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 Why Preve and Suprima became failures?

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ericangtzeann
post Mar 7 2022, 12:50 PM

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Coz the name proton 🤭
Serious note, it didn't expect preve to be that bad till my former company issued brand new preve to project staffs. Every few month can hear complains on gearbox spoil engine spoil 🤭 project over, now all become scrap
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post Mar 7 2022, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(motion_sickness @ Mar 7 2022, 11:36 AM)
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idk man i love this car. shit car but im used to it. just remember not to floor the pedals for too long your car will get overheated

might consider upgrading my cooling system
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/k semua bash. tengok2 kereta kat rumah perodua/proton je biggrin.gif
diffyhelman2
post Mar 7 2022, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(kel32 @ Mar 7 2022, 12:47 PM)
proton doesn't have the economy of scale, parts much expensive compare to Toyota/Daihatsu, even Honda
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They should just spec everything to Toyota/denso components, that way can just use 3rd party oem
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post Mar 7 2022, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(ken_hidaibuki @ Mar 7 2022, 08:11 AM)
Campro not so bad laa.. Very lasak 1. But the supporting compenant problem 1
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reliability not a problem

problem is it's underpowered
ry8128
post Mar 7 2022, 01:05 PM

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Reliability, economical to maintain. These 2 things are the most important factors in general for malaysians to own car.

And it is no coincidence that both vios and myvi strongest traits are these 2. And again, no coincidence that proton got neither.
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post Mar 7 2022, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Mar 7 2022, 01:05 PM)
Reliability, economical to maintain. These 2 things are the most important factors in general for malaysians to own car.

And it is no coincidence that both vios and myvi strongest traits are these 2. And again, no coincidence that proton got neither.
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Iswara, wira: am i joke to you?
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post Mar 7 2022, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Mar 7 2022, 12:42 PM)
No power/not the same after he no longer pm.
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u think mahaleel can sit there till 2005 if he got no influence eh?

btw

old case

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/cove...les-rm5-million

The events that led to the non-renewal of Mahaleel’s contract began when he stalled over signing a new contract offered by Proton’s board in March 2005. The board was then chaired by Datuk Mohammed Azlan Hashim. Mahaleel, a close ally of former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad was reportedly unhappy with the terms of the contract, which were viewed as unfavourable compared to the previous contracts.

It is understood that among the terms of the new contract that the Kelantan prince found unacceptable was a requirement that he keep daily notes of his work at Proton and to make these notes available to the board whenever required.

It is no secret that the board was seeking to rein in Mahaleel, who was known for making decisions for Proton without prior board approval. The Proton board subsequently decided against renewing his contract.


It is understood that the decision to settle with Mahaleel this time was influenced by Proton adviser, Mahathir, who has taken a more active role in Proton since the resignation of Azlan. A source tells The Edge that the board had initially planned on paying Mahaleel a smaller sum to settle the dispute, but this was subsequently raised to RM5 million upon the request of Mahathir.

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post Mar 7 2022, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Mar 7 2022, 01:09 PM)
Iswara, wira: am i joke to you?
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Both is not economical to maintain at all. The fuel consumption can kill u.
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post Mar 7 2022, 01:16 PM

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Look at the steering, man besar mangkuk
diffyhelman2
post Mar 7 2022, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Mar 7 2022, 01:13 PM)
Both is not economical to maintain at all. The fuel consumption can kill u.
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luckily petrol is cheap here*

an ok ok la, how much fuel does 1.3L consume, even with lousy fc? its those 2.0L and turbo cars that really have high wallet busting FC for average malaysian.

*: compared to other parts of the world, even our neighbours



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post Mar 7 2022, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Mar 7 2022, 12:41 PM)
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Conti-like maintenance
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so detailed. gooding

whatever happened to the fuel tank and the seat?
Platinum Sand
post Mar 7 2022, 01:22 PM

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Second hand Kasi free pun don't wan. Canot go tis 2 car.
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post Mar 7 2022, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(ledtechn @ Mar 7 2022, 09:08 AM)
Best part is, cannot find a better material to replace the hose permanently. Maybe engine oil inside there running at 5000psi, no suitable material can sustain it.
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Was wondering if other turbo cars such as honda soft turbos (crv, civic, etc) got similar OCH bocor problem?
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post Mar 7 2022, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Mar 7 2022, 01:19 PM)
so detailed. gooding

whatever happened to the fuel tank and the seat?
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Spotted a very2 small leak on the fuel tank, not sure how it happen, probably kena something on the road

The driver seat besi inside crack or something i cant remember already
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post Mar 7 2022, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Mar 7 2022, 11:04 AM)
no more ; but peugeot will have power windows issue

my 508 last weekend just "dropped" my passenger side ..again

photo  laugh.gif  that side drop 2nd time already ..direct lock die sudah
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Heh we go to same shop.
Always visit this place whenever my wife pijot 206 koyak.
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post Mar 7 2022, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(UnknownH @ Mar 7 2022, 11:58 AM)
If only there were the turbo engine with 6MT hnggghhh!!
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Proton sked not muc buyers for that.
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post Mar 7 2022, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Mar 7 2022, 01:25 PM)
Spotted a very2 small leak on the fuel tank, not sure how it happen, probably kena something on the road

The driver seat besi inside crack or something i cant remember already
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goodness! that is damn dangerous man

so u change seat or fix it?
ken_hidaibuki
post Mar 7 2022, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(amir.asyraf @ Mar 7 2022, 01:05 PM)
reliability not a problem

problem is it's underpowered
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Punch cvt
diffyhelman2
post Mar 7 2022, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Mar 7 2022, 01:26 PM)
Proton sked not muc buyers for that.
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and they would be correct. car magazines and youtube channels love to focus on all the sporty models, but the bread and butter segment for car makers here are A and B segment econoboxes.
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Mar 7 2022, 11:04 AM)
no more ; but peugeot will have power windows issue

my 508 last weekend just "dropped" my passenger side ..again

photo  laugh.gif  that side drop 2nd time already ..direct lock die sudah
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last time my old udm also faced the same problem

change the whole set . oem.

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