Its geely who is managing proton la. and they screw up proton brands because their intention is just to sell geely car. normal for all china brands - sell first so cheap later if broken throw away buy new ones. same like oppo vivo all. While Sony, Honda Toyota take care of customer, merc and bwm even help you wash after you pangsai, lolls loyce hire amoi tou wash your pangsai
you mean their intention should be , to groom local talent to be able to design world class car?
an ok ok la, how much fuel does 1.3L consume, even with lousy fc? its those 2.0L and turbo cars that really have high wallet busting FC for average malaysian.
*: compared to other parts of the world, even our neighbours Sorry to derail, but Asianometry just released a video on Thailand auto sector, the 3rd largest in Asia and largest in SEA. looking at the comments, some of them seem eerily familar....
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I was an advisor to the ministry of defense in Thailand in 2005. This is what I know. Thailand has long been under royal hierarchy and military control for over 200 years. All rules and the public are regulated by inexperienced politicians and their peers. Most senators bribe the way to a position that costs 100 million-plus per person. Same as the police promotion to a higher rank. Money will get what you want. Murder walks away if the price is right, just like the case of billionaire Red Bull energy drink. The state staffs of 99% are Thai but the private sectors are mostly the Chinese like corporate CP, media, bankers, and many FDI who employed unskilled Thais farmers for cheap labor all over the country. Thai police also operate sex clubs, drug trade, casinos, money laundering, etc. Thai politicians, police, soldiers, and CEOs are very corrupt. The god family, high-rank military make money from bribery of Japanese, Chinese-owned companies and FDI. Corruption is rampant, from low-rank police to high-rank soldiers, staff of all sectors and all levels. Thai people accepted corruption as the way of life. The royal and their peer are multi-billionaires and enjoy the high-level society. A bottle of wine costs $3,500 they enjoy during the deal-making. That is just a peanut. All the P.M. and cabinet are corrupted, never concerned for millions of poverty. The intention always uses people as cheap slave labor for Japanese, Chinese, and FDI corporations. That is why IT and self make auto never happen. Not only automobiles but also agriculture. Rubber and rice export were world number one. Thai prefer to export raw rubber instead of tires or shoes. Only low-quality technical schools in BKK but worth nothing. They are not stupid, but ignorant. With corrupt leaders under mafia politicians, polices, and soldiers, Thailand is going downhill. Women become hookers from the school campus to office workers. Approx 1 million sex workers, but this is a low number. More women looking for white trash men to support them since the VN war. Sex tourist proliferating as world number one. Low-life tourists and criminals are here for sex, prone, drug trade, and long-stay. Thai gov't issue a new policy for the rich tourist to make more profit for themselves. The future is unclear. Thai is whitewashed culture against China and a poor nation. Poor education and arrogant attitude take them nowhere to hell. Only food and sex industries may survive, but just get by with low quality. It is a pity Thailand has the advantage of natural resources and location, but not human resources. S.E. Asia has the same sick symptom. ASEAN gets better because China trades BRI, not themselves. Only Singapore up to the standard the less remains the sick old snail nations. I suggest you do more videos about the real ASEAN, it is getting rich but only for a few. The US is coming this way for more war and dollars. Your research is excellent and 100% correct. Another piece of excellent quality, you are what you do. The Philippines is like Thai but better with Duterte. Can you do research on PH?
no wonder they still poor.
even the 'enlightened guy' still harping on China CHinese China Chinese.
what if i told you that corruption is not the problem?
Chinese is not the problem?
how can the people survive when 1 person own so much?
I have driven waja, preve , saga blm and saga vvt for a short time. and yes the handling is good ( comparing to other local cars like perodua , which is basically a sampan on the road ) .
my favorite weekend route would be kuala pilah - kuala klawang- seremban as well as Federal Route 59 tapah-cameron
but refinement is just not there. you will find some odd things about the car. like saga vvt. why cant the bonnet have latch from the outside? yes they have fix it on the new saga 4at. but those kind of odd things is quite a turn off.
and they never make a good seat materials, in this particular section perodua have better one ( except for axia and bezza, whoever design that uncomfortable seats should be sacked )
saga blm early model got 1 spec that dont have side signal light. How did it ever made to production and sold to market also dont know. Magic kot.
Preve is the first Malaysian Conti in terms of maintenance , its a kindergarden for future contis owner of the real conti like BMW & Audi
used Preve CFE owns by office, together with old Waja CPS, both auto. TBH, waja gb even with old 4 gear drove much better than punch cvt, especially the start-stop situation and during full throttle, the CVT drowning sound kinda hard to accept. Both had FC poor to average vs another car with a similar range of HP/Torque.
Quality issue are same in both cars, Waja with power window things, some button on radio malfunction etc, good things are the HID Standard on cps, but still not bright enough, maybe H1 Bulbs size is not ok for the headlamp.
