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 Why Preve and Suprima became failures?

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JimbeamofNRT
post Mar 7 2022, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(motion_sickness @ Mar 7 2022, 11:36 AM)
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idk man i love this car. shit car but im used to it. just remember not to floor the pedals for too long your car will get overheated

might consider upgrading my cooling system
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post Mar 7 2022, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(frossonice @ Mar 7 2022, 11:47 AM)
Why would Italdesign design Ferrari? You are mistaken it with Pininfarina that designed Ferrari a lot. Azlan was sent to Italdesign to give input from Proton perspective.

Never a fan of any of Azlan designs and his view on car design also doesn't excite me. That was why we keep getting tall kontot car with huge aquarium windows and windshields. Even Exora suffered from this even thought they based the design on Toyota Wish.
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summore when you have syiok sendiri ceo

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post Mar 7 2022, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Mar 7 2022, 12:17 PM)
also gave his son proton money to waste on 'sport' division
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R3 IMHO is just another wasted opportunity. really syiok sendiri project

should have market the products to the masses, but even when you go to their HQ also, the CS is kinda blur and simply said no stock.


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post Mar 7 2022, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(frossonice @ Mar 7 2022, 12:01 PM)
I heard that too. But I used to read Azlan's blog long time ago how a few of his office mate and him own Toyota Wish and they do a lot of comparison with it. Iirc, they even use one as test mule.
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how about Saharudin Busri ?
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post Mar 7 2022, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(motion_sickness @ Mar 7 2022, 12:28 PM)
but really its a fun car to drive (as long you dont cheapskate on maintenance) . looks friendly but can bite the road

till today im still wondering why so much hate for suprima. its not perfect but it does what it does, so far i had no big issue, yet
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I have driven waja, preve , saga blm and saga vvt for a short time. and yes the handling is good ( comparing to other local cars like perodua , which is basically a sampan on the road ) .

my favorite weekend route would be kuala pilah - kuala klawang- seremban as well as Federal Route 59 tapah-cameron

but refinement is just not there. you will find some odd things about the car. like saga vvt. why cant the bonnet have latch from the outside? yes they have fix it on the new saga 4at. but those kind of odd things is quite a turn off.

and they never make a good seat materials, in this particular section perodua have better one ( except for axia and bezza, whoever design that uncomfortable seats should be sacked )

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post Mar 7 2022, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Mar 7 2022, 12:34 PM)
Hmmm. Coincidentally at the time waja tiara juara and some other crap models were introduced at that time that really started driving proton reputation down the drain. Before that at least iswara and wira still had Mitsubishi reliability. Maybe after mamak retired 1.0, everyone started to slack off without supervision?
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mahathir was still indirectly involved when he stepped down in 2002 as advisors/chairman till 2016

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post Mar 7 2022, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Mar 7 2022, 12:42 PM)
No power/not the same after he no longer pm.
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Yarrite

u think mahaleel can sit there till 2005 if he got no influence eh?

btw

old case

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/cove...les-rm5-million

The events that led to the non-renewal of Mahaleel’s contract began when he stalled over signing a new contract offered by Proton’s board in March 2005. The board was then chaired by Datuk Mohammed Azlan Hashim. Mahaleel, a close ally of former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad was reportedly unhappy with the terms of the contract, which were viewed as unfavourable compared to the previous contracts.

It is understood that among the terms of the new contract that the Kelantan prince found unacceptable was a requirement that he keep daily notes of his work at Proton and to make these notes available to the board whenever required.

It is no secret that the board was seeking to rein in Mahaleel, who was known for making decisions for Proton without prior board approval. The Proton board subsequently decided against renewing his contract.


It is understood that the decision to settle with Mahaleel this time was influenced by Proton adviser, Mahathir, who has taken a more active role in Proton since the resignation of Azlan. A source tells The Edge that the board had initially planned on paying Mahaleel a smaller sum to settle the dispute, but this was subsequently raised to RM5 million upon the request of Mahathir.

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post Mar 7 2022, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Mar 7 2022, 12:41 PM)
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Conti-like maintenance
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so detailed. gooding

whatever happened to the fuel tank and the seat?
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post Mar 7 2022, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Mar 7 2022, 01:25 PM)
Spotted a very2 small leak on the fuel tank, not sure how it happen, probably kena something on the road

The driver seat besi inside crack or something i cant remember already
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goodness! that is damn dangerous man

so u change seat or fix it?
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post Mar 7 2022, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Mar 7 2022, 11:04 AM)
no more ; but peugeot will have power windows issue

my 508 last weekend just "dropped" my passenger side ..again

photo  laugh.gif  that side drop 2nd time already ..direct lock die sudah
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last time my old udm also faced the same problem

change the whole set . oem.
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post Mar 7 2022, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Mar 7 2022, 01:35 PM)
ya lor  laugh.gif
can try to find if there is any DIY kit instead of changing whole
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the oem power window regulator cost me around rm100 sahaja lah


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post Mar 7 2022, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(ihavenoidea @ Mar 7 2022, 03:02 PM)
saga blm early model got 1 spec that dont have side signal light. How did it ever made to production and sold to market also dont know.
Magic kot.
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that would be the first batch

2008

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post Mar 7 2022, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Mar 7 2022, 01:34 PM)
Not dangerous la, just uncomfortable to seat in only

Went to a seat cushion repair shop to let them fix. But still not 100% have to change the seat all together..
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surprisingly the iriz and new persona got better seats, way better than current myvi and ativa seats
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post Mar 7 2022, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Mar 7 2022, 04:16 PM)
Waja got problem where the outside door handle are such thin plastic they snapped off. Personal experience. But the engine is smooth n no vibration, my waja was still the 4g18 Mitsubishi engine.
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same thing with cr-z


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post Mar 7 2022, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Mar 7 2022, 06:51 PM)
All the Preve I have come across in Grab car has a very bad wear on the fabric seats. Alot of bulu from worn fabric and broken auto gear knob. Not all Proton has this issue. At least not on my Inspira.
I hardly see any Suprima around.
For the looks, Preve is okay.  Suprima share the same front as Preve, but the rear is ugly as heck. Same problem like the Savvy in the past.
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the quality of the fabric is like really meh... same thing goes to saga blm/fl/even the current vvt


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post Mar 8 2022, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(homerthewhopper @ Mar 8 2022, 07:44 AM)
Before geely takeover proton saga 2016 has uneven color for the plastics inside. Door and dashboard different colors dont March. Don't know how this was approved.
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and the paint quality is like... meh. damn thin I tell you.

comparing to perodua which have better paint quality. in this matter Perodua quality is way better than proton.
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post Mar 8 2022, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(mohdkakarot @ Mar 8 2022, 07:59 AM)
Still have 2012 Preve

- 207 000+ KM
- Every 1 1/2 year change bulb
- still original punch cvt, no problem yet
- 1 time towing due to OCH pecah
- 1 time change radiator fan
- Full tank reach about 400KM 100% in KL
- top speed still can reach 210 kmh

No major problem for a 10 year old car. I am happy with it

Preve failed because proton let it die. Only did a very minor update after 5-6 years.
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