 know how does the YCLS unit work?


Added on June 16, 2010, 1:21 am
I was riding a 125Z, been using it to travel back n forth Setapak and J.B., back n forth Setapak Sg. Petani, and tried J.B. to Sg. Petani n Sg. Petani to J.B. for nearly 5 times, I never even once switch-off the engine during the journey n I been taking along 2 key so tht I can open up my seat with the engine running to fill up the tank  tongue.gif .

As much as possible I try to keep it running at 7,500 r.p.m. on 6th gear. I nvr even had any problem with the engine. No need piston ring change, no need korek belok, no need potong pipe or bla bla. But I had an incident, the gearbox went wrong when I was on the journey frm Setapak to Sg. Petani, it happened somewhere near the Ipoh Selatan Exit, fortunately I can still managed to ride it to the 1 of the bikeshops alon Jln. Kangsar. sweat.gif . So, left the bike there n took a bus lor, wtd? Those were the days 10 years back.

Odometer clocked 78,XXX when I surrendered it to my bro in law.

The bike has been using Shell VSX 2T since the 1st day I bought it (not bought by myself la, bought by papa mama or daddy mummy 1 lo, I was still at 2ndary 5, how to earn $$$$$) been using this 2T utill I passed it to my bro in law.


Added on June 16, 2010, 1:39 am

100cc n 110cc respectively lo, ha ha
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u r good bro.
Mine overheated just halfway from KL to mlk.
Bike use Suzuki Best
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post Jun 16 2010, 09:19 AM

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who own badass here?
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QUOTE(leinnz @ Jun 16 2010, 09:07 AM)
u r good bro.
Mine overheated just halfway from KL to mlk.
Bike use Suzuki Best
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I'm not gd. Juz fotunate I guess.

Overheated 1/2 way on the expressway ah? Kena Plus Ronda loh? doh.gif

My guess is so longs as U don't overev the engine for a long time, every engine eventhough 2-stroke engine should be able to travel long distance.

For a standard transmission ratio of 125Z, with the engine running at 7,500r.p.m. and 6th gear, mine can run at 120km/h +-5km/h as shown on the speedometer, I'm VERY sure 120km/h is not the true speed, the speedometer has at least 20% of positive error, means 2 sat tht the true speed of it would be ard 100km/h only instead of 120km/h. Positive error of the speedometer on many underbone bikes, I guess many hare should hv known abt this issue.

Tht is y I decreased the final drive ratio frm stock ratio, despite having poorer figure of ms^2, but it's more sensible for long distance riding, Vr talking abt having higher V but the engine can revs at lower speed.


Added on June 16, 2010, 5:14 pm
QUOTE(mydelsol @ Mar 15 2010, 09:19 AM)
Well Im in sales, so sometimes when i ride my bike, i get alot of miss calls,
so thats why I tot of using a bluetooth enabled helmet rclxms.gif
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I really salute U bro, notworthy.gif , claiming car allowance but ride motobike ah? I'm gonna tell Ur bozz....

But it's really is a gd idea, too many cars on the road today which contributes to global warming n in fact, many r driving a big size saloon, MPV, SUV, etc, but most of the time I only c 1 driver in the car.


Added on June 16, 2010, 5:32 pm
QUOTE(m@nster @ Sep 20 2009, 08:28 PM)
yep... too much but you know, taking Bfull license can already learn the power of big cc machine.. Learning with 750 cruiser does tell the power. If im not mistaken, kawa's 650 (2 cylinder) naked can only reach 200++ but the full fairing superbike (4 cylinder) like Zx-6 can go for 260++. check the specs first. Plus, the sound is gives more satisfaction especially when you pay A LOT. 2 cylinder n 4 cylinder have a different sound. Except for the Ducati's, they are the italian, they sounded like a ferrari. For example.. if you were riding the er-6 and got beaten by aprllia 125, mito, or worst, old TZM.. hehe.. didnt mean to gives a big talk, even i didnt have any superbike yet.. (but my Bfull ihave is for Harley Davidson).. Actually, if you want the exact answer on what you really need, go to retailer and talk to the salesman yourself. Ive did that and they gives me tons (not that much but still) of tips.. Good luck with your findings!! .............................ride hard.......................ride proud.............................. rclxm9.gif
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Sorry for asking noob question. Can U tell us which machanism part or engine component tht makes the 1098 emmit different exhaust tone than the TL1000R and the RSV1000mille and how does the Desmodromic work?


Added on June 16, 2010, 5:41 pm
QUOTE(kobe88 @ Dec 4 2009, 01:56 AM)
ok...for the racing block try to get a 53mm one,then bore it till 54mm(to get better performance for high cam),brand like API is quite reliable,and then the high cam,if can try to get UMA racing high cam or IKK super racing cam(also high cam as well which i`m currently using on my ex5),for the clutch plate i think go for original honda clutch plate,it`s much more better than the racing type,clutch spring if can try brand "safety" or racing bee,is kinda good hehe.at last for the exhaust...i think dun hav silent type for ex5,so far only LC135 hav.currently my ex5 using CJ ipoh bike exhaust,the idle sound is louder than the standard exhaust...so ermm...for the calculation..

