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 Why Preve and Suprima became failures?

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SUSMaybachS600
post Mar 7 2022, 08:04 AM, updated 4y ago

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2011 Tuah by Italdesign Guigiarro. First proper Proton design with an Internationally acclaimmed design company.

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Preve.

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Proton's greatest car design and effort. Seriously, Why the the car was a flop? Is this because the Civic, Altis or even Elantra sold at the time? Is this because Malaysians still thinking Hatchback design are useless? Released in a wrong time?

Suprima had the potential to sold in Europe countries, it had a good Euro design, but failed to do so.
So sad, money being wasted by Proton.😢😢😢

What do you guys think?
Discuss.

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post Mar 7 2022, 08:06 AM

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Because of engine
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post Mar 7 2022, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Mar 7 2022, 08:04 AM)
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2011 Tuah by Italdesign Guigiarro. First proper Proton design with an Internationally acclaimmed design company.

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Preve.

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Inspired from this?:
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Proton's greatest car design and effort. Seriously, Why the the car was a flop? Is this because the Civic, Altis or even Elantra sold at the time? Is this because Malaysians still thinking Hatchback design are useless? Released in a wrong time?

Suprima had the potential to sold in Europe countries, it had a good Euro design, but failed to do so.
So sad, money being wasted by Proton.😢😢😢

What do guys think?
Discuss.
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Orang sudah design cantik cantik sampai management potong sana pm cut sini kroni situ. Patut pakai 4at or 5 at untuk kereta tu bagi pakai cvt. End up user expirience kelong.
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post Mar 7 2022, 08:07 AM

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Suprima got turbo oil leak or dunno wat
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post Mar 7 2022, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Mar 7 2022, 08:04 AM)


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post Mar 7 2022, 08:09 AM

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If you notice.
Many supima or preve I see on the road have one side headlamp bulb failure
One side sure have bulb burnt.


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post Mar 7 2022, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Mar 7 2022, 08:04 AM)
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2011 Tuah by Italdesign Guigiarro. First proper Proton design with an Internationally acclaimmed design company.

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Preve.

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Inspired from this?:
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Proton's greatest car design and effort. Seriously, Why the the car was a flop? Is this because the Civic, Altis or even Elantra sold at the time? Is this because Malaysians still thinking Hatchback design are useless? Released in a wrong time?

Suprima had the potential to sold in Europe countries, it had a good Euro design, but failed to do so.
So sad, money being wasted by Proton.😢😢😢

What do you guys think?
Discuss.
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Because in 2011 and 2013, the company Proton was still run by oren kito kroni.

Any turnaround happened after control was relinquished to Geely.

Truth hurts, doesn't it.
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post Mar 7 2022, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(ken_hidaibuki @ Mar 7 2022, 08:06 AM)
Orang sudah design cantik cantik sampai management potong sana pm cut sini kroni situ. Patut pakai 4at or 5 at untuk kereta tu bagi pakai cvt. End up user expirience kelong.
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Proton and it's Mama-Macha crony story is inseperable.🤣🤣🤣
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post Mar 7 2022, 08:11 AM

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The rear of both cars just farking ugly.

The original Tuah was nice. Who's the idiot that fark it up???
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post Mar 7 2022, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Mar 7 2022, 08:08 AM)
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Campro not so bad laa.. Very lasak 1. But the supporting compenant problem 1
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post Mar 7 2022, 08:11 AM

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due to lousy punch cvt
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post Mar 7 2022, 08:12 AM

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Engine lama makan minyak,
punch cvt macam pkmak.

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post Mar 7 2022, 08:12 AM

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Good chassis
Extremely underpowered engine

They try to remedy it with the turbocharger but decided to pair with fragile CVT gearbox instead

And like all new things proton first batch = labrat version

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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Mar 7 2022, 08:10 AM)
Proton and it's Mama-Macha crony story is inseperable.🤣🤣🤣
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Betul lah tu. Mamadey crony makan tak mau sikit. Mau banyak makan
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post Mar 7 2022, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(c64 @ Mar 7 2022, 08:11 AM)
The rear of both cars just farking ugly.

The original Tuah was nice. Who's the idiot that fark it up???
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I think, this fella and his ultra sohai team :
Azlan Othman, Proton's Head of Styling was dispatched to Turin under the collaboration with Italdesign which lasted almost a year.

If this dude is ultra talented why Italdesign does not keep him for a lifetime? Asking him to design Ferraris?

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post Mar 7 2022, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Mar 7 2022, 08:12 AM)
Good chassis
Extremely underpowered engine

They try to remedy it with the turbocharger but decided to pair with fragile CVT gearbox instead

And like all new things proton first batch = labrat version
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Yes.

Proton's main problem:
1. Engine
2. Punch CVT
3. Farking ugly design
4. Cronies.

With Geely, all the above problems solved.
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post Mar 7 2022, 08:15 AM

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Just look at that hideous steering, just look at that
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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Mar 7 2022, 08:13 AM)
I think, this fella and his ultra sohai team :
Azlan Othman, Proton's Head of Styling was dispatched to Turin under the collaboration with Italdesign which lasted almost a year.
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Spent money to hire Angmoh made nice car, then sendiri pandai pandai change it back to fugly monster.

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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Mar 7 2022, 08:04 AM)
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2011 Tuah by Italdesign Guigiarro. First proper Proton design with an Internationally acclaimmed design company.

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Preve.

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Inspired from this?:
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Proton's greatest car design and effort. Seriously, Why the the car was a flop? Is this because the Civic, Altis or even Elantra sold at the time? Is this because Malaysians still thinking Hatchback design are useless? Released in a wrong time?

Suprima had the potential to sold in Europe countries, it had a good Euro design, but failed to do so.
So sad, money being wasted by Proton.😢😢😢

What do you guys think?
Discuss.
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Time to market, underperforming engine, and some bad design choices ( missing glove box). Proton didn't do their market research properly as well. No matter how good your engineers if the folks at marketing give shit requirements, you are just throwing good money after bad.

I might want to add that if the Preve had come out in its final mature form instead of Gen2 when it was launched, the story of Proton might have been different.



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2014 city launched from 76k, preve 73k..

now go mudah search 2014 city price, can buy 2x 2014 preve..



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