Preve on another hand had the radiator fan malfunction, triggered overheating alarm at a traffic light, 3 times cant switch off the engine (maybe the starter issues), numerous bulb burns for the halogen, and one-time cant switch off the main headlight after turn off the engine. These things make me wonder if Proton actually test it properly during the car design phase?
used Preve CFE owns by office, together with old Waja CPS, both auto. TBH, waja gb even with old 4 gear drove much better than punch cvt, especially the start-stop situation and during full throttle, the CVT drowning sound kinda hard to accept. Both had FC poor to average vs another car with a similar range of HP/Torque.
Quality issue are same in both cars, Waja with power window things, some button on radio malfunction etc, good things are the HID Standard on cps, but still not bright enough, maybe H1 Bulbs size is not ok for the headlamp.
Preve on another hand had the radiator fan malfunction, triggered overheating alarm at a traffic light, 3 times cant switch off the engine (maybe the starter issues), numerous bulb burns for the halogen, and one-time cant switch off the main headlight after turn off the engine. These things make me wonder if Proton actually test it properly during the car design phase?
Waja got problem where the outside door handle are such thin plastic they snapped off. Personal experience. But the engine is smooth n no vibration, my waja was still the 4g18 Mitsubishi engine.
used Preve CFE owns by office, together with old Waja CPS, both auto. TBH, waja gb even with old 4 gear drove much better than punch cvt, especially the start-stop situation and during full throttle, the CVT drowning sound kinda hard to accept. Both had FC poor to average vs another car with a similar range of HP/Torque.
Quality issue are same in both cars, Waja with power window things, some button on radio malfunction etc, good things are the HID Standard on cps, but still not bright enough, maybe H1 Bulbs size is not ok for the headlamp.
Preve on another hand had the radiator fan malfunction, triggered overheating alarm at a traffic light, 3 times cant switch off the engine (maybe the starter issues), numerous bulb burns for the halogen, and one-time cant switch off the main headlight after turn off the engine. These things make me wonder if Proton actually test it properly during the car design phase?
same issue with saga and persona. the radiator fan relay too hot until it melted its base.
used Preve CFE owns by office, together with old Waja CPS, both auto. TBH, waja gb even with old 4 gear drove much better than punch cvt, especially the start-stop situation and during full throttle, the CVT drowning sound kinda hard to accept. Both had FC poor to average vs another car with a similar range of HP/Torque.
Quality issue are same in both cars, Waja with power window things, some button on radio malfunction etc, good things are the HID Standard on cps, but still not bright enough, maybe H1 Bulbs size is not ok for the headlamp.
Preve on another hand had the radiator fan malfunction, triggered overheating alarm at a traffic light, 3 times cant switch off the engine (maybe the starter issues), numerous bulb burns for the halogen, and one-time cant switch off the main headlight after turn off the engine. These things make me wonder if Proton actually test it properly during the car design phase?
Preve is best matched with a turbo engine with manual transmission
Heavy car I like , FC no issue with me cause I like its Lotus handling with its cheap value nowadays, parts easy to source , only main issue is the OCH which some experts already overcome it with stainless mod
Anyone who wanted to sell his MT Preve can PM me , best is if come with a 4G1x engine endorsed too
Proton now fail delivery and basic spare part support for short LT.. They need to improve their aftermarket support, i believe due to good sales they put all the parts to new car assembly but neglected the on-going units..
BTW X50 in China really fail, the newer units already ditch the 3-cylinder 1.5T turbo changing back to 4-cylinder due to poor sales & feedback of China consumers..
Preve is best matched with a turbo engine with manual transmission
Heavy car I like , FC no issue with me cause I like its Lotus handling with its cheap value nowadays, parts easy to source , only main issue is the OCH which some experts already overcome it with stainless mod
Anyone who wanted to sell his MT Preve can PM me , best is if come with a 4G1x engine endorsed too
steel hose really can fix the problem ke? whats the different from using rubber hose like stock proton?
steel hose really can fix the problem ke? whats the different from using rubber hose like stock proton?
bcuz high pressure+hot oil flow thru the rubber hose, it will crack after some time (3yrs or 40k mileage, Proton estimation, I recall previously is 50k or 60k) steel hose wont have this issue
Proton now fail delivery and basic spare part support for short LT.. They need to improve their aftermarket support, i believe due to good sales they put all the parts to new car assembly but neglected the on-going units..
BTW X50 in China really fail, the newer units already ditch the 3-cylinder 1.5T turbo changing back to 4-cylinder due to poor sales & feedback of China consumers..
how does that indicate fail?
inbe4 use same engine forever means success.
inbe4 BMW , Merc, Perodua 3cylinder Turbo all very successful
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