1.API racing block 53mm=around rm65
2.UMA racing high cam=around rm90/IKK super racing cam=around rm 55
3.original honda clutch plate one piece(total 4 pieces)=rm15++ /original honda thai=rm30 for 4 pieces
4. racing clutch spring=rm7-10
5.CJ ipoh bike exhaust got 3 types(standard looks alike only la..so far still hav chamber type)
    1.standard looks alike=around rm75 (performance slightly better than the standard exhaust)sound kinda loud.
    2.open type no.1=(around rm95)also known as "pipe potong"which they had already did some modify inside the exhaust,also standard  looks alike but there`s a welding scars in the middle of the exhaust(with silver tag near the tip of the exhaust)not too loud,performance is quite good =)
    3.open type no.2=(which i`m using now)afterall its performance is better than those 2 which i mention above,voice is kinda loud,also "potong siap",torque from low to high is kinda good,means pick up and top speed is kinda good ^^.the price is around rm105.

for best result,u hav to mod ur carburetor as well,i`m using mikuni TS125,but there`s still a lot of choices like UMA racing,koso and etc...
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I'm kindda interested to find out more on the high cams for underbone bike, for those high cams mentioned above, could U let us know vat is the goemetry of it? R those reprofiled camshafts?

Does anyone know where can I get the non-reprofiled high cam for the Raider 150 or the FXR150?


Added on June 16, 2010, 6:00 pm
QUOTE(EyraYus @ Mar 9 2010, 07:38 PM)
owh nice. student only use 250R, then when working..1400RR?  whistling.gif

Yamaha have a fetish to set the speed meter go higher then the actual speed.

The LC is a pure example.
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Bapak beli ke Mama beli punye?

I totally agree with U on the speedometer, but do U think it's only Yamaha?

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post Jun 19 2010, 10:34 AM

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Going to get Kawasaki KLX150S nex month. I like how's the supermoto style thumbup.gif
Let say, i change the offroad to onroad tyre at the shop itself, any money involve?
I think offroad tyre is more expensive than onroad.
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post Jun 19 2010, 11:25 AM

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guys, i need a lil favor to ask from you motorcycle owners. can you find out what is written in the logbook (registration card) for the model description? i just need a few samples.

many thanks in advance
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post Jun 19 2010, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Jun 15 2010, 02:33 PM)
I wanna ask

why some ppl punye kapchai so loud one? What they modified? unsure.gif
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Just remove the silencer from the exhaust?

But whatever it is, please don't do it. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(J1@l_ l_l l\l @ Jun 16 2010, 05:08 PM)
I totally agree with U on the speedometer, but do U think it's only Yamaha?
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Aprillia Malaysia (MotoM***) technician once tell me that even Aprillia bike have around 17% percent of error in their digital meter reading.

So far, yes its only Yamaha who set their meter speed way higher then actual speed. Been riding the RXZ in school day.

Other bike that I have before, like a Shogun, KIPS, Kriss, XCite, most small CC underbone wont go over 130kmj mark. But LC rider claim that they can get 180kmj, and thats while taking corner.
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I suppose 17% U suggested is positive error right?

I believe it's not only Yamaha, I believe most of the locally manufactured motobikes r having a very high percentage error on their speedometer read-out. I had the EX5 Class and the 125Z, noticed tht both r having positive error on the speedometer but the 125Z is rediculously high and I totally agree with Ur suggestion on Yamaha, their speedometers r having positive error a way too high than the other local manufacturers.

I guess this is probably 1 kindda of their makerting strategies, assuming many hv riden their bikes and got "cheated" by the speedometer, well I'm sorry to say "cheated" here, subsequently, they will inform the other non Yamaha riders saying tht Yamaha bike is fast n thus convincing them to buy a Yamaha. Well, this is juz an assumption, I might be wrong but I was cheated by their speedometer too.

As for the LC135, I don't think it can goes faster than 130km/h in stock condition even it's riden in a so called ala-racing style. I was once driving my car at the speed of 130km/h on Pantai Timur Expressway going bec 2 K.L. n met this LC135 n was riden in ala-racing style, so I "invited" him but I later found out tht is the fastest he can goes, I would say the speed of the bike was abt 120 +-5km/h due to my car has positive speedometer error too.

Kindda curious y they called this model as "supersport" as it's only a SOHC bike with the output of lower than 15 horses even lower than the FX125 and Nova Sonic 125.


Added on June 20, 2010, 5:46 pm
QUOTE(zombie @ Jun 19 2010, 12:11 PM)
Just remove the silencer from the exhaust?

But whatever it is, please don't do it.  thumbup.gif
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I wanted to do it but mine has got no removable silencer cry.gif

Actually vat is the reason of removing the silencer frm the exhaust system instead of changing the entire exhaust system?

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Guys...which is better, shop loan or aeon credit?
Seems like shop loan i need to pay high d/p while aeon just 2k
but monthly is not really much different. except aeon can do 4years and shop only 3years max
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May I know vat is the interest rate V'r talking about?